Fuel siphon not possible in Elantra /NHC

pranil · 14th July 2008, 17:11

Hi Guys

Recentely I tried to remove fuel from my Elantra by siphoning. But however long the pipe was it was not able to reach petrol inside the tank ( The tank was 90 % full).

Getting curious we tried it on my frinds City. Same thing

1. The tank pipe is with lot of twists making it difficult to put the pipe in
2. There seems to be a filte or stopper of some kind as when I tried to put a wire in it could easily connect with petrol as evident when taken out.

A quick serach in google threw light on the situation.

1. There is a antitheft machanism in most of the new cars . It is made of small plates with drilled holes installed in tubing at atleast tow places so that no hose can pass through but the fuel will reach the tank

2. Some euro 4 cars have a baffel plate of cover always floating on top of the fuel to prevent the fuel evoporation and oxidation .

Now the question is how do I remove fuel in emergency ( say ona long trip ) without neddeding to bleed the fuel line.

Anil

anonymous · 14th July 2008, 17:29

I think there is screw underneath the car body, which is used to take the fuel out of the car. Don't know the location though

Lukeskywalker · 14th July 2008, 17:32

Easier way is to unclip the fuel line which goes into the engine in the bonnet, just turn on ignition (not the engine), the fuel pump will pump out some fuel before cutting off.

arunforu1 · 14th July 2008, 18:21

To Take out fuel without siphoning from fuel-filler tube:

1: open the hood, take out fuel feed hose clip & then hose itself, turn ignition on(let the self starter run) & vehicle pumps fuel.CAUTION: spill overs can be dangerous in hot engine condition.

2: Take out the clip & hose connection from fuel filter(usually located near left rear wheel) & fuel starts coming out under gravity, It is much safer area to take gasoline out, as petrol spill over near hot engine is dangerous.

May need to bleed the fuel line if vehicle has close fuel feed system as in diesels.

dadu · 14th July 2008, 20:09

Have you tried a thinner pipe like the one used by Mason's in the construction industry for checking the flooe level, same can be found in the Motorcycles tank to engine.

If there is a flap covering it, no way, but if its a small mesh, might be possible. Also check with your A.S.S mechanic on how they do it, if required.

14th July 2008, 17:11	#1
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	Fuel siphon not possible in Elantra /NHC Hi Guys Recentely I tried to remove fuel from my Elantra by siphoning. But however long the pipe was it was not able to reach petrol inside the tank ( The tank was 90 % full). Getting curious we tried it on my frinds City. Same thing 1. The tank pipe is with lot of twists making it difficult to put the pipe in 2. There seems to be a filte or stopper of some kind as when I tried to put a wire in it could easily connect with petrol as evident when taken out. A quick serach in google threw light on the situation. 1. There is a antitheft machanism in most of the new cars . It is made of small plates with drilled holes installed in tubing at atleast tow places so that no hose can pass through but the fuel will reach the tank 2. Some euro 4 cars have a baffel plate of cover always floating on top of the fuel to prevent the fuel evoporation and oxidation . Now the question is how do I remove fuel in emergency ( say ona long trip ) without neddeding to bleed the fuel line. Anil
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14th July 2008, 17:29	#2
anonymous BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NCR Posts: 565 Thanked: 26 Times	I think there is screw underneath the car body, which is used to take the fuel out of the car. Don't know the location though
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14th July 2008, 17:32	#3
Lukeskywalker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,397 Thanked: 1,243 Times View My Garage	Easier way is to unclip the fuel line which goes into the engine in the bonnet, just turn on ignition (not the engine), the fuel pump will pump out some fuel before cutting off.
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14th July 2008, 18:21	#4
arunforu1 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 254 Thanked: 7 Times	To Take out fuel without siphoning from fuel-filler tube: 1: open the hood, take out fuel feed hose clip & then hose itself, turn ignition on(let the self starter run) & vehicle pumps fuel.CAUTION: spill overs can be dangerous in hot engine condition. 2: Take out the clip & hose connection from fuel filter(usually located near left rear wheel) & fuel starts coming out under gravity, It is much safer area to take gasoline out, as petrol spill over near hot engine is dangerous. May need to bleed the fuel line if vehicle has close fuel feed system as in diesels. Last edited by arunforu1 : 14th July 2008 at 18:24.
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14th July 2008, 20:09	#5
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	Have you tried a thinner pipe like the one used by Mason's in the construction industry for checking the flooe level, same can be found in the Motorcycles tank to engine. If there is a flap covering it, no way, but if its a small mesh, might be possible. Also check with your A.S.S mechanic on how they do it, if required.
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