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Originally Posted by amitk26 Amartya sorry to say but too much of hearsay.
I hope you know that "drivetrain" is a word invented by auto magazines for gearbox , drive shafts and differential combined together. None of the issues you mentioned below are due to "drivetrain" . Similarly engine related components are termed as "powerplant', Personally I hate this terminology and don't understand why journos can't use non confusing correct engineering terms which layman also understands as automobiles are around for more then 100 years. |
My understanding of the term, kind of inline with what you said, basically put the pulley's as a part of the drivetrain. I agree that it doesn't make sense to use such terminology. I too would refrain in the future.
Although my post did sound like hearsay, even I would have thought the same, I gleaned most of it from the Safari 2.2 technical page. The one about the timing belt is on page2. It wasn't a tbhpian's car, but the source was a tbhpian. Check it out, it's right after your post on that page. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-thread-2.html Quote:
Originally Posted by amitk26 The radiator issue on this thread occurred during a service due to poor workman ship at the workshop but not actually a issue due to radiator. Also it is not present in any other vehicle. |
Couldn't agree more, also I knew it, I just gave that example to clarify that "had" there been a problem with the radiater, although it's not a strictly mechanical part (as in, without moving parts), it was non-cosmetic. Bad example from me. Quote:
Originally Posted by amitk26 Well not crankshaft pulley , The retro changed timing belt pulley . Actually they have changed the whole timing kit. |
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Originally Posted by amitk26 Have you ever heard this sound first hand ? The sound was like some one doing gargles and was due to smaller EGR valve. In clutter of older engine this was inaudible but in 2.2 rest of engine is relatively quite so it was audible and this sound went away in mid 2008 with 90 mm EGR valve instead of 70mm. This sound was not causing any issue per see , If mercedese benz can live with a little clutter of diesel engine whats so wrong in a humble safari. Before some one jumps up he/she should listen to a Kompresser engine sound. |
Agreed and accepted. I also think that the VW/Skoda (atleast the PD ones) diesels sound worse than the first generation Indica. Quote:
Originally Posted by amitk26 Never ever heard of a timing belt snap IMHO on T-BHP or elsewhere on 2.2 Safari. Can you please site a post ? |
Have cited it above.
Now, here is the part I was waiting to get to to type. I love the Safari, from the day it came out. I still do. I also regard the 2.2VTT to be a very good engine (I haven't driven a Safari for extended durations, but at least 200 kms).
It just pains me to see that things that are not really wrong with the car (at the design stage), end up causing people trouble because of manufacturing inconsistencies. Another grouse is that Tata has been able to make such significant strides in manufacturing and QC (while still retaining the fantastic VFM proposition) with the Manza and the Vista, but the Safari still soldiers on with hardly any manufacturing and QC optimizations.
Apologies for taking the thread off-track with one not so well thought post. |