The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

HappyWheels · 7th October 2010, 21:48

How did I miss the note on the ABS! Classic! This should definitely go to the jokes thread!

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

Pardon me, lodhra, but I couldn't help

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Sorry, I'm out of smileys.

Here you go, SS: 2 more smilies for this one:

suman · 8th October 2010, 10:56

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Originally Posted by lodhra

though its drivers personal choice someone suggested that keeping the brakes pressed for long may damage the abs sensors in gx henec if u ahve to stop for few moments than apply parking brake

Who is this someone, is it a Service Advisor? If so, you should specifically Report this guy for giving totally incorrect & misleading information. Seriously

anujmishra · 8th October 2010, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Lukeskywalker

Is the selector switch different for different versions?

No, It was no different but the switch operation was very smooth. I could select each and every position without effort. That was great. Hope to get it in my car soon.

dkamath · 9th October 2010, 10:48

Just returned from Concorde Motors, Mysore Road, with the clutch pressure gauge being used to check the clutch force/leverage. It read 14.4. And yes, as confirmed by other members here, anything beyond 18 qualifies for a clutch assembly change.
On casting my displeasure on the way in which the reading is generated, ie. with a sudden pressure applied all the way to the bottom of the clutch, i was then told to operate it, in my own way, (ie. gradually apply pressure on the clutch pedal, when the resistance is felt somewhere in between the clutch travel) on other Safari's in the service bay

. They felt nearly the same, and i have come to accept it as "normal". Will take a second opinion anyways, at my regular place of service, sometime in future.

djavalkar · 10th October 2010, 05:08

Can we fit rear disk brakes to the safari ? Has anyone tried that.

rb2399 · 10th October 2010, 06:55

I can hear engine noise more prominently once I cross ~2000 rpm/100 kmph.This is especially very audible when all the windows are rolled up.The engine sounds strained once I cross 100 kpmh.I know it's a diesel and it's supposed to make noise

,but just wanted to know if this threshold remains for others as well.

All the other indicators are ok i.e. mileage,no smoke,acceleration etc.

HappyWheels · 10th October 2010, 10:08

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Originally Posted by djavalkar

Can we fit rear disk brakes to the safari ? Has anyone tried that.

Don't! Would never advocate fiddling with the brakes, especially when we do not have access to well experience after market specialist in this.

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Originally Posted by rb2399

...All the other indicators are ok i.e. mileage,no smoke,acceleration etc.

RB: If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Lukeskywalker · 10th October 2010, 10:28

Got my safari back after 30k service, I had complained about the difficulty in operating the air circulation mode switch, I don't know what they did, but now it is relatively easier to operate across all modes.
Another thing I noticed is the clutch pedal is now very light when compared to it's condition pror to service.

lodhra · 10th October 2010, 13:10

hey guys

nice to know some stuff provided fun. but pardon me i am new to all thus abs abd styff hence just reported what i was told

anyways while driving today one small pebble from frunt truck on highway hit my windshield and it develiped a superficial crack

shld i change the windshield

how much does it cost

wilk installing new windshield compromise leakage proofing

will post a pic

lodhra · 10th October 2010, 17:10

Note from Mod: There are several spelling & grammatical errors in your posts. This negatively affects the board experience for other readers.

Kindly ensure that you proof-read your posts prior to submission. Also, it would be a good idea to use spell-checkers.

SS-Traveller · 10th October 2010, 17:45

@lodhra: A small crack on the windshield is not something to worry about, unless the crack increases gradually over a period of time. You could take the car in to Windshield Experts for an opinion, and they sometimes repair such cracks with an epoxy-based compound, preventing the crack from expanding further.

Not sure about the "plastic-like noise" that you report. Could be because of a nylon / rubber bush related to the steering or suspension components. It could also be due to a badly fitted engine/sump guard, which rubs somewhere when going over rough roads.

Please also spell-check before posting to avoid the innumerable typo and spelling errors. Makes reading & understanding your posts difficult at times.

lodhra · 10th October 2010, 18:15

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SS-Traveller · 10th October 2010, 19:21

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Originally Posted by lodhra

where can i find good windshield expert in mumbai

Check these links: Windshield Repair Experts and Laminated Windshield Replacement - Windshield Experts and WSE Network.

v&v · 11th October 2010, 08:00

My safari too have a small crack for past 14 months. All i did is put fevi-quick and uses cello tape - both from inside and outside.

I too had taken to wind shield experts. they said while repairing, there is a 5% chance that the crack may expand, in that event one has to change the glass. I opted not to do the same.

My desi jugad is working fine.

As for the noise did you check for tyre scrapping on bumper ?

cool_dube · 11th October 2010, 12:15

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Originally Posted by rb2399

I can hear engine noise more prominently once I cross ~2000 rpm/100 kmph.

Are you sure it is engine noise that you are hearing? Given its wonderful aerodynamics

Safari is prone to a lot of 'wind noise' (which translates to cabin noise with windows rolled up) at speeds on the higher side of 100 kmph.

9th October 2010, 10:48	#2689
dkamath BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: BLR / MLR Posts: 580 Thanked: 162 Times	Clutch pressure gauge reading at 14.4 Just returned from Concorde Motors, Mysore Road, with the clutch pressure gauge being used to check the clutch force/leverage. It read 14.4. And yes, as confirmed by other members here, anything beyond 18 qualifies for a clutch assembly change. On casting my displeasure on the way in which the reading is generated, ie. with a sudden pressure applied all the way to the bottom of the clutch, i was then told to operate it, in my own way, (ie. gradually apply pressure on the clutch pedal, when the resistance is felt somewhere in between the clutch travel) on other Safari's in the service bay . They felt nearly the same, and i have come to accept it as "normal". Will take a second opinion anyways, at my regular place of service, sometime in future.
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10th October 2010, 05:08	#2690
djavalkar BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 42 Thanked: 8 Times	Can we fit rear disk brakes to the safari ? Has anyone tried that.
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10th October 2010, 06:55	#2691
rb2399 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 229 Thanked: 985 Times	Engine noise I can hear engine noise more prominently once I cross ~2000 rpm/100 kmph.This is especially very audible when all the windows are rolled up.The engine sounds strained once I cross 100 kpmh.I know it's a diesel and it's supposed to make noise ,but just wanted to know if this threshold remains for others as well. All the other indicators are ok i.e. mileage,no smoke,acceleration etc.
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10th October 2010, 10:28	#2693
Lukeskywalker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,397 Thanked: 1,243 Times View My Garage	Air circulation mode switch Got my safari back after 30k service, I had complained about the difficulty in operating the air circulation mode switch, I don't know what they did, but now it is relatively easier to operate across all modes. Another thing I noticed is the clutch pedal is now very light when compared to it's condition pror to service.
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10th October 2010, 13:10	#2694
lodhra BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 197 Thanked: 40 Times	hey guys nice to know some stuff provided fun. but pardon me i am new to all thus abs abd styff hence just reported what i was told anyways while driving today one small pebble from frunt truck on highway hit my windshield and it develiped a superficial crack shld i change the windshield how much does it cost wilk installing new windshield compromise leakage proofing will post a pic
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10th October 2010, 17:10	#2695
lodhra BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 197 Thanked: 40 Times	Note from Mod: There are several spelling & grammatical errors in your posts. This negatively affects the board experience for other readers. Kindly ensure that you proof-read your posts prior to submission. Also, it would be a good idea to use spell-checkers. Last edited by GTO : 14th October 2010 at 15:15.
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10th October 2010, 17:45	#2696
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,185 Thanked: 27,711 Times View My Garage	@lodhra: A small crack on the windshield is not something to worry about, unless the crack increases gradually over a period of time. You could take the car in to Windshield Experts for an opinion, and they sometimes repair such cracks with an epoxy-based compound, preventing the crack from expanding further. Not sure about the "plastic-like noise" that you report. Could be because of a nylon / rubber bush related to the steering or suspension components. It could also be due to a badly fitted engine/sump guard, which rubs somewhere when going over rough roads. Please also spell-check before posting to avoid the innumerable typo and spelling errors. Makes reading & understanding your posts difficult at times.
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10th October 2010, 18:15	#2697
lodhra BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 197 Thanked: 40 Times	Post Deleted by the Team-BHP Support : SMS / Slang is STRICTLY prohibited on this community. We would much appreciate your using full & proper English in posts, for the benefit of other forum users. Please view our board rules carefully before proceeding any further. Last edited by GTO : 14th October 2010 at 15:16.
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11th October 2010, 08:00	#2699
v&v Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,545 Thanked: 1,207 Times View My Garage	My safari too have a small crack for past 14 months. All i did is put fevi-quick and uses cello tape - both from inside and outside. I too had taken to wind shield experts. they said while repairing, there is a 5% chance that the crack may expand, in that event one has to change the glass. I opted not to do the same. My desi jugad is working fine. As for the noise did you check for tyre scrapping on bumper ? Last edited by GTO : 14th October 2010 at 15:16. Reason: Quoted post deleted
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