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Old 5th February 2018, 16:09   #6406
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Re: The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

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HI All,

I have a set of questions

1: What is more adviced when it comes to replacing the front & rear struts/Shock absorbers & coil spring?. Should I get them repaired or replaced. Not sure if coils can be tensioned again to its original state, but shock absorbers can be repaired. Only catch is the rear will be converted to an oil based, in-stead of original gas one.

2: Is it advisable to drive the vehicle for a stretch up to 5-6 Kms daily (one side) without pressing the accelerator & only shifting the gears till 4th or 5th whatever possible. I have observed that the Safari can "roll" comfortably on a speed of 30KM/H when in 4th gear with your foot nowhere close to the accelerator. It can go upto 50 KM/H on fifth under same scenario but eventually drops down to 40-42KM/H. Will this practice do any harm.

Before you come back to me with more question on why can't I accelerate on this section; The road in question here is the Hinjewadi PH3 road via mann gaon (Hinjewadi crowd may/will know it). It is under construction, but in a strange way.
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1. They are not meant to be repaired hence do not repair them, replacement is the only option. The local guys who repair the struts use normal used engine oil for refilling the struts.

I had replaced rear shocks plus springs, costed 1200 each for shocks and 1800 each for springs.


2. Do not lug the engine, it does more harm than good.

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Old 7th February 2018, 15:43   #6407
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Re: The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

Is it advisable to use "Double Side Foam Tape" inside engine compartment ?.
My storme's engine cover is not rigidly fixing in place even after changing the rubber bushes. The engine cover is vibrating on the run especially in lower gears. The noise is heard badly inside the cabin.I just wanted to do some DYI by putting some tapes under the engine cover.
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Is it advisable to use "Double Side Foam Tape" inside engine compartment ?.
My storme's engine cover is not rigidly fixing in place even after changing the rubber bushes. The engine cover is vibrating on the run especially in lower gears. The noise is heard badly inside the cabin.I just wanted to do some DYI by putting some tapes under the engine cover.
Dont put foam tape it will melt you can try either heat tape or Tesa tape ( cloth tape which is on wiring) and if both are not available try medical tape.

Link for Heat tape :

http://www.partsbigboss.in/pvc-heat-...p-37-3382.html

PS: The site is reliable I purchased Safari OVRM mirror from here. It was good quality convex mirror plate equivalent to OEM.
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Dont put foam tape it will melt you can try either heat tape or Tesa tape ( cloth tape which is on wiring) and if both are not available try medical tape.

Link for Heat tape :

http://www.partsbigboss.in/pvc-heat-...p-37-3382.html

PS: The site is reliable I purchased Safari OVRM mirror from here. It was good quality convex mirror plate equivalent to OEM.
Thanks. I am looking for something rubbery to put at the bottom so that the noise from engine cover is arrested while vibration.
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Re: The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

Hi Experts,

I have Safari 2.2 VTT (May 2012 model) with around 57k on the odo and still using the same original OEM battery (4.5 years old) - Amaron.

Problem: There were no such issues in last few months. I parked the car in the evening after driving for around 15 kms. It didn't crank in the next morning. The key in ignition was able to produce a noise from engine for thrice but for the fourth time it behaved as if there was no power in the battery.

It was then cranked using the jump start cable and it started but there was no power in the accelerator pedal. The RPMs were below 900 with Engine Check light ON.


Resolution: I drove it to the TATA A.S.S. today and their scanner displayed too many errors in the ECU and it was full. They just removed the errors from ECU memory and everything was fine.


Query: After removing the errors, the safari is behving normal i.e. no issue in cranking the engine and Engine Check light is also OFF. The workshop guys wanted to keep the Safari in workshop for further test drives but I somehow managed to get it back. Now, please advise if I can keep driving the Safari after flushing those errors from ECU?

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Hi Experts,

I have Safari 2.2 VTT (May 2012 model) with around 57k on the odo and still using the same original OEM battery (4.5 years old) - Amaron.

Problem: There were no such issues in last few months. I parked the car in the evening after driving for around 15 kms. It didn't crank in the next morning. The key in ignition was able to produce a noise from engine for thrice but for the fourth time it behaved as if there was no power in the battery.

It was then cranked using the jump start cable and it started but there was no power in the accelerator pedal. The RPMs were below 900 with Engine Check light ON.


Irish
Ask them to check electrical.
Check if there is no grounding or short in the wiring harness.
Usually such behavior indicates electrical faults , If insulation of some wire is gone it gives intermittent issues which gets resolved all of sudden but reappear suddenly.
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Ask them to check electrical.
Check if there is no grounding or short in the wiring harness.
Usually such behavior indicates electrical faults , If insulation of some wire is gone it gives intermittent issues which gets resolved all of sudden but reappear suddenly.
The car's abnormal behavior was resolved as soon as they removed the errors and re-cranked the engine. Also the service adviser told to take a test drive on high speed as the last error was related to the speed sensor.

I am worried because I am going for a long drive on the coming weekend.

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My 2.2 dicor seat belt reminder keeps coming on inspite of wearing them. It's been erratic and usually bad roads it comes on. It's pretty loud and irritating so looking for a solution.
I had this issue, the problem is with the electricals. In my case,Initially it was just the seat belt buzzing, then later on when I try to use the power window, it buzzes again. Gradually this has started up with my stereo also, all of a sudden stereo restarts. On a deep research, understood that it's a wiring and central lock combined issue. Got it fixed.

Get it rectified sooner.

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Hi,
The battery terminals were clamped incorrectly after the battery was recharged and brought back home. As a result , im assuming fuse or fuses are blown. Symptoms - no cranking, no lights, no alarm, no music system. When i placed the key in the ignition and turned it on, the dashboard lit up, but no cranking. (i dont recall seeing the service light coming up though.)


Thanks much for answers.
Is everything okay?? Please have the ecu checked. If ecu is okay, consider yourself lucky.

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The car's abnormal behavior was resolved as soon as they removed the errors and re-cranked the engine. Also the service adviser told to take a test drive on high speed as the last error was related to the speed sensor.

I am worried because I am going for a long drive on the coming weekend.

Cheers!
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Similar issue happened in my vehicle it refused to start in morning , The lights were coming up and also AC blower worked so problem was not battery. As I got down to check things after thud of door the problem disappeared for good 2/3 months.
I got the vehicle serviced in between and also a checkup before starting for long travel. While I was starting back to home on 1800KM journey at morning again same problem resurfaced and after a while randomly the vehicle started after someone slammed tail gate. The journey was event less and after return to Bangalore took it to TASS they could not find anything.

One fine day I switched off engine at busy signal and then it refused to start and this time I called helpline. They push started Safari and took to workshop after through diagnosis they found a short in main wiring harness to be the culprit.
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One fine day I switched off engine at busy signal and then it refused to start and this time I called helpline. They push started Safari and took to workshop after through diagnosis they found a short in main wiring harness to be the culprit.

Something of this sort has happened to me as well,I was traveling to Hyderabad from pune, it was a overnight journey and as I was reaching Sholapur the lights in the cluster started blinking randomly, along with the seatbelt buzzer,I always ware seatbelt and I was hooked up that day as well. By the time we reached the last toll booth of pune Sholapur highway, the Cluster was blinking nonstop and so was the seatbelt buzzer,imagine listing to that "teek teek" sound nonstop, trust me it's very irritating, you feel like throwing yourself out of the car.

Some how I got a wild thought to stop and check if it's the issue with battery. Immediately after last tollbooth I stopped the beast.
It refused to start again, no crank. Called up the help line, close by TASS was sterling motors and that opens at 10am, it was 1am when I made the call.
Fiddled with wiring harness for some time, then some how it started and let luckily sterling motors was about 5kms away. Parked at the entrance gate till 10am and got it checked, it was harness issue. By the time we started back to Hyd, it was like 5pm.
That feeling still haunts me when I'm on a long drive. After this event , I have quit driving long at nights ☹️,otherwise I love driving at nights and journey is fast.

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Dear all,

I'm about to make a purchase on a 2008 Safari 2.2 Vx 4x4. The vehicle has clocked about 1.05 lakh kms. The owner has also spent quite a large sum to fix the vehicle (bills available) - suspension overhaul, timing belt, clutch, hoses and a host of other things.

My question is, would it be advisable to buy a Safari with more than 1 lakh kms on the odo? My primary requirement is to travel with my family (Wife + kid).
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Dear all,

I'm about to make a purchase on a 2008 Safari 2.2 Vx 4x4. The vehicle has clocked about 1.05 lakh kms. The owner has also spent quite a large sum to fix the vehicle (bills available) - suspension overhaul, timing belt, clutch, hoses and a host of other things.

My question is, would it be advisable to buy a Safari with more than 1 lakh kms on the odo? My primary requirement is to travel with my family (Wife + kid).

Inspite of being well maintained vehicle, Safari has tendency to develop problems, one or the other thing will go kaput. This is my experience after having owned 4 different Safari's.
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Inspite of being well maintained vehicle, Safari has tendency to develop problems, one or the other thing will go kaput. This is my experience after having owned 4 different Safari's.
Thanks for the reply. I'm worried about major issues (with the engine or transmission or the turbo going kaput). I'm happy as long as the vehicle drives... fine with sounds and vibrations. The thing is, I already have a hatch for city use and I have a limited budget for a 4x4 for occasional trips. My question is if the Safari can be used till 1.8 lakh - 2 lakh kms, with proper maintenance of course. I'm worried about thousands of rupees bills and breakdowns. That's my main concern. I can live with fixing minor issues. Appreciate your response.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm worried about major issues (with the engine or transmission or the turbo going kaput). I'm happy as long as the vehicle drives... fine with sounds and vibrations. The thing is, I already have a hatch for city use and I have a limited budget for a 4x4 for occasional trips. My question is if the Safari can be used till 1.8 lakh - 2 lakh kms, with proper maintenance of course. I'm worried about thousands of rupees bills and breakdowns. That's my main concern. I can live with fixing minor issues. Appreciate your response.

Yes you can use compared to other vehicles parts are not too costly
And if well maintained turbo should last long.. Engine have no worry.
Max you may need to get injector serviced at TASS
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Dear all,

I'm about to make a purchase on a 2008 Safari 2.2 Vx 4x4. The vehicle has clocked about 1.05 lakh kms. The owner has also spent quite a large sum to fix the vehicle (bills available) - suspension overhaul, timing belt, clutch, hoses and a host of other things.

My question is, would it be advisable to buy a Safari with more than 1 lakh kms on the odo?
Timing belts are changed every 5 years or so on a time scale. Recently they changed my clutch though it had plenty of life left in it. As I was going to the hills, they advised me to change. It cost me about 20k.

The image here shows the old clutch.

So you see, most Safari DiCors are reasonably reliable and in some cases last a long time.
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