What was the average life of your car's brake pads?

asethi · 30th March 2015, 14:36

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Originally Posted by mehargags

Thanks Samba, I was pretty sure Toyota uses Bosch as its an international OEM brand.

While I researched, the aftermarket dealers also "vouch" for RANE, they say all trucks/buses and commercial vehicles use RANE pads. But seriously, I've never heard of RANE ever.

Now the Second Challenge is to find a Genuine Dealer selling Genuine Bosch and other Toyota Parts, and not just Stamped (Thappu) ones.
Please do tell me where to buy them, and also a good reliable mechanic / Workshop to get it fitted.

Thanks.

Just beware of Bosch aftermarket brake pads. I had terrible 2 years with them on my Swift for the screeching sound they make, will make you feel like metal coming off your brake discs. Other than that, the cost is quite low & performance good enough.

rrsteer · 30th March 2015, 14:55

I changed Innova's brake pads for the second time at the time of 85k check up service. Roughly the average lifespan has worked out to be 42k kms for me. Which is about 10-15% more than my previous vehicle Tata Safari.

abhi182 · 30th March 2015, 16:32

32K and the front brake pads on my X1 are showing due for replacement in 600kms while the rears have another 8K kms left
Ordered the part (Pads and sensor) from a Delhi based store for 3200 + 1000 + shipping vs the 27K (part + labor) quoted by the ASC

sdp1975 · 30th March 2015, 16:44

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Originally Posted by abhi182

32K and the front brake pads on my X1 are showing due for replacement in 600kms while the rears have another 8K kms left
Ordered the part (Pads and sensor) from a Delhi based store for 3200 + 1000 + shipping vs the 27K (part + labor) quoted by the ASC

With a 8x price difference, I guess the pads are not OEM ?

abhi182 · 30th March 2015, 16:49

They are OEM - Textar to be precise which are quite well rated on all online stores
I believe there are 3/4 different OEM suppliers to BMW including Textar, Pagid and Jurid
(well, can only comment on the authenticity of the part once I receive it)
Also, its not really a 8x price difference - The 27K cost would include Brake oil change and labor which at the ASC inflated rates would be close to 8-10L
Third party workshop would be approx 2-3K

mehargags · 30th March 2015, 17:24

Guyz -- can anyone recommend which ones to buy ? -- Rane or Bosch.

Asethi... even the Mechanic said Bosch are not as good an RANE or TVS.
Checked some more Worskhops, they said TVS and Rane are both better than Bosch!

Anyone successfully using Rane or TVS Pads and Shoes on Toyota Vehicles ?

McTurbo · 17th April 2015, 23:56

BHPians,
I just went in for a check up for my Innova after the right side (both wheels) plunged into an open drain

. After the mud washed off, the A. S. S. continued their regular check up and finds everything ok. Later the SA calls up to tell me that the break pads are at 2MM and needs replacement. The odo is at 32500 and I was taken aback to hear this, as the last regular service at 31200 recorded the break pads at 3.5MM. It was unbelievable that I became such an horrible driver after the last service, that I burnt out a full 1.5MM off the pads in 1000 odd run

. Surprisingly, the rear break shoes are at consistent 4MM right from 25K service (Ref: Service logs). S. A. says that this would run another 2K (Obvious Q - then why change now? Ans: To save your disks)
Question: Should I be suspecting some scam as the pads and the discs appear much older than they went in? Can't confirm this as I wasn't ready for this, else would have kept a snap or made some identification marks. Is there any markings on these parts like a stamped manufacturing date by which we can verify? Any one experienced similar situation? Any suggestions?

Rahul Rao · 22nd April 2015, 14:43

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Originally Posted by McTurbo

After the mud washed off, the A. S. S. continued their regular check up and finds everything ok. Later the SA calls up to tell me that the break pads are at 2MM and needs replacement. The odo is at 32500 and I was taken aback to hear this, as the last regular service at 31200 recorded the break pads at 3.5MM. It was unbelievable that I became such an horrible driver after the last service, that I burnt out a full 1.5MM off the pads in 1000 odd run

What was the distance driven after the dip in the drain, and the wash.
Sand or mud between disks, and pads can wear them off in a jiffy.

Rahul

McTurbo · 24th April 2015, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Rahul Rao

What was the distance driven after the dip in the drain, and the wash.
Rahul

Well, hardly it was a 2 km ride to the service center. Also, the left side has not gone into the mud. That side was on solid tarmac all the while; but those break pads are also worn out to the same level, if that helps.

adimicra · 24th April 2015, 12:57

Going through the posts on this thread, it seems to me that the average life of the front brake pads in somewhere between 35-50K KMS. I got mine replaced around 35K but the rear ones are still going fine. It costed me around 3.2K (only the front ones) at Honda ASC.

Also, it seems the Maruti cars' brake pads seem to last the longest and the replacement cost is ridiculously low compared to any other brands. Can anyone please shed some more light on this? Is Maruti supplying cheap brake pads which lack bite and/or feel? Or, the other brands looting us? Just curious!

lapis_lazuli · 24th April 2015, 13:09

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Originally Posted by asethi

Bosch....screeching sound they make, will make you feel like metal coming off...

IMHO this could happen with any make if during the pads change they do not apply enough molybdenum grease on the corners and the mating face (of course not the disk side

) towards the caliper sides. It damps out the acoustic resonances. You might want to do this, and retry!

asethi · 24th April 2015, 13:31

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Originally Posted by lapis_lazuli

IMHO this could happen with any make if during the pads change they do not apply enough molybdenum grease on the corners and the mating face (of course not the disk side

) towards the caliper sides. It damps out the acoustic resonances. You might want to do this, and retry!

I didn't try that but this sound completely vanished when I replaced the Bosch pads with OE pads.
And both of them (Bosch & OE pads) were replaced at same MASS.

sagarpadaki · 24th April 2015, 13:53

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Originally Posted by McTurbo

Well, hardly it was a 2 km ride to the service center. Also, the left side has not gone into the mud. That side was on solid tarmac all the while; but those break pads are also worn out to the same level, if that helps.

Well the service center might have done a mistake while measuring it the first time and may have wrongly read it as 3.5mm instead of 2.5mm

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Originally Posted by adimicra

Going through the posts on this thread, it seems to me that the average life of the front brake pads in somewhere between 35-50K KMS. I got mine replaced around 35K but the rear ones are still going fine. It costed me around 3.2K (only the front ones) at Honda ASC.

Also, it seems the Maruti cars' brake pads seem to last the longest and the replacement cost is ridiculously low compared to any other brands. Can anyone please shed some more light on this? Is Maruti supplying cheap brake pads which lack bite and/or feel? Or, the other brands looting us? Just curious!

Yes , Maruti brake pads are designed towards longevity. The swift has wooden brakes mainly because of the hard brake pads. My friend replaced his first set @ 50K kms even though moderate driver.In i20 diesel, average life is 20-25K kms. Besides i have noticed that the Maruti brake pads do not dust much at all compared to i20.Now high end brake pads(ceramic) also do not dust. But Maruti's is not high end and this less dusting is a sign that brakes designed hard

Rahul Rao · 24th April 2015, 17:39

At close to 45000 I'm still using OE brake pads in my Polo, my previous Innova had front pads changed at about 80,000 first time, and they had suggested a change during next service when it was 1,60,000 but I sold the car before that.

Rahul

VKM · 12th August 2015, 12:59

Hey Guys
Need your expert inputs. Recently started hearing a noise from the right wheel especially in the 10-30kmph speeds, vehicle computer check showed nothing but anyway went to the service centre.
upon inspection found that the right disc & brake pad were totally damaged other discs fine, rear brake pads were a little worn out.
so they changed the front discs and all four brake pads and for good measure the sensor cable was changed too.
what are the possible causes of one disc getting damaged, how can it be avoided?
is it necessary to have changed the sensor cable too? (sorry if these are noob questions)
here are the pictures:

30th March 2015, 14:55	#227
rrsteer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 144022 Posts: 1,263 Thanked: 3,418 Times	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? I changed Innova's brake pads for the second time at the time of 85k check up service. Roughly the average lifespan has worked out to be 42k kms for me. Which is about 10-15% more than my previous vehicle Tata Safari.
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abhi182 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 377 Thanked: 535 Times View My Garage	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? 32K and the front brake pads on my X1 are showing due for replacement in 600kms while the rears have another 8K kms left Ordered the part (Pads and sensor) from a Delhi based store for 3200 + 1000 + shipping vs the 27K (part + labor) quoted by the ASC
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abhi182 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 377 Thanked: 535 Times View My Garage	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? They are OEM - Textar to be precise which are quite well rated on all online stores I believe there are 3/4 different OEM suppliers to BMW including Textar, Pagid and Jurid (well, can only comment on the authenticity of the part once I receive it) Also, its not really a 8x price difference - The 27K cost would include Brake oil change and labor which at the ASC inflated rates would be close to 8-10L Third party workshop would be approx 2-3K Last edited by abhi182 : 30th March 2015 at 16:51.
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mehargags Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 17 Thanked: 4 Times	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? Guyz -- can anyone recommend which ones to buy ? -- Rane or Bosch. Asethi... even the Mechanic said Bosch are not as good an RANE or TVS. Checked some more Worskhops, they said TVS and Rane are both better than Bosch! Anyone *successfully* using Rane or TVS Pads and Shoes on Toyota Vehicles ?
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McTurbo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bangalore Posts: 48 Thanked: 18 Times	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? BHPians, I just went in for a check up for my Innova after the right side (both wheels) plunged into an open drain . After the mud washed off, the A. S. S. continued their regular check up and finds everything ok. Later the SA calls up to tell me that the break pads are at 2MM and needs replacement. The odo is at 32500 and I was taken aback to hear this, as the last regular service at 31200 recorded the break pads at 3.5MM. It was unbelievable that I became such an horrible driver after the last service, that I burnt out a full 1.5MM off the pads in 1000 odd run . Surprisingly, the rear break shoes are at consistent 4MM right from 25K service (Ref: Service logs). S. A. says that this would run another 2K (Obvious Q - then why change now? Ans: To save your disks) Question: Should I be suspecting some scam as the pads and the discs appear much older than they went in? Can't confirm this as I wasn't ready for this, else would have kept a snap or made some identification marks. Is there any markings on these parts like a stamped manufacturing date by which we can verify? Any one experienced similar situation? Any suggestions?
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24th April 2015, 12:57	#235
adimicra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,011 Thanked: 2,496 Times	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? Going through the posts on this thread, it seems to me that the average life of the front brake pads in somewhere between 35-50K KMS. I got mine replaced around 35K but the rear ones are still going fine. It costed me around 3.2K (only the front ones) at Honda ASC. Also, it seems the Maruti cars' brake pads seem to last the longest and the replacement cost is ridiculously low compared to any other brands. Can anyone please shed some more light on this? Is Maruti supplying cheap brake pads which lack bite and/or feel? Or, the other brands looting us? Just curious! Last edited by adimicra : 24th April 2015 at 12:58.
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Rahul Rao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Pune Posts: 1,134 Thanked: 2,639 Times	re: What was the average life of your car's brake pads? At close to 45000 I'm still using OE brake pads in my Polo, my previous Innova had front pads changed at about 80,000 first time, and they had suggested a change during next service when it was 1,60,000 but I sold the car before that. Rahul
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12th August 2015, 12:59	#240
VKM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: chennai Posts: 48 Thanked: 25 Times	BMW 530d brake disc and pad replaced at 13000kms Hey Guys Need your expert inputs. Recently started hearing a noise from the right wheel especially in the 10-30kmph speeds, vehicle computer check showed nothing but anyway went to the service centre. upon inspection found that the right disc & brake pad were totally damaged other discs fine, rear brake pads were a little worn out. so they changed the front discs and all four brake pads and for good measure the sensor cable was changed too. what are the possible causes of one disc getting damaged, how can it be avoided? is it necessary to have changed the sensor cable too? (sorry if these are noob questions) here are the pictures: Attached Thumbnails
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