Swift - Wheel Discs and Brake Pad problems

ravi23 · 21st November 2007, 18:53

I gave my Swift for First Paid service with Bimal (because i had bought from them and had a good experience for all the free services), but the guy calls me at 5 Pm today and starts telling me that the front discs and brake pads are totally worn out and needs to be replaced which will cost 5K and also he says the Clutch assembly also to be replaced which is another 5K plus the full service cost of 3K.

I have asked the Bimal guys to put back the old ones and have checked with a mechanic in rajajinagar who has agreed to check the Discs (if they can be faced) or replace with the new ones. Iam taking my vehicle to rajajinagar tomorrow morning and will post my experience.

My doubt, when do we need to replace the Discs and Brake pads ?(my vehicle has done 35K)
is it common that after this much of kms the Discs get worn out and the price quoted by these guys are correct or high.

Also, what steps need to be taken in avoiding more wear n tear of the Discs and Brake pads.

Thanks in Advance
Ravi

anonymous · 21st November 2007, 19:00

I will let experts to help you out but the one thing I know that you have posted this thread in wrong section.
Mods :- Please do the needful

ported_head · 21st November 2007, 19:03

Isn't the first paid service at 20k kms? Brake pads can wear out by 35k kms. There is no thumb rule really. It depends how you drive, in what conditions you drive. Price doesn't seem off, since I remember reading that Swift brake pads cost around 3.5k or so. Plus labour. Get discs skimmed for new brake pads.

Do you think there is something wrong with your clutch? Loss of power or FE? If not, don't change. If you need to it will cost around 7k.

BUSA · 21st November 2007, 19:06

Brake pads might need change but discs certainly dont.

Also Swift Petrols do tend to loose their clutch early.

ajmat · 21st November 2007, 19:11

35k is in line for new brake pads - not sure about discs though

Clutch - get a second opinion and ask why they say so!

rohan_fonseca · 21st November 2007, 19:53

Is that the first time you are getting your car serviced after 10k?

addyhemmige · 17th February 2010, 12:13

Guys, I had given my Swift diesel for service today. the service advisor just called and told me that the disc brake pads have completely worn out. my car has run 35k and from what I have seen from this thread, I see that it is normal. But, the shocker is the price. The SA says that it will cost around 3k + labour. But one of my friends who owns a Swift Lxi says that he paid around 1.5k for his brake pads.

Are the brake pads different for the Petrol & Diesel variants of the swift? is 3k the right price of the brake pads?

lalitk25 · 3rd July 2010, 08:46

Yesterday My father got the disc pads changed from aftermarket and it was only 660 Rs now looking at the MGA price i am little worried what they have put in there.. As I am in mumbai for 2 weeks will go back and check if things are fine? My swift has covered 29K kms.

humyum · 3rd July 2010, 10:31

I got mine changed for 1700 bucks at the MASS. Tell us the name of the company they were of when you find out !

lalitk25 · 3rd July 2010, 10:34

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Originally Posted by humyum

I got mine changed for 1700 bucks at the MASS. Tell us the name of the company they were of when you find out !

You have diesel or petrol swift? becasue I have read in the same forum that price for both differ quite significantly. For swift diesel price for break pads is around 3500......

humyum · 3rd July 2010, 10:48

Diesel. The prices of brake pads have reduced.

lalitk25 · 3rd July 2010, 11:51

ok thanks...... Will let you now the brand one I am back........ one q. left is if there is any difference in diesel or petrol swift break pads as the aftermarket dealer said there is no difference and MASS charges it differently for no reason......

anachronix · 3rd July 2010, 12:08

Are you all serious about the 3K figure for the brake pads?

Is that not too expensive?

I recently paid 1300 for my Fiesta's brake pads! I think it should be costing less for the Swift!

vikram_d · 3rd July 2010, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalitk25

Yesterday My father got the disc pads changed from aftermarket and it was only 660 Rs now looking at the MGA price i am little worried what they have put in there.. As I am in mumbai for 2 weeks will go back and check if things are fine? My swift has covered 29K kms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalitk25

ok thanks...... Will let you now the brand one I am back........ one q. left is if there is any difference in diesel or petrol swift break pads as the aftermarket dealer said there is no difference and MASS charges it differently for no reason......

The Rs. 660 brake pads are fake or local pads if you want to call them that. A friend of mine put similar pads on his Swift and they did not even last 5k kms.

According to my MASS source there is no difference between the petrol & diesel version brake pads. Also they cost the same. The current price for both is around Rs. 1600:00.

ghpk · 3rd July 2010, 15:06

Rs.660 brake pads are certainly cheap brand in aftermarket, its not only bad for discs but also a life threatening risk to drive with such non-reliable pads.

One can always go for Bosch Brake pads, they are certainly one of the best in industry and gives very good braking.

I've them in my santro although H.A.S.S. said they are not good OEM ones are best.
I am sure Bosch pads should not been so hated by A.S.S.

Edit: my Bosch Brake Pads Pics in this thread

21st November 2007, 18:53	#1
ravi23 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	Swift - Wheel Discs and Brake Pad problems I gave my Swift for First Paid service with Bimal (because i had bought from them and had a good experience for all the free services), but the guy calls me at 5 Pm today and starts telling me that the front discs and brake pads are totally worn out and needs to be replaced which will cost 5K and also he says the Clutch assembly also to be replaced which is another 5K plus the full service cost of 3K. I have asked the Bimal guys to put back the old ones and have checked with a mechanic in rajajinagar who has agreed to check the Discs (if they can be faced) or replace with the new ones. Iam taking my vehicle to rajajinagar tomorrow morning and will post my experience. My doubt, when do we need to replace the Discs and Brake pads ?(my vehicle has done 35K) is it common that after this much of kms the Discs get worn out and the price quoted by these guys are correct or high. Also, what steps need to be taken in avoiding more wear n tear of the Discs and Brake pads. Thanks in Advance Ravi
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21st November 2007, 19:00	#2
anonymous BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NCR Posts: 564 Thanked: 26 Times	I will let experts to help you out but the one thing I know that you have posted this thread in wrong section. Mods :- Please do the needful
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21st November 2007, 19:03	#3
ported_head Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,381 Thanked: 21 Times	Isn't the first paid service at 20k kms? Brake pads can wear out by 35k kms. There is no thumb rule really. It depends how you drive, in what conditions you drive. Price doesn't seem off, since I remember reading that Swift brake pads cost around 3.5k or so. Plus labour. Get discs skimmed for new brake pads. Do you think there is something wrong with your clutch? Loss of power or FE? If not, don't change. If you need to it will cost around 7k.
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21st November 2007, 19:06	#4
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,127 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Brake pads might need change but discs certainly dont. Also Swift Petrols do tend to loose their clutch early. Last edited by BUSA : 21st November 2007 at 19:09.
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21st November 2007, 19:11	#5
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,177 Thanked: 31,077 Times View My Garage	35k is in line for new brake pads - not sure about discs though Clutch - get a second opinion and ask why they say so!
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21st November 2007, 19:53	#6
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Is that the first time you are getting your car serviced after 10k?
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17th February 2010, 12:13	#7
addyhemmige Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore/Hassan Posts: 1,527 Thanked: 490 Times View My Garage	Guys, I had given my Swift diesel for service today. the service advisor just called and told me that the disc brake pads have completely worn out. my car has run 35k and from what I have seen from this thread, I see that it is normal. But, the shocker is the price. The SA says that it will cost around 3k + labour. But one of my friends who owns a Swift Lxi says that he paid around 1.5k for his brake pads. Are the brake pads different for the Petrol & Diesel variants of the swift? is 3k the right price of the brake pads?
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3rd July 2010, 08:46	#8
lalitk25 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria Germany Posts: 190 Thanked: 8 Times	Yesterday My father got the disc pads changed from aftermarket and it was only 660 Rs now looking at the MGA price i am little worried what they have put in there.. As I am in mumbai for 2 weeks will go back and check if things are fine? My swift has covered 29K kms.
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3rd July 2010, 10:31	#9
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,825 Thanked: 5,848 Times	I got mine changed for 1700 bucks at the MASS. Tell us the name of the company they were of when you find out !
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3rd July 2010, 10:48	#11
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,825 Thanked: 5,848 Times	Diesel. The prices of brake pads have reduced.
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3rd July 2010, 11:51	#12
lalitk25 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria Germany Posts: 190 Thanked: 8 Times	ok thanks...... Will let you now the brand one I am back........ one q. left is if there is any difference in diesel or petrol swift break pads as the aftermarket dealer said there is no difference and MASS charges it differently for no reason......
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3rd July 2010, 12:08	#13
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	Are you all serious about the 3K figure for the brake pads? Is that not too expensive? I recently paid 1300 for my Fiesta's brake pads! I think it should be costing less for the Swift!
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3rd July 2010, 15:06	#15
ghpk BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 872 Thanked: 212 Times	Rs.660 brake pads are certainly cheap brand in aftermarket, its not only bad for discs but also a life threatening risk to drive with such non-reliable pads. One can always go for Bosch Brake pads, they are certainly one of the best in industry and gives very good braking. I've them in my santro although H.A.S.S. said they are not good OEM ones are best. I am sure Bosch pads should not been so hated by A.S.S. Edit: my Bosch Brake Pads Pics in this thread Last edited by ghpk : 3rd July 2010 at 15:18.
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