Insulating car from external heat

harry2223 · 29th June 2008, 09:54

hi friends i own a maruti 800 and retrofited an ac . the cooling of ac is good as this can be felt by placing your hand in front of the blower . but as i think the car is not properly insulated from external heat so what material should be used to insulate car from external heat.

can i use thermocol or apply aluminium foil over door panel and on the floor. will this help or not.i already have tinted glasses. are there some another materials which can be used . i want the cheapest material as i am going to buy another car in few days .

rohan_fonseca · 29th June 2008, 10:51

Harry park in the shade! If you really plan on going ahead try heatlon.

anupmathur · 29th June 2008, 11:21

Harry, the main problem is the poor insulation of the roof panel. Get some thermocole or heatlon put in there. That alone should help quite a lot.

dinar · 29th June 2008, 11:22

Get the car a padding of Heatlon, it cheap and work will [to an extant ].... and gat a good quality film on the windows... heatlon should be put on the roof also to get the thermal insulation your looking for.

harry2223 · 29th June 2008, 11:50

roof already a fibre one

dadu · 29th June 2008, 12:26

Apart from the roof the front windshield also brings in a lot of heat.

If you cannot do more to the roof, get tints for your WS.

sanjayatarizona · 29th June 2008, 13:03

Buddy, try out the front WS tints IMO they make a very perceptible difference(reduces oncoming glare at night as well). Expensive though as a decent one costs around 2.5K.

dinar · 29th June 2008, 14:53

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Originally Posted by harry2223

roof already a fibre one

I did not get this..... do mean the molded roof, which is available? or some thing else. The material ranges from around 4mm - 10mm and can be compressed, so even if you have molded roof, you should be able to squeeze in thin layer of this,between the roof [metal] and the inner panel. Roof is tha main part that absorb the heat so insulating this is very important.

condor · 29th June 2008, 16:03

If you are going to buy a new car in a few days, are you going to continue to have the car ?

And importantly, the steps followed when using the a/c :
1. Switch on fan at full - with windows open. THis will expel most of the hot air from inside the car.
2. Leave the windows open for atleast 2 minutes. In your case, since you dont have rear blowers / vents, you could leave the rear windows open while keeping front windows closed.
2. A/c compressor can be switched on now, if not already done.
3. Close windows now.

anupmathur · 29th June 2008, 16:38

So the window glasses are already tinted.
Yet cooling is poor?
Hope you are using blower in 'recirculation' mode and not fresh air.

arunforu1 · 4th July 2008, 16:08

Heat sources & insulation of them:
1. Glass area: tint them (you did it already)
2. Roof: take out liner do a layer of thermocol or any foam and refix roof liner, can be done by a normal body mechanic.
3.FIREWALL: the panel between, engine room & passenger compartment. Insulate with the sheet of heat resistant PU foam(very cheap material & do not catch fire), simply paste the sheet on engine side i.e. from bonnet side & cover it with thick alu-foil. If its not possible to fix from bonnet side, fix it on passenger side & dont use alu foil.

rajivanoj · 20th June 2009, 20:11

We are using ceramic wool, also called as thermo ceramic, in our extruder, to minimise heat loss, it helps a lot and insulates heat..it is almost like surgical cotton, around an inch thick, but it is capable to insulate heat upto 1200 degree , can also try asbestos , but its unhealthy.

Am goinf to try the thermal blanket for my bonnet, to insulate from engine heat and better AC efficiency.

you can get that thermal blanket from industrial shop which sells thermocouples, heaters for extruders etc...and its cheap

newcoolgadgets · 21st June 2009, 12:01

I suggest you check the efficiency of the AC first. Even if the air feels cool when you place your hand on the vent, it may not be adequate to cool the cabin. Check the grill temperature with a thermometer, it should go below 7 deg in order to cool the cabin effectively. If it does not, check the refrigerant gas level, check if the AC cooling fins are clean and not clogged.

If you find that the AC is cooling properly, only then you should move on to Heatlon, Sunfilm and other additional methods to further improve the cooling effect.

29th June 2008, 09:54	#1
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Insulating car from external heat hi friends i own a maruti 800 and retrofited an ac . the cooling of ac is good as this can be felt by placing your hand in front of the blower . but as i think the car is not properly insulated from external heat so what material should be used to insulate car from external heat. can i use thermocol or apply aluminium foil over door panel and on the floor. will this help or not.i already have tinted glasses. are there some another materials which can be used . i want the cheapest material as i am going to buy another car in few days .
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29th June 2008, 10:51	#2
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Harry park in the shade! If you really plan on going ahead try heatlon.
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29th June 2008, 11:21	#3
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 3,095 Thanked: 311 Times	Harry, the main problem is the poor insulation of the roof panel. Get some thermocole or heatlon put in there. That alone should help quite a lot.
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29th June 2008, 11:22	#4
dinar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: goa Posts: 1,066 Thanked: 57 Times	Get the car a padding of Heatlon, it cheap and work will [to an extant ].... and gat a good quality film on the windows... heatlon should be put on the roof also to get the thermal insulation your looking for.
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29th June 2008, 11:50	#5
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	roof already a fibre one
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29th June 2008, 12:26	#6
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	Apart from the roof the front windshield also brings in a lot of heat. If you cannot do more to the roof, get tints for your WS.
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29th June 2008, 13:03	#7
sanjayatarizona BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: "God's own Shaap" Posts: 355 Thanked: 10 Times	Buddy, try out the front WS tints IMO they make a very perceptible difference(reduces oncoming glare at night as well). Expensive though as a decent one costs around 2.5K.
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29th June 2008, 16:03	#9
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,242 Thanked: 16,852 Times View My Garage	If you are going to buy a new car in a few days, are you going to continue to have the car ? And importantly, the steps followed when using the a/c : 1. Switch on fan at full - with windows open. THis will expel most of the hot air from inside the car. 2. Leave the windows open for atleast 2 minutes. In your case, since you dont have rear blowers / vents, you could leave the rear windows open while keeping front windows closed. 2. A/c compressor can be switched on now, if not already done. 3. Close windows now. Last edited by condor : 29th June 2008 at 16:04.
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29th June 2008, 16:38	#10
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 3,095 Thanked: 311 Times	So the window glasses are already tinted. Yet cooling is poor? Hope you are using blower in 'recirculation' mode and not fresh air.
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4th July 2008, 16:08	#11
arunforu1 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 254 Thanked: 7 Times	Heat sources & insulation of them: 1. Glass area: tint them (you did it already) 2. Roof: take out liner do a layer of thermocol or any foam and refix roof liner, can be done by a normal body mechanic. 3.FIREWALL: the panel between, engine room & passenger compartment. Insulate with the sheet of heat resistant PU foam(very cheap material & do not catch fire), simply paste the sheet on engine side i.e. from bonnet side & cover it with thick alu-foil. If its not possible to fix from bonnet side, fix it on passenger side & dont use alu foil. Last edited by arunforu1 : 4th July 2008 at 16:09.
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20th June 2009, 20:11	#12
rajivanoj BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 398 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	We are using ceramic wool, also called as thermo ceramic, in our extruder, to minimise heat loss, it helps a lot and insulates heat..it is almost like surgical cotton, around an inch thick, but it is capable to insulate heat upto 1200 degree , can also try asbestos , but its unhealthy. Am goinf to try the thermal blanket for my bonnet, to insulate from engine heat and better AC efficiency. you can get that thermal blanket from industrial shop which sells thermocouples, heaters for extruders etc...and its cheap
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21st June 2009, 12:01	#13
newcoolgadgets BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nagpur Posts: 183 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	I suggest you check the efficiency of the AC first. Even if the air feels cool when you place your hand on the vent, it may not be adequate to cool the cabin. Check the grill temperature with a thermometer, it should go below 7 deg in order to cool the cabin effectively. If it does not, check the refrigerant gas level, check if the AC cooling fins are clean and not clogged. If you find that the AC is cooling properly, only then you should move on to Heatlon, Sunfilm and other additional methods to further improve the cooling effect.
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