[greenhorn]

are you looking for this just to connect your rear speakers back?

[kcj3b]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

are you looking for this just to connect your rear speakers back?

Yes Sir, the rear parcel tray speaker

[greenhorn]

I can't find it in the manual, but there is a trial and error method that I usually use.

There will be 4 wires coming out, and two of them will have some sort of extra line to mark one polarity (usually positive, but let's not assume that yet).

Now the trick to use here is using your ears to determine if the phase of speakers is correct or not. When two speakers are in phase, when you listen to both, the sound will sound like it's coming from the centre, and if you adjust the balance, the sound will move smoothly from one, to the centre point between them, and to the other. The bass will be maximum when both speakers are playing. I don't have an example with me right now, let me see if i can find one.


Anyway, I'm assuming that your car stereo has fader and balance controls.

Connect the speakers, each speaker to one set of similar wires - one marked, one unmarked, and with the same polarity.


Ideally the + should be connected to the marked one, but I've seen installers do all sorts of weird stuff, so the best bet is to go by ear.
Set fader to 100% rear, and then change balance from left to right. If both speakers keep playing all the time, swap one set of identical terminals between the speakers. Either the marked ones, or the unmarked ones. Now the sound will move from one speaker to the next and back. Now check if the right and left are connected correctly. If not, swap both pairs of connections.

Now that your speakers are connected correctly, play some bass heavy music and pan to left and right, and notice the way sound changes, Now reverse the polarity of one of the speakers, and pan again. You'll notice that in one of these cases, the bass improves at 0 balance, while in the other, the bass will be less. The correct version is when the bass improves at 0 balance.

Now that your rear left/right phase is consistent, time to check front to back. Set balance to 0 and change fader from front to back. Does the bass improve, or just the rest of the sound get louder? If you're not sure, swap the polarity on BOTH rear speakers and try again if there is some improvement. Choose the one that sounds better with fader set to zero, or whatever bias you usually use.

Your speakers are now ready to sing!

I do this check every time i get a car back from service. The service center idiots wire speakers randomly, and you'd be surprised if you have a set of underperforming speakers.

[BLACK1]

Hello everybody. My 2002 model Indica DLS done 123000 kms is leaking engine oil. I have changed the oil sump gasket but the issue still persists. I am suspecting that the oil is leaking into the flywheel cover due to failed seal and then the same is leaking onto the floor. Also the leakage occurs only when the engine is running. Has anybody encountered such problem. If so then please clear my suspicion.

Thanks in advance.

[a4anurag]

Hello guys,

Though I don't own this car, just curious with it as I have been seeing it in this condition since 1.8 years.

I have no idea when the car was bought etc. The car is actually an emergency vehicle that is parked in the company I work for. It gets a fair usage though.

Yesterday due to emergency I had to take the car out and what I saw was surprising to my eyes.

'Check Engine' light is ON and not one soul is bothered.



The odo currently reads 2,91,554 kms but still has the CEL ON.

The driver who uses this says that it is ON since 1.8 years and has clocked around 1 lakh kms with that light ON. I was

Can someone tell me what is the use of the light when the car is still running and when I did drive it the engine felt normal. As per the driver the FE it returns is 16 kmpl on average IMO is decent.

What could be the damage that the internals are going through every time the car is driven with the CEL ON?

[drsingh]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Hello guys,

Though I don't own this car, just curious with it as I have been seeing it in this condition since 1.8 years.

I have no idea when the car was bought etc. The car is actually an emergency vehicle that is parked in the company I work for. It gets a fair usage though.

Yesterday due to emergency I had to take the car out and what I saw was surprising to my eyes.

'Check Engine' light is ON and not one soul is bothered.

The odo currently reads 2,91,554 kms but still has the CEL ON.

The driver who uses this says that it is ON since 1.8 years and has clocked around 1 lakh kms with that light ON. I was

Can someone tell me what is the use of the light when the car is still running and when I did drive it the engine felt normal. As per the driver the FE it returns is 16 kmpl on average IMO is decent.

What could be the damage that the internals are going through every time the car is driven with the CEL ON?

It is a very robust engine. Can take all kinds of abuse. My guess - some sensor has gone kaput.

Any excessive smoke? Or loss of power?

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by drsingh

It is a very robust engine. Can take all kinds of abuse. My guess - some sensor has gone kaput.

Any excessive smoke? Or loss of power?

None at all.

There is no smoke even when the RPM is at 3500.

I have not much idea how the Indica drives as I haven't driven much of these engines so can't take a stand on power loss. But with my total driving experience, the Indica did respond to throttle inputs normally.

So just curious as to what would be Hong on inside.

[deep_bang]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Hello guys,
What could be the damage that the internals are going through every time the car is driven with the CEL ON?

Cant say without attaching an OBD device. It could be any malfunction but typically I have seen the O2 sensor malfunction cause this in several Indicas. I am not sure if disconnecting the battery resets this but you could try and see. If it does reset and it comes back again after some time it definitely means the malfunction is still existing.

[lurker]

is this a quadrajet or a DLS TDI ? Also is it BS3 or is it BS4 engine ?

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by deep_bang

Cant say without attaching an OBD device. It could be any malfunction but typically I have seen the O2 sensor malfunction cause this in several Indicas. I am not sure if disconnecting the battery resets this but you could try and see. If it does reset and it comes back again after some time it definitely means the malfunction is still existing.

Will hook the car onto OBD as I have one and what comes out from the scanner.

Originally Posted by lurker

is this a quadrajet or a DLS TDI ? Also is it BS3 or is it BS4 engine ?

Not the QJD definitely. It could be the TDi, older version.

The car looks neat from outside but the underpinning are the worst maintained I suppose.

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Tyres are nearly bald, wheel alignment, balancing and rotation are terms that the owner has never heard off and never done on the car.

When the steering is on full lock (either sides) the car wants to go straight but the tyres are pointing the direction with high resistance to turn. You can feel that the body is pulling straight but the tyres are forcing the car to turn.

The another thing that I forgot to mention was the Temperature gauge - It sits at 'H' if driven more than 10 kms. Anything below 10 kms it is at 'half' position.

I was feeling sad to see it in such a state but can't help much as the owner of the car says why spend money on a dead old car. It is running, let it run till it breaks down.

[Swapnil4585]

It looks to be a problem associated with the glow plugs. Do you find the car difficult to start?
I had this problem in my Indigo, the Check Engine light used to glow even while driving. There was no apparent fault with the performance of the car, just that the starts were difficult. I inspected the glow plugs, 2 had gone bad. Replaced them and the problem was gone.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Swapnil4585

It looks to be a problem associated with the glow plugs. Do you find the car difficult to start?

I had this problem in my Indigo, the Check Engine light used to glow even while driving. There was no apparent fault with the performance of the car, just that the starts were difficult. I inspected the glow plugs, 2 had gone bad. Replaced them and the problem was gone.

Starting is no problem but does take a bit longer cranking time. Battery is a problem here.

I did talk to the owner once more to get it checked and cleared but he is not wanting to waste money on it. I am helpless!

[Swapnil4585]

A niggling issue with the gear box -

Around a month back, I had taken my car (TDi Indigo) to my trusted mechanic for a clutch plate replacement job. At that time, I was told that the pressure plate in the Original clutch set does not fit on the TDi Indigo, and hence the old pressure plate will be fished and fitted back. So, essentially, just the clutch plates were changed.

The job was completed and I got the car back. Upon driving her in city for 2-3 days, I noticed that the power had noticeably increased and so the fuel efficiency. But from the 4th day onwards, I found slotting gear numbers 1, 3 and 5 difficult. Took it to the garage and found that the clutch cable had come lose, and was interfering in the process of gear shifts. The cable was fixed, and the problem was gone. Now the gear shifts were easy and sure slotting.

Now the problem part. I had been to a 1000 kilometer trip. During the trip, I discovered that the 5th gear would slip and would come into neutral. I decided to drive the car as is (4th gear), and show it to my mechanic once I return home, rather than showing it to anybody unknown. Once in garage, the 5th gear (as per the mechanic, 5th gear on Indigo is located outside the gearbox, hence opening entire GB is not required) was opened and the outer ring was replaced. Even after this replacement, the problem persists. What could be the solution to this?

[Swapnil4585]

Guys, any particular solution on the problem of 5th gear popping into neutral?

[msaudf]

Originally Posted by Swapnil4585

Guys, any particular solution on the problem of 5th gear popping into neutral?

The shift linkage bushings could be worn out, or might just need a good lubrication. I'd try to spray some WD40.
The reason I ask to first try spraying WD40 is that in many cases the fifth gear is the least used gear with city driven cars and dust and grime could be restricting full leverage.
It could but rarely be the linkage bushings, and that can be easily diagnosed by checking the free play of the shift lever.