The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

suman · 23rd July 2010, 14:32

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Originally Posted by ThE Godfather

Sometime back, he service guys raised the height of the car. Would that be a reason of bumpy ride?

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Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

Hey how did they raise the height of the car...??
Are there suspension adjustments to do this...??

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Originally Posted by amitk26

For raising height he must have added shim plates. yes improper suspension setting can give bumpy ride.
But question is why ? If it aint broke dont try to fix it that's the best policy to maintain anything.

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Originally Posted by ThE Godfather

Well, the service guys just adjusted the height with the help of some screws. Nothing opened or addd. They turned some screws and raised the height.s

Guys, chassis height checking & adjustment (if necessary) is part of the regular service schedule. I'm not familiar with the 2.2 service schedule but its there in the 3.0 liter schedule under the section on suspension checks, alignment & balancing.

Its just that the TASS prefer to skip this bit because (I was told) its a tedious & cumbersome process. If you see some of the older Safaris, the rear rides lower than the front - those are sure-shot candidates for the chassis height raising treatment.

sidcruise79 · 23rd July 2010, 16:52

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Originally Posted by dadu

Its been done already, you need to check on the height and the distance from front so that you are able to view the side and the front bumper comfortably together.

Attachment 392439

Thanks Dadu,
You have been a life saver as usual

. Please let me know whether u drilled holes in the fender, how many and was it easy. Also is there any way to do it without drilling holes in the body. And did you do it at Toyota or elsewhere.

dadu · 23rd July 2010, 19:18

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Originally Posted by sidcruise79

Thanks Dadu,
You have been a life saver as usual

. Please let me know whether u drilled holes in the fender, how many and was it easy. Also is there any way to do it without drilling holes in the body. And did you do it at Toyota or elsewhere.

Oh! no, its not in my Safari, its a 3.0ltr I had seen earlier in the parking lot. My assumption is that it will not work without drilling holes as you need to fit it snugly.

My suggestion is to buy it and fix the position by asking someone to hold it in place as you sit on the drivers seat. Ask him to outline the clamp on the bodu using a soft marker. Then mark the holes too before start drilling. Use a nail to create the centre in the hole marked for the drill bit to direct while drilling, otherwise the drill will jump.

gowda79 · 24th July 2010, 14:24

Details of 5th Free Service at 62,000Kms

Diesel Engine Oil CH4 15W40 Castrol GTX Diesel - 7.7Ltr - 1,913.15
Assembly Oil Filter - 16035
Assy Fuel Filter Delphi - 1,559.47
Oil Seal - 2nos - 42.29
Gasket Fr Hub Cover - 2 - 22.91
Grease EP2 Castrol - 500gms - 96.04
Brake Oil Universal Castrol - 250gm - 74.89
Alloy Wheel Cover - 192.95
Assy Rubber Bushing (Bottom Link) - 4nos - 525.11
Tie Rod Safari RH - 852.86
Coolant Golden Cruiser Sunstar 1400M - 5Ltr - 594.70
Battery Stud - 2nos - 29.96
Insulation Tape - 14.98
R/R Tie Rod with ends for LH Tie Rod - 300
Centre Link Replacement (RR Link Rod Bush Lower Replaced) - 750
Exterior Waxoyl Treatment (Engine Flush Out Done) - 760
Hub Greasing - 900
Coolant flushed and replaced - 300
Labour - 3,402.11
Tax - 400
Total - 10,378

Lukeskywalker · 24th July 2010, 14:35

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Assembly Oil Filter - 16035

Gowdre, snap out of it!!
What was the oil filter made of??

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Alloy Wheel Cover - 192.95

What is this?

gowda79 · 24th July 2010, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Lukeskywalker

Gowdre, snap out of it!!
What was the oil filter made of??

Missed out the decimals Lukey it is 160.35

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Originally Posted by Lukeskywalker

What is this?

This was for the hub Cap

mjothi · 24th July 2010, 14:57

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Originally Posted by gowda79

Labour - 3,402.11

Is that usual?

Btw, where did you get it serviced?

gowda79 · 24th July 2010, 15:44

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Originally Posted by mjothi

Is that usual?

Btw, where did you get it serviced?

The Labour charges are included for all the job done including suspension and tie rod work.

The Servicing was done at Concorde Motors, Mysore Road and well taken care by Mr.Reddy who is proactive in sorting out the issues.

4x4addict · 25th July 2010, 12:31

@gowda: Shoudn't labor be free for the 5th Free service? I thought you only pay for parts/consumables and not the labor for Free service.

Rohit26 · 28th July 2010, 18:04

I'm planning to fit a single big seat just like driver or co-driver seat instead of one jumper seat in safari.B'cos in long journey its uncomfortable to adjust 4 persons in middle row.So pls tell me what are the options .Would the person be comfortable in the rear or will it be a bumpy ride/seat like gypsy .
If anyone have carried out similar experiment help me..

mercedised · 28th July 2010, 19:14

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Originally Posted by gowda79

Details of 5th Free Service at 62,000Kms

Diesel Engine Oil CH4 15W40 Castrol GTX Diesel - 7.7Ltr - 1,913.15

IMO the recommended grade is 20w50 and not xw40? Please clear the doubt!

SPEEDY_RACER · 28th July 2010, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Rohit26

I'm planning to fit a single big seat just like driver or co-driver seat instead of one jumper seat in safari.B'cos in long journey its uncomfortable to adjust 4 persons in middle row.So pls tell me what are the options .Would the person be comfortable in the rear or will it be a bumpy ride/seat like gypsy .
If anyone have carried out similar experiment help me..

Please have alook at my safari which i carried out recently.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-safari-4.html

in case you want any confirmation please ring me up

Rohit26 · 29th July 2010, 09:43

Thanks SPEEDY_RACER

,My all doubts are cleared.It will also help many safari lovers here.. You have done the job already & posted the pics too.

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Originally Posted by SPEEDY_RACER

Please have alook at my safari which i carried out recently.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-safari-4.html

in case you want any confirmation please ring me up

dadu · 29th July 2010, 12:18

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Originally Posted by mercedised

IMO the recommended grade is 20w50 and not xw40? Please clear the doubt!

Its SAE 15W/40, API-CH4 + MB 228.3 or higher,for running under normal temperature, for sub Zero its different.

Holyghost · 29th July 2010, 18:48

What is the price of Front Brake Pads for 2.2? I removed them yesterday to check the status of the pads and it doesn't look like it will last for another 500KM. I noticed the pads on the inner side of the discs are the ones which are worn out much more than the outer ones. Is this normal?

And is it okay if I change them myself. It looks like a pretty straight forward job, Pulling out the old pads and putting in the new ones.

24th July 2010, 14:24	#2419
gowda79 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,478 Thanked: 194 Times View My Garage	Details of 5th Free Service at 62,000Kms Diesel Engine Oil CH4 15W40 Castrol GTX Diesel - 7.7Ltr - 1,913.15 Assembly Oil Filter - 16035 Assy Fuel Filter Delphi - 1,559.47 Oil Seal - 2nos - 42.29 Gasket Fr Hub Cover - 2 - 22.91 Grease EP2 Castrol - 500gms - 96.04 Brake Oil Universal Castrol - 250gm - 74.89 Alloy Wheel Cover - 192.95 Assy Rubber Bushing (Bottom Link) - 4nos - 525.11 Tie Rod Safari RH - 852.86 Coolant Golden Cruiser Sunstar 1400M - 5Ltr - 594.70 Battery Stud - 2nos - 29.96 Insulation Tape - 14.98 R/R Tie Rod with ends for LH Tie Rod - 300 Centre Link Replacement (RR Link Rod Bush Lower Replaced) - 750 Exterior Waxoyl Treatment (Engine Flush Out Done) - 760 Hub Greasing - 900 Coolant flushed and replaced - 300 Labour - 3,402.11 Tax - 400 Total - 10,378
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25th July 2010, 12:31	#2424
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,490 Thanked: 4,558 Times View My Garage	@gowda: Shoudn't labor be free for the 5th Free service? I thought you only pay for parts/consumables and not the labor for Free service.
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28th July 2010, 18:04	#2425
Rohit26 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ghaziabad U.P Posts: 43 Thanked: Once	I'm planning to fit a single big seat just like driver or co-driver seat instead of one jumper seat in safari.B'cos in long journey its uncomfortable to adjust 4 persons in middle row.So pls tell me what are the options .Would the person be comfortable in the rear or will it be a bumpy ride/seat like gypsy . If anyone have carried out similar experiment help me..
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29th July 2010, 18:48	#2430
Holyghost BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 594 Thanked: 1,129 Times	What is the price of Front Brake Pads for 2.2? I removed them yesterday to check the status of the pads and it doesn't look like it will last for another 500KM. I noticed the pads on the inner side of the discs are the ones which are worn out much more than the outer ones. Is this normal? And is it okay if I change them myself. It looks like a pretty straight forward job, Pulling out the old pads and putting in the new ones.
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