[aviator1101]

RE was notorious for carrying out R&D on it's customers. Since when did MSIL join that gang?

On a serious note, I don't see any logic in performing experiments to prove a point in case an unusual problem has already been detected, which I'm sure prop shaft rubbing underbelly is.

Though I partially agree with jeroen's suggestion, I have my serious doubts as to what the outcome will be. The shaft should have adequate clearance when stationary unless insanely loaded. It is during movement, when the shockers further compress, the clearance would reduce and maybe touch the underbelly, which would be difficult to make out unless some cam etc is fitted to monitor that exact contact point.

The cause of concern is how would this affect the structural integrity of the shaft given that it's under constant twisting force.

Thanks samba for sharing it here. At least I, as a prospective customer, would wait and watch MSIL's response.

[GTO]

It's an issue for sure, but one that only occurs under extreme conditions. Am guessing most owners won't even notice. Regardless, knowing Maruti, they'll roll out a fix for all cars (existing & new).

Offroaders are special-purpose vehicles that are engineered to handle extreme conditions...conditions that a road car like a Creta or Honda City never will see. They require extreme engineering & a different kind of manufacturing skill for that. Not too different from building a track car.

Problems happen, what's important is the solution. I don't see this to be as big an issue as Maruti's dangerous steering behaviour (Why the heck will Maruti-Suzuki not fix its defective & dangerous steering behaviour?).

[Kosfactor]

Are the rear bump stops okay? I would imagine a longer bump stop would fix the problem.

Its too early for any other part of the suspension to wear out.

[arghyaheart]

Originally Posted by Jeroen

You say the car was driven with only four persons. But apparently you did not hear it? So something else might have happened.

Well, my car's propeller shaft does not have any unusual mark but sometimes I hear a sound which, to me, does not appear to be normal. This sound is heard mostly when going uphill and seldom on plain roads. It is limited to 1st gear only, irrespective of 2H/4H/4L Modes. As far as I have observed it, it has no relation with the load in the car. This particular sound is widely reported by Jimny owners across the country and apparantly MSIL says it is functional.

Attaching a YouTube link where the sound has been captured by my car's dashcam:

https://youtu.be/KlikEs6yGOc?si=roTIBJ6Owq9AqrL4

[MahindraThor]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

RE was notorious for carrying out R&D on it's customers. Since when did MSIL join that gang?

On a serious note, I don't see any logic in performing experiments to prove a point in case an unusual problem has already been detected, which I'm sure prop shaft rubbing underbelly is.

As a prospective buyer of Jimny, I am keenly following the Jimny threads. The prop shaft rubbing the cross member is obviously a concern for substantial offroaders unlike me.

A query tickles my mind since Samba shared the issue, if lifting Jimny (40mm on front and rear), turning to solve the issue. I am just sitting on the fence whether to go for Jimny right now as one MY23 is available with 2.5 lac discount or wait for this niggle to get resolved by MSIL and then buy.

Cheers

[scorpian]

Originally Posted by MahindraThor

As a prospective buyer of Jimny, I am keenly following the Jimny threads. The prop shaft rubbing the cross member is obviously a concern for substantial offroaders unlike me.

2.5lakhs is substantial discount. I would say go for it. As for the solution I am sure Maruti will find one and won't leave it's current Jimny owners just like that. It will tarnish their image big time. Don't think MSIL would take that risk.

[gsferrari]

Originally Posted by MahindraThor

if lifting Jimny (40mm on front and rear), turning to solve the issue.

Suspension lift vehicles are also affected.
In my group, one Jimny with 40mm tough dog also has the prop shaft bangle. This vehicle was lifted on day zero.

[Jimmyjimmyaaja]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

Are the rear bump stops okay? I would imagine a longer bump stop would fix the problem.

Its too early for any other part of the suspension to wear out.

I was given the same suggestion on reddit by alarmed_cumin
The user had given this advice -

"Nope, that's different, and probably the result of the different driveshaft angle from the rear driveshaft being longer. Interesting. Hadn't yet seen that here.

The crossmember I refer to is actually for the front propshaft and sits below it, rather than above it. That one getting hit would be at full bump not full droop. That specific issue you highlight in that post would be fixable with slightly extended rear bump stops, which can be easily achieved with something as simple as a bit of plastic bolted to the flat plates on the top of the rear axle (at each side of the vehicle). This will mean that the car won't ever get to full bump to hit like that."

[Kali123]

Hello guys,

I have been to Dharamshala on a Vipassana trip. We were a group of five people; upon reaching Dharamkot, the elevation was steep, and we were driving 4*4 low. The smell of burning rubber/paint came from outside, and a grinding noise came from the car's underbelly. We examined the tyres, etc., but everything was fine. After our 10-day Vipassana, we examined the car all over, but there was no sign of any wear/tear.

Upon arrival, the first thing I did was take it to the Nexa service centre. Nothing as such (I was suspicious of an oil leak or something). I raised this issue on numerous Jimny owner groups on FB and WhatsApp, and nobody encountered anything like that. Then I googled and came across this thread. First of all big shout to OP for putting this thread. The smell was of shaft grinding with underbelly. Since I did rust protection rubber paint, it must have heated up, hence the smell. It was not an extreme elevation, but it still occurred, which was really disappointing.

I will retake it to Nexa and then correctly document. How do I report it to Maruti? I am based in Haryana.

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by Kali123

the elevation was steep, and we were driving 4*4 low. The smell of burning rubber/paint came from outside, and a grinding noise came from the car's underbelly.

I hope you know you are never supposed to drive the car on a Tarmac on 4x4 Low and you haven't driven too much. This might be from your differential or related components.

[Samba]

Originally Posted by arghyaheart

Attaching a YouTube link where the sound has been captured by my car's dashcam:

https://Youtu.be/KlikEs6yGOc?si=roTIBJ6Owq9AqrL4

Originally Posted by Kali123

We were a group of five people; upon reaching Dharamkot, the elevation was steep....
and a grinding noise came from the car's underbelly.

Please hear the sound from the above link shared by Bhphian arghyaheart. Was this the same sound you heard from your car? If so, then it is a functional sound and most Jimny owners are aware of it. It is there in the 3-door Jimnys too. It generally comes in 1st gear on an incline, in 2wd as well as 4wd.

We have checked the propellor shaft of the Jimny whose video I have shared above, and that Jimny does not have any marks on its propellor shaft despite making this sound.

From your post, the key highlights for the marks should be -
5 people = Over Load.
Steep road = That will require articulation on hairpin bends.

Originally Posted by Turbanator

I hope you know you are never supposed to drive the car on a Tarmac on 4x4 Low and you haven't driven too much. This might be from your differential or related components.

As suggested by Turbanator, please do not use 4x4 on the tarmac. This will do more harm than good.

Originally Posted by gsferrari

A more realistic expectation can be to hear from Maruti in a few months with some sort of recall to install be parts that fix this issue. We should also not be surprised to hear complete silence. Anything is possible.

I called my service center a couple of days back, to on whether they got any updates or not. As usual, it's radio silence from their end.

[Kali123]

Thanks for letting me know; I wasn't aware of that. However, the sound I experienced was not the whining of the engine, as in the sound clip. Instead, it was the proper sound of grinding between the underbody and propeller shaft. The sound occurs when metal parts rub or grind together. Is there a way to file a complaint with Maruti about this serious issue, as it affects the reliability of the vehicle?"

[arghyaheart]

Is there a way to file a complaint with Maruti about this serious issue, as it affects the reliability of the vehicle?"

Bhpian Samba & gsferrari have already brought this matter to MSIL's notice. The best you can do is, you can lodge an official complaint on this at your service center so this complaint gets documented from your side as well. If all the complaints are going to MSIL through different service centers across the county, we can hope they will do something to resolve the matter. If MSIL comes up with a resolution, we can hope they will first recall the cars with the affected VIN numbers, who have documented their complaints first.

[motorguy]

Any update from Maruti as to the rectification of this issue?

[DogNDamsel12]

Originally Posted by motorguy

Any update from Maruti as to the rectification of this issue?

We keep inquiring for the update at the service center where we have lodged the complaint, the standard reply is - they will get back to us, once MSIL gives them a solution. The service centres in this case are totally helpless, unless they get some solution from MSIL.

If MSIL is taking time to redesign any component and sort it out, then it is acceptable. This same car is going to Australia / South Africa, from the same manufacturing unit. Once they notice this issue, it wont’t be a good thing for the export market. So we hope MSIL is serious about it, and won't not take action.