Re: Skoda Laura: Problems & solutions thread Quote:
Originally Posted by avinash_clt To be accurate, the position of the water pump can be termed more as in the middle of the car, but it takes drive from the gearbox side of the engine (via the other end of the balancer shaft through a pulley&belt). It sits beneath the intake manifold. Access to replace the pump is easier when the same engine is mounted longitudinally (as in the case Audi A4).
Current Octavia has third generation of the EA888 TSI motors. I am not sure, but from the pictures it seems that the water pump placement / construction / drive are similar to that of the 1.8TSI in Laura. |
A4 1.8TSi has longitudinal engine! Interesting! Quote:
Originally Posted by Maibaa
I saw your post on the water pump replacement on your Tucson. Almost half the cost is from the timing belt change. Note that in diesel cars, the timing belt also has to be replaced when changing water pump. This is not the case in petrol cars. So a quote of 25K just for the water pump change is concerning. |
Whether the water pump is driven by timing belt or something else (like in case of 1.8 TSi) has nothing to do with combustion system and fuel type, IMO.
BTW, in case of the Tuc, I got no warnings on the instrument cluster, even when the parking guy showed me the leak, temperature gauge hadn't moved at all from the standard position, so I was lucky, I replaced the pump before the engine overheated even once.
And for any such critical jobs, I will never give my Laura to any FNG. In the 6.5 years and 45000km that I clocked on the Laura, she has strictly been serviced at the dealer. Only wheel balancing and tyre rotations have been done outside, but that's me, I don't know of any FNG who really know the 1.8 TSi engine so I don't risk it even though the dealer rates are high (but then it is the case with Hyundai as well as I have seen in the 8 years of my Tuc's ownership). Maintaining cars is expensive, no doubt. Quote:
Originally Posted by avinash_clt
The quoted cost of the water pump is not exorbitant. Like mentioned in my previous post, the water pumps in the 1.8TSI are advanced units compared to the ones in 1.6/2.0TDI engines, located differently and significantly more expensive also. The assembly contains the thermostat unit and the coolant temperature sensor. Also when working properly, they are for the life of the engine (ironically) unlike the units on the diesels where they are replaced with the timing belt. Quote of 19k for the water pump seems to be fair, considering costs here in Europe. The pump with a history of failures, has atleast 3 part revisions post 2011. For reference, the current part number revision for the coolant pump should be either of 06H121026DC or 06H121026CP.
Labour involved in replacing the pump in 1.8TSI will be more than that in the case of 2.0TDIs. Because of the pump's location, replacement requires removal of intake manifold and other bits in front of the car. But 5k as labour definitely seems far stretched. So is 3k for coolant drain and refill. Insist on the ASC to use only standard labour codes.
If anyone is interested, attaching the self-study programme document for the EA888 1.8TSI engine's basic architecture. Good read. Regarding the coolant pump in discussion, from page 30 of the document. Attachment 1573927 |
Excellent info Avinash, thank you! Will surely read it. 
BTW, any idea where the engine oil really goes in the 1.8 TSi (Laura)? It's not alarming, but in last 6 years, I have never clocked even a single service interval without having to top up. And I don't even clock 15000km between services. It's anywhere between 8000 to 10000. And the tail pipes have a black carbon deposits! Same is the case with Polo TSi. What's the story, any idea? Thanks again  |