Re: Tata Safari service lamp glows , 2 TASS outlets have no clue! Quote:
Originally Posted by Dieselone Hi
I have a 2008 2.2 Safari dicor. The vehicle performed superbly for the last 4 plus years and has done 80,000 kms. Two months back while negotiating the Ooty ghat from the Madumalai side i noticed that the power dropped drastically. With great difficulty managed to reach the top. The interesting thing was that the service lamp did not glow. The next day all was fine and we travelled back to Bangalore without incident. Back in Bangalore there was no problem on the city roads for a couple of weeks. Then on a sunday drive the service lamp suddenly started to glow and the engine power was curtailed. Stopped the car and restarted, all was fine. Then after a few kilometres same issue. Next day took the car to KHT TASS in Whitefield.The error codes were earsed and I was told that the carbon needs to be cleaned from the silencer as the engine is getting feedback and hence the error. Was told to get the vehicle the next day for cleaning. Could not make it the next day so used the car in city for a few days without any incident. Then the light appeared again at low speed in the city.Was near Emm Emm motors on Banaswadi ring road so drove in to get a second opinion. The service advisor told me that the engine temperature sensor needs to be cleaned. Got that done, went for a test drive, light came on again. Then changed the sensor. Went for a drive- no light. Was happy andwent home. Come weekend took the car for a drive on Old Madras road, light came on again. Called Emm Emm guy, he said we need to check "all" the sensors and clean/replace them! Was not convinced so went back to KHT - a different advisor this time.He rubbished the idea of carbon deposit in the silencer and did the laptop diagnosys. this time some modulator switch on the exaust manifold was the culprit and it was cleaned. Went for a test drive - no issues. Next day went to the airport to pick my parents. On the way back driving at 70kmph the light came on again, this time on a mild gradient. Stopped, started again and continued, reached the Nagwara flyover, on the climb the light came on again.
Question- can someone enlighten me as to what is happening? I have lost trust in the diagnostic ability of the TASS guys :( . Has anyone faced a similliar problem here on the forum. Kindly advise.
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Do you remember what were the error codes generated ? Next time when the SA connects the lappie to the vehicle kindly note down the error codes so that we can analyze the same and let you know the details of those.
In your case you have mentioned that the light coming on is associated with loss of power.
How long light stays on when it comes ?
The next time when it comes on dont switch off your vehicle continue driving or remain in idling for some time. Note weather the light goes off on its own once the load on the engine eases off.
When have you changed your diesel filter and the sedimentor ? If the diesel filter or the sedimentor is clogged then whenever the engine is under load then the FIP may not get the required diesel which in turn causes loss of rail pressure triggering the light and loss of power.
The SA has mentioned of the silencer of carbon deposit. In a way he is true as the silencer has 3 mufflers out of which the first one is the catalytic convertor which has fine mesh like ceramic material. If this gets clogged then there is restriction on the exhaust gases passing out. Though this may not trigger the light.
Another component in the exhaust system is the EGR(exhaust gas recirculation) valve which may get jammed due to carbon deposit and may not function properly. This can trigger the light but then the vehicle should emit thick black smoke.
Then comes the pump & injectors. If the backleakage in the injectors is more then there is difficulty in maintaining the rail pressure which can trigger the light and also loss of power. The pump is also responsible to build and maintain the rail pressure.
Plese ask the advisor to connect the Diamond kit and carry out the static and dynamic test on the vehicle to check for the condition og the FIP and the injectors.
Keep me updated
Regards
Samir
Last edited by CRDIsamir : 29th October 2012 at 18:33.
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