[hserus]

ILSAC GF4/4a oils. You can buy any 0w20 ILSAC GF5 as well that suits your budget.

Originally Posted by karthik1996

Hello all,

I posted about this in the Nexon thread as well, but this seems to be a more relevant thread,
For BS6 Nexon Petrol Engine, i know tata Recommends 0W20 Fully Synthetic Oil, and the recommended brands are GTX T 0W20, Mobil Super 3000 TM 0W20 and PETRONAS Syntium 7000 TM 0W20.
Since I am not aware of other specifications does any one know if we can use -
1- Shell Helix HX8 Az 0W20
2 - Shell Helix Ultra SN 0W-20

or would it cause any issues?

[kspv]

Recommended engine oil for Tata Harrier BSIV (138 BHP) is 5W-30. Recommended oil for Tata Harrier BSVI (170 BHP) is 0W-20. Recommended oil for Jeep Compass BSIV (170 BHP) is 0W-20. It remains the same for Jeep Compass BSVI as well. The recommended oil for MG Hector and MG Hector Plus diesel (both 141 BHP & 170 BHP versions) is again 5W-30.

In all these cases, the Fiat sourced engine is the same, and is in different states of tuning. Then why is the recommended engine oil different?

[Sandeep500]

The recommended engine oil for Jeep Compass BS4 diesel is 5W30 . For BS6 it is 0W20.

[kspv]

I know of at least one workshop in Hyderabad which puts Ciifrol Euro Gold 15W-40 mineral oil in all cars coming for routine servicing, diesel as well as petrol. The label on the drum from which they were pouring claimed that it was a heavy duty diesel engine oil meant for tractors, trucks and buses. The specification given was API CI-4 / CH-4. Probably made by a company in Haryana.

They are doing this even in case of vehicles requiring 0W-20 or 5W-30 as per user manual. The mechanic claimed this was some kind of ‘super’ engine oil that they prefer to put in Mercedes cars as well. My insistence upon a 5W-30 fully synthetic engine oil actually angered the service-centre management.

Was remembering the auto drivers in Hyderabad who would use coconut oil as lubricant!

[batish]

Which engine oil would be better in our climatic conditions? 5w-30 or 15w-40? Car here is Fluidic Verna Diesel 1.6.

Have been using 5W-30 all these years, it is preferable to switch now? I'm asking since ambient temperatures in summers rise to 45-46º.

Which brand is recommended?

[hserus]

Originally Posted by batish

Which engine oil would be better in our climatic conditions? 5w-30 or 15w-40? Car here is Fluidic Verna Diesel 1.6.

Have been using 5W-30 all these years, it is preferable to switch now? I'm asking since ambient temperatures in summers rise to 45-46º.

Which brand is recommended?

A good 5w30 such as shell hx8 or Mobil super 3000 works just fine for Indian summers.

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by batish

Have been using 5W-30 all these years, it is preferable to switch now? I'm asking since ambient temperatures in summers rise to 45-46º.

Which brand is recommended?

It all depends on how you intend to drive in this summer. If you drive fully loaded or fulfill other conditions which are called extreme conditions, then I would suggest 5w40. Otherwise 5w30 from a good brand is sufficient.

[batish]

Originally Posted by hserus

A good 5w30 such as shell hx8 or Mobil super 3000 works just fine for Indian summers.

Thank you sir for your reply. While researching I found Mobil Super 3000 is not compatible with Diesel engines. It could be good for petrol ones.



This one is from their official site. It says it is okay with API CF Specification whereas official manual of Verna says it needs atleast CH-4. I don’t think it would be okay to use this one.



Here is the API List which I referred.

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by batish

This one is from their official site. It says it is okay with API CF Specification whereas official manual of Verna says it needs atleast CH-4. I don’t think it would be okay to use this one.

If you are looking for CH4 grade, which I experiment a lot in my car, Servo Pride 15w40 or Mobil Delvac 15w40 are my favorite pure mineral oils.

[hserus]

Look at the acea specification instead. A5/B5 which means suitable for light duty petrol and diesel engines.

When Endeavour and Fortuner run on manufacturer recommended 5w30 you can safely use it in a Verna

Originally Posted by batish

Thank you sir for your reply. While researching I found Mobil Super 3000 is not compatible with Diesel engines. It could be good for petrol ones.

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This one is from their official site. It says it is okay with API CF Specification whereas official manual of Verna says it needs atleast CH-4. I don’t think it would be okay to use this one.

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Here is the API List which I referred.

[maheep007]

Originally Posted by hserus

Look at the acea specification instead. A5/B5 which means suitable for light duty petrol and diesel engines.

When Endeavour and Fortuner run on manufacturer recommended 5w30 you can safely use it in a Verna

Want to switch from stock 0w20 ( to my limited knowledge that's the grade of stock oil) for new 2022 diesel Thar ( Mhawk 2.2 ) to 5w40 FS but in India so far other than Amsoil no other company has it, Amsoil is ck4 rated ACEA E6/9 and priced about 3k for a gallon. Expensive but as of now no other option. Only other bs6 compatible is Castrol magnetic ACEA c3 rating but SP rated, so probably not purely diesel oil in my understanding. Maybe not pure synthetic too. Any recommendations? Asking since I read the thread and feel you have quite lot of knowledge on engine oils, thank you & regards.
Also, would 5w40 be an over kill and 5w30 be better?

[hserus]

Careful - many of the 5w30 oils are not rated ACEA C* which will be needed for DPF fitted BS6 cars.

If you do want a 5w30 that fits this spec get Castrol Edge 5w30 or 5w40 which are even costlier than Amsoil.

Right now the Mahindra BS6 oil is a closed book for me .. I know their standard green Feo for older cars is a regular 5w30 A5/B5, and the Feo v2 is 0w20 C2.

They have a new Feo beyond that for BS6 right? I have no idea of its spec but probably a C3 or C5 0w20 oil. In any case it is an excellent and long wearing oil, and CHEAP, plus easy to find. Go ahead and use it, it is not going to hurt the Mahindra engine of all engines.

Having owned the older BS4 scorpio and put a lakh km on it, I swung right back to Feo eventually after trying out all sorts of expensive oils (indeed, I think I'm the first on TBHP to become a huge amsoil fan, and my friends still joke about that .. and I moved back to Feo there, and these days Shell 5w30 on my BS4 Endeavour).

Fancier and more expensive oils are about worth it if you put more than 10k km a year on your car - I go upto 30-35k km a year. If you don't, then use the minimum recommended spec and change annually.

Originally Posted by maheep007

Want to switch from stock 0w20 ( to my limited knowledge that's the grade of stock oil) for new 2022 diesel Thar ( Mhawk 2.2 ) to 5w40 FS but in India so far other than Amsoil no other company has it, Amsoil is ck4 rated ACEA E6/9 and priced about 3k for a gallon. Expensive but as of now no other option. Only other bs6 compatible is Castrol magnetic ACEA c3 rating but SP rated, so probably not purely diesel oil in my understanding. Maybe not pure synthetic too. Any recommendations? Asking since I read the thread and feel you have quite lot of knowledge on engine oils, thank you & regards.
Also, would 5w40 be an over kill and 5w30 be better?

[maheep007]

Originally Posted by hserus

Careful - many of the 5w30 oils are not rated ACEA C* which will be needed for DPF fitted BS6 cars.

If you do want a 5w30 that fits this spec get Castrol Edge 5w30 or 5w40 which are even costlier than Amsoil.

Right now the Mahindra BS6 oil is a closed book for me .. I know their standard green Feo for older cars is a regular 5w30 A5/B5, and the Feo v2 is 0w20 C2.

They have a new Feo beyond that for BS6 right? I have no idea of its spec but probably a C3 or C5 0w20 oil. In any case it is an excellent and long wearing oil, and CHEAP, plus easy to find. Go ahead and use it, it is not going to hurt the Mahindra engine of all engines.

Having owned the older BS4 scorpio and put a lakh km on it, I swung right back to Feo eventually after trying out all sorts of expensive oils (indeed, I think I'm the first on TBHP to become a huge amsoil fan, and my friends still joke about that .. and I moved back to Feo there, and these days Shell 5w30 on my BS4 Endeavour).

Fancier and more expensive oils are about worth it if you put more than 10k km a year on your car - I go upto 30-35k km a year. If you don't, then use the minimum recommended spec and change annually.

Yes, found only Castrol magnetic to be ACEA c3 for bs6 engines, no other brand has that rating compatible for DPF. That's why my stuck between Castrol and amsoil, amsoil being ck4 however is more of a pure diesel synthetic oil, costs more than Castrol magnetic which as I mentioned is SP rated not ck4. Stock shell I feel is too thin @ 0w20, and fuel economy is purely the reason for using it, in our tropical country I feel 5w30 or better yet 5w40 might be more suitable at the cost of a drop in fuel economy. Your thoughts on it.
Final tie is between Castrol magnetic 5w40 SP ACEA c3 and Amsoil 5w40 ck4 ACEA E6 Or E9 I'm. Not sure.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by maheep007

Stock shell I feel is too thin @ 0w20, and fuel economy is purely the reason for using it, in our tropical country I feel 5w30 or better yet 5w40 might be more suitable at the cost of a drop in fuel economy. Your thoughts on it.
Final tie is between Castrol magnetic 5w40 SP ACEA c3 and Amsoil 5w40 ck4 ACEA E6 Or E9 I'm. Not sure.

0w20 oils are used in trucks that operate even in the American deserts like in Arizona / Texas. For modern engines they are often the right choice compared to a more viscous oil.

If you want to burn money on it, try Castrol Edge 5w30 ACEA C3 then.

[maheep007]

Originally Posted by hserus

0w20 oils are used in trucks that operate even in the American deserts like in Arizona / Texas. For modern engines they are often the right choice compared to a more viscous oil.

If you want to burn money on it, try Castrol Edge 5w30 ACEA C3 then.

Main concern is, would it be safe or rather better to use 5w40 than 0w20. Would it be an upgrade or do more harm than good.