[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by hserus

The mobil super 3000 is indeed the only oil in the open market that meets this Ford standard. There is another from Shell but that is only sold to Ford dealers.

The amsoil a5b5 5w30 should be an excellent oil

The reason I was asking is because I used to change oil at 5,000kms without fail on my Ecosport TDCI diesel. I figured I could stretch to 10K kms with the Amsoil.

I somehow just don't like how the car feels after 7-8K kms with any oil including the Amsoil so thinking of going back to 5K kms oil change but lesser priced oil.

Spending 4K on an oil change every 5-6 months worked out pretty expensive.

Was thinking if I can get the Mobil super3000 and change at 5,000kms for lesser cost than one oil change of the Amsoil.

[diogo]

Originally Posted by hserus

The mobil super 3000 is indeed the only oil in the open market that meets this Ford standard. There is another from Shell but that is only sold to Ford dealers.

The amsoil a5b5 5w30 should be an excellent oil

Will this be a good option for the scross 1.3? I am at 15K and want to try a fully synthetic now for the in between 5Kand then do a change at 20K, probably Amsoil, when service is due.

[scorpian]

Originally Posted by Tassem

So, under normal running conditions both 5W40 and 15W40 will perform the same - like a 40 weight oil.

Ok so considering that temperature remains unchanged can 5w40 and 15w40 offer similar protection?
My main reason for asking is i use 5w40 and i prefer replacing every 6to max 7k kms, i somehow dont like how the engine feels post this range of kms, so can i for example shift from delvac 5w40 to 15w40 due to cost factor?

If i shift to delvac 15w40 i can replace every 5k kms and its not that expensive as well.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by diogo

Will this be a good option for the scross 1.3? I am at 15K and want to try a fully synthetic now for the in between 5Kand then do a change at 20K, probably Amsoil, when service is due.

(3.2 Litre SAE 5W-30 for S Cross DDIS 200, 5.25 Litre SAE OW-30 Engine Oil for S Cross DDIS 320)

Stick to whatever oil grade is specified for your car. If Amsoil has what you need, it is a good choice.

Originally Posted by scorpian

If i shift to delvac 15w40 i can replace every 5k kms and its not that expensive as well.

Don't use random oil grades even if they are equivalent at higher temperatures. Please stick to what oil grade your manual recommends.

[drpullockaran]

Originally Posted by scorpian

Ok so considering that temperature remains unchanged can 5w40 and 15w40 offer similar protection?
My main reason for asking is i use 5w40 and i prefer replacing every 6to max 7k kms, i somehow dont like how the engine feels post this range of kms, so can i for example shift from delvac 5w40 to 15w40 due to cost factor?

If i shift to delvac 15w40 i can replace every 5k kms and its not that expensive as well.

The 5W40 you are referring to would be semi-synthetic or fully synthetic but the 15W40 would in all probability be mineral or semi-synthetic at best. Find out if your car needs synthetic, semi-synthetic or if straight mineral will do. If engine does not require synthetics then using 15W40 during summer months or tropical climates where the temperature does not drop below 20 degrees centigrade is all fine. If temps drop below 20 degrees then the lower number before the "W" should be adhered to religiously.

Synthetics and semi synthetics offer you longer drain intervals and pure synthetics offer you the best protection especially over long drain intervals.

Having said that I have used the cheapest 15W40 from Indian oil for the Chevrolet Cruze on more than one occasion but have consciously reduced the drain interval to 7500km instead of 15000km and have not faced any issues with the car for the past 1,83,000km. The only parts changed are the front MacPherson struts and lower control arms and stabilizer links. Everything else by way of engine parts, including the turbo, are stock except the drive belts and pulleys. Even the clutch assembly is stock.

My suggestion is to go with the costliest 5W40 diesel engine oil from Motul that you can afford which is what I have found to be the best to silence the engine for the Cruze. In the kilometers I have driven you must have gathered by now that I have tried very many oils. ACEA specifications are what I have stuck by and not the API standards.


Motul engine oil in the Datsun GO makes the engine buttery smooth.
https://www.motul.com/in/en/products/8100-x-cess-5w40

Do remember that you will have to reduce the drain interval by half if you are using the car 75% of the time in the city whatever the mechanics may claim.

[anupamsinha]

Hi All,

Again time for an oil change for my Renault Scala. I am thinking of going with Amsoil signature series 5W-30.

Scala manual also says go with 5W-30. Is there anything else that I should consider?

My running is less that 8,000 kms annually. Though the difference between 5W-30 and 5W-40 is around 40%, i am inclined towards signature 5W-30 as it has a longer change interval and is a better product (I think) as well.

Let me know your views if Amsoil signature is worth the extra cost or not or if I should stick with Amsoil 5W-40 though the maximal recommends 5W-30. Though the manual also mentioned that 5W-40 would also work.

Would be getting the oil via Amazon.

Current cost of Amsoil 5W 30 signature series : Around 5,000
Current cost of Amsoil 5W 40 engine oil : 3,600

Would be needing 4.4 L of oil. So would buying a gallon and a quart.

[hserus]

For your extremely low levels of running, buying Amsoil is a waste. Please stick to the oem oil or something like Shell Helix hx8.

[pkrish]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

The reason I was asking is because I used to change oil at 5,000kms without fail on my Ecosport TDCI diesel. I figured I could stretch to 10K kms with the Amsoil.
I somehow just don't like how the car feels after 7-8K kms with any oil including the Amsoil so thinking of going back to 5K kms oil change but lesser priced oil.
Spending 4K on an oil change every 5-6 months worked out pretty expensive.
Was thinking if I can get the Mobil super3000 and change at 5,000kms for lesser cost than one oil change of the Amsoil.

I am thinking of doing almost the same for my Global Ford Fiesta 1.5TDCi (pre-facelift). Or go for slightly more expensive options mentioned below, although not as expensive as Amsoil Signature series. Some of the options I am thinking of are -

• Most straight forward / no-brainer since it meets/exceeds WSS-M2C913-B requirement in my manual - Mobil Super 3000 X1 Formula FE 5W-30 - 3.5L can + 1L can. Use 1L for top up or next oil change. Cost of change comes to (excluding filter cost) - Rs 1489 for 3.5L can + (Rs. 495/2) for 1L can = Rs. 1736 / -, and maybe change oil every 5k.

Other options I am contemplating -

• Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 - price is roughly 1.2k more than Mobil super. - ACEA C2/C3 certified
• Mobil 1 5W30 (Newer vehicle formula) - price is roughly 1k more than Mobil super - ACEA A1/B1 certified - which supposedly is similar to A5/B5.
• Castrol Edge 5W-30 LL (similar to Mobil 1 ESP Formula) - meets ACEA C3, costsroughly 1.4k more than Mobil super.
• Shell Helix HX8 5W-30 - meets ACEA A3/B4 spec, which supposedly is slightly thicker than A5/B5, slightly better protection at the cost of slightly lesser FE(?). Costs about Rs. 400 more than Mobil super (3.5L - 1789 + 1L - 623)
• Castrol MAGNATEC Stop-Start 5W-30 - meets ACEA A5/B5, costs about rs. 200 more than Mobil super
• Some oil spec details here - https://www.oilspecifications.org/acea.php

Not sure which among above would have maximum benefits, since they are all priced pretty close to each other.

[hserus]

A1/B1 is an obsolete standard superseded by A5/B5. Of these oils get the Magnatec if Mobil Super 3000 isn’t to your taste.

[Sridhar K]

Question to oil experts especially the ones used to Mahindra vehicles and their OEM oils. In my XUV 300 with 5500 KMs on the ODO, the first recommended oil change is at 10K Kms and subsequent changes at 20K Kms intervals. The oil suggested is Mahindra Maximile FEO.

Considering its cost and rating (15W40-CH4, my guess is, it is either mineral or semi-synth at best in which case isn't the oil change intervals too long? I am already feeling some roughness creeping in post 5K Kms. May be I am imagining things since I believe in (based on earlier experience) 5k, 7.5k and 10k change intervals for mineral, semi-synth and synthetic respectively.

Now, I would like to know (my drive is primarily in the city)
a) Any idea on Feo- is it is mineral or semi -synth?
b) Since I have to change oil to Feo at A.S.S at 10K,20K, 40K etc. to retain the warranty, synthetics options at every 10K Kms are ruled out. Considering the decent reviews on Feo, I can stick to Feo at service centers but question is on the ideal change interval - every 5K or 7500 K Kms?
or
any other options for the interim change outside A.S.S, while i stick to FEO at 10,20,40 Km KMS

[comfortablynumb]

Originally Posted by Sridhar K

Now, I would like to know (my drive is primarily in the city)

Maximile is a mineral oil. Use that during warranty period, but change at every 10k kms if primary usage is in city. You don't want to give them an excuse to deny a warranty claim on the flimsy pretext of using a non-M&M recommended oil.

Cheers,
Vikram

[JohnKT777]

Guys, I wanted to ask something...the recommended Oil for Fiat Linea Petrol (1.4 FIRE) is Selenia K. It's a fully Synthetic Lubricant, but never recommended or extolled as the best in category by any reviewer or auto portal.

1411_scat_ENG.pdf



The requirement is Synthetic base lubricants SAE 5W40 grade ACEA A3/B3/B4 FIAT 9.55535-M2 or N2 qualification.

Selenia K is not directly retailed in India. It is also not sold in Amazon or Flipkart. Only Fiat Service Centres have stock of this.

When I checked, it seemed that Shell Helix Ultra 550041109 5W-40 API SN Fully Synthetic Car Engine Oil is recommended as suitable by Amazon, both within the product description, as well as the Q&A section. A local mechanic I knew very well also strongly recommended Shell Helix.

Can anyone advise me on this? It is suitable to use it on my Linea Classic (P) 1.4 Fire?



Linea Handbook India Version.pdf

Looking forward to receiving some expert advice...

[Sridhar K]

Selenia is from Petronas Malaysia and was discussed a decade earlier when there were many Linea and Manza owners on this forum. AFAIK, it was semi -synthetic (though claimed as fully synthetic), decent oil but not necessarily the best. It was VFM and kept the cost of FIAT services low. You can use definitely use Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 or Mobil1 0W40 which are pretty good synthetic options on Linea Petrol. In fact for the same engine on Manza, the recommended oil was Mobil1 0W40 with Selenia as the secondary option

[hserus]

Shell hx8 5w30 would fit the bill actually and is a quite nice oil, it is certified for the m2 and n2 fiat specs. And for the Renault spec that the Duster needs. One of only two 5w30s (other than Castrol) that are acea a3b4 instead of a5b5 so good for newer Hyundais (post 2018 creta diesel etc) as well.

Shell Helix HX8 5W-30 API SN Plus/SN, ACEA A3/B4 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil for Cars (3.5 L) https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07SBF8QGB/..._CwS-DbVA0JXZ1

Specifications: API SN+/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; MB approval 229.3; VW 502.00/505.00; Renault RN0700, RN0710. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-N2 and 9.55535-M2.

[Sridhar K]

Originally Posted by hserus

Shell hx8 5w30 would fit the bill actually and is a quite nice oil, it is certified for the m2 and n2 fiat specs. And for the Renault spec that the Duster needs. One of only two 5w30s (other than Castrol) that are acea a3b4 instead of a5b5 so good for newer Hyundais (post 2018 creta iesel etc) as well.

Your views please on my query about 10K oil change interval for Mahindra engines using Maximile Feo, a mineral oil and other choices for XUV300 which requires a 15W40 CH4 at a minimum?