The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

LionX · 27th January 2010, 17:58

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Originally Posted by amitk26

Why not search a Tata Spare dealer and FNG may be yo can go to same place as GD1418 for out of warranty jobs.

Bangalore folks do you know any Tata spare parts dealer or third party garage where one can buy spares ? I know A.S.S sells parts OTC but there is difference in cost and I think jobs such as air filter change voluntary intermediate oil change ( need Oil filter) etc. are best done outside.

Today I checked my airfilter it is dark grey in color and tapping against wall did not make much difference. The red band has not appeared . Also in the Air box I noticed some sand particles

so I think a filter change is reqired.

amit, just try Real Automobiles in JC road. There is a big difference in part price.

Traveler · 28th January 2010, 01:27

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Originally Posted by richie4u

i have a problem with the brakes of my dicor,well what happens is that sometimes while braking to come to a slow stop I feel a sound with a very very light vibration kind of when i apply the brakes gradually,this problems happens not many times is this problem something to worry about?

Exact same problem was told to me by a friend who owns a Safari 2.2 Dicor.

He said that this happens only after driving for a few kilometers when the brakes have had a chance to warm up. It is almost like a "Grinding" noise accompanied with vibration from the front discs. His vehicle has done around 4K till date.

Do let us know if you find a solution.

amitk26 · 28th January 2010, 09:34

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Originally Posted by richie4u

i have a problem with the brakes of my dicor,well what happens is that sometimes while braking to come to a slow stop I feel a sound with a very very light vibration kind of when i apply the brakes gradually,this problems happens not many times is this problem something to worry about?

OL so let me guess you notice this sound when you apply brakes to come to standstill or to near stop speed right ?
If this is correct can you tell us in which gear you observed this ? Do you downshift before applying brakes or depress clutch ?

This vehicle has enormous torque so behavior is not like petrol vehicles.
If you notice this only while stopping without shifting down or pressing clutch there is nothing to worry.

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Originally Posted by manikahuja

Exact same problem was told to me by a friend who owns a Safari 2.2 Dicor.

He said that this happens only after driving for a few kilometers when the brakes have had a chance to warm up. It is almost like a "Grinding" noise accompanied with vibration from the front discs. His vehicle has done around 4K till date.

Do let us know if you find a solution.

Well your description looks little different then Richie but anyway see reply above and ask your friend to try same.

bj96 · 28th January 2010, 09:54

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Originally Posted by amitk26

This vehicle has enormous torque so behavior is not like petrol vehicles

+1.

To test, start the truck and drive around (warm up and steady idling). Now come to 1st or 2nd gear, stop her while pressing clutch. When the speed is zero, clutch pressed fully, no accelerator, leave the clutch and feel the beast's reaction.

Boy! it was an experience for me and the two watchmen who saw it. If, I go further, it will be OT

-BJ

Traveler · 28th January 2010, 13:46

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Originally Posted by amitk26

OL so let me guess you notice this sound when you apply brakes to come to standstill or to near stop speed right ?
If this is correct can you tell us in which gear you observed this ? Do you downshift before applying brakes or depress clutch ?

This vehicle has enormous torque so behavior is not like petrol vehicles.
If you notice this only while stopping without shifting down or pressing clutch there is nothing to worry.

Well your description looks little different then Richie but anyway see reply above and ask your friend to try same.

He says he is sure that is happens only after the brakes have warmed up a bit. Also it comes only when he is braking gradually to come to a complete stop.

The pressure applied on the brake pedal is firm but not like as if trying to jam the brakes He has also tried it in while pressing the clutch in both second and first gears as well as in neutral. in all cases the vibration (like something is grinding) is present.

If he applies firmer pressure then the vibration is absent, it is almost like the vibration is present only when a certain amount of pressure is applied and the vehicle is brought to complete stop while maintaining the same pressure on the brake pedal till it comes to a stop.

Hope this explains

richie4u · 28th January 2010, 16:04

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Originally Posted by manikahuja

He says he is sure that is happens only after the brakes have warmed up a bit. Also it comes only when he is braking gradually to come to a complete stop.

The pressure applied on the brake pedal is firm but not like as if trying to jam the brakes He has also tried it in while pressing the clutch in both second and first gears as well as in neutral. in all cases the vibration (like something is grinding) is present.

If he applies firmer pressure then the vibration is absent, it is almost like the vibration is present only when a certain amount of pressure is applied and the vehicle is brought to complete stop while maintaining the same pressure on the brake pedal till it comes to a stop.

Perfectly same,I have the same problem but couldn't explain it very well but you have said it extremely accurate so to the experts what can be the problem?

jkdas · 28th January 2010, 16:15

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Originally Posted by manikahuja

Exact same problem was told to me by a friend who owns a Safari 2.2 Dicor.

He said that this happens only after driving for a few kilometers when the brakes have had a chance to warm up. It is almost like a "Grinding" noise accompanied with vibration from the front discs. His vehicle has done around 4K till date.

Do let us know if you find a solution.

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Originally Posted by richie4u

Perfectly same,I have the same problem but couldn't explain it very well but you have said it extremely accurate so to the experts what can be the problem?

Similar issue was reported here and TASS had a solution. I couldnt find the post though. I was something to do with the front disc or so.

richie4u · 28th January 2010, 21:37

I literally searched each and every page of this thread for the problem but have not found the solution for the problem(Though i learned about all the possible problems I may suffer later),Well I will be checking the problem out with TASS tomorrow,But before that please give me an idea about the above problem so that I don't make a fool of myself tomorrow.

cool_dube · 28th January 2010, 23:16

Guys,

I recently did the first long/night drive in my Safari and felt that the stock headlamps (I believe these are 55/60) are not powerful enough. Somewhere on this thread I read about upgrading to Osram 90/100. Are those good eough? Anyone tried that? Any other suggestions?

R_R · 29th January 2010, 08:30

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Originally Posted by richie4u

i have a problem with the brakes of my dicor,well what happens is that sometimes while braking to come to a slow stop I feel a sound with a very very light vibration kind of when i apply the brakes gradually,this problems happens not many times is this problem something to worry about?

Are you sure this is not just ABS pulsating? I am told ABS brakes give a vibrating/pulsating feedback.

richie4u · 29th January 2010, 15:56

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Originally Posted by R_R

Are you sure this is not just ABS pulsating? I am told ABS brakes give a vibrating/pulsating feedback.

Well i never got the feeling from the time i bought it so why now?

Traveler · 29th January 2010, 16:10

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Originally Posted by richie4u

Well i never got the feeling from the time i bought it so why now?

Safari EX 2.2 is what my friend has, I think that does not have ABS at all..

richie4u · 29th January 2010, 16:37

Well mine is a VX and does have ABS,Visited TASS but they were busy today will be taking the car tomorrow,will post what they say.

sidcruise79 · 1st February 2010, 14:56

Hi. I need some clarity on the actual functioning of the HVAC system of the 2.2. I have noticed that hot air starts coming from the vents when I turn the temp knob to the centre (medium cool) when the aircon is on. Is this normal. If not how do u get the aircon to work in low cool. Also when I turn the temp knob I hear a thunk noise as if some vent is being closed partially. What is this noise?

jkdas · 1st February 2010, 16:01

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Originally Posted by cool_dube

Guys,

I recently did the first long/night drive in my Safari and felt that the stock headlamps (I believe these are 55/60) are not powerful enough. Somewhere on this thread I read about upgrading to Osram 90/100. Are those good eough? Anyone tried that? Any other suggestions?

I use 90/100 Bosch one ( I guess

or maybe Rallye ) ; big difference! Get it !

Stock is 55/60W.

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Originally Posted by sidcruise79

Hi. I need some clarity on the actual functioning of the HVAC system of the 2.2. I have noticed that hot air starts coming from the vents when I turn the temp knob to the centre (medium cool) when the aircon is on. Is this normal. If not how do u get the aircon to work in low cool. Also when I turn the temp knob I hear a thunk noise as if some vent is being closed partially. What is this noise?

Its coz hot is mixed with cold air to get the effect! Not a control in the thermostat.

Right guys ?

28th January 2010, 21:37	#1733
richie4u BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Goa Posts: 626 Thanked: 517 Times View My Garage	I literally searched each and every page of this thread for the problem but have not found the solution for the problem(Though i learned about all the possible problems I may suffer later),Well I will be checking the problem out with TASS tomorrow,But before that please give me an idea about the above problem so that I don't make a fool of myself tomorrow.
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28th January 2010, 23:16	#1734
cool_dube Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,650 Thanked: 4,553 Times	Stronger headlamps for my Safari Guys, I recently did the first long/night drive in my Safari and felt that the stock headlamps (I believe these are 55/60) are not powerful enough. Somewhere on this thread I read about upgrading to Osram 90/100. Are those good eough? Anyone tried that? Any other suggestions?
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29th January 2010, 16:37	#1738
richie4u BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Goa Posts: 626 Thanked: 517 Times View My Garage	Well mine is a VX and does have ABS,Visited TASS but they were busy today will be taking the car tomorrow,will post what they say.
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1st February 2010, 14:56	#1739
sidcruise79 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 128 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Hvac Hi. I need some clarity on the actual functioning of the HVAC system of the 2.2. I have noticed that hot air starts coming from the vents when I turn the temp knob to the centre (medium cool) when the aircon is on. Is this normal. If not how do u get the aircon to work in low cool. Also when I turn the temp knob I hear a thunk noise as if some vent is being closed partially. What is this noise?
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