[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

Just confirmed and upsizing in terms of diameter is not encouraged it seems. Other than that I felt skeptical as I did not want to scrape so went with same. Also the old tyers two of them had small bumps and caused car to wobble during slow drives, so changed all of them to 165/60 R12, ground clearance is now less but overall handling is improved, less wheel spin too!

Personally you opted for right decision with your alloys and rubber on it. But about the wheel spin I have not encountered such issue as of now be it on tarmac, snow or on mild gravel. But yes it have increased a little bit ground clearance.
Nothing have been scraped so far neither on fenders or on bumpers except the front mud flaps which I have to remove.

Originally Posted by Pannag

Vivek so sorry for making you wait for wiring diagrams, fact is I forgot how I have connected the wires on motor so need to open tailgate interior cover and check. I will try this Friday.

Not sure if you actually have to open the tailgate. As I have followed a relay diagram shared by one of my friend. It works like a charm. But my concern is totally different here. I'll be sharing the diagram which I have followed.
On the switch I have just one option that is wiper and washer works both together.
I just want the wiper to work independently without washer and on second option it should work with washer. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

On the switch I have just one option that is wiper and washer works both together.
I just want the wiper to work independently without washer and on second option it should work with washer. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

If I am not mistaken you have spacers installed right as for something with holes visible in wheel well from pics you shared?

Which switch are you using?

I have Zen Estilo vxi steering combi switch that comes with all necessary switching logic for independent wiper/washer or both embedded. I guess this week Boodmo also has free delivery on them.

Meanwhile can you share the pic of that switch?

How you plan to implement option 2 BTW? Are you getting new switch for washer or get one switch with two subswitching

You might also have to disconnect the washer motor wire which should be connected on switch together with wiper motor.

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

Not sure if you actually have to open the tailgate. As I have followed a relay diagram shared by one of my friend.

And to say I did not even use relay.

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

If I am not mistaken you have spacers installed right as for something with holes visible in wheel well from pics you shared?

It's not the spacer but it's a rubber buffer which helps better stability while cornering. It doesn't increase the height or anything like that. But personally telling you it's really good to have on front suspensions. You'll be surprised to see the outcome on sharp turns.

Originally Posted by Pannag

Which switch are you using?

I have Zen Estilo vxi steering combi switch that comes with all necessary switching logic for independent wiper/washer or both embedded. I guess this week Boodmo also has free delivery on them.

Meanwhile can you share the pic of that switch?

How you plan to implement option 2 BTW? Are you getting new switch for washer or get one switch with two subswitching


You might also have to disconnect the washer motor wire which should be connected on switch together with wiper motor.




And to say I did not even use relay

I'm using a momentarly switch as of now just like a horn type push button. But planning to switch it over to two way switch.
Moreover I have checked the deal on Boodmo, I have checked my vehicle OEM wiring it doesn't have the wiring on the coupler itself for rear wiper and fog lamps. So switching over to estilo combination can cause a big mess with wiring. So I'm trying to keep things very simple and easy to repair just in case.

Yes the wiper and washer is connected together on pin 87 on the relay. Which makes them work together.
So I want something like front wipers functions on the rear as well.
1. Washer + wiper.
2. Only Wiper intermittent.

Nevertheless it is recommended to use Relay it will keep your wiring and switch safe or going hot. I personally use relays on every additional switch installed be it any vehicle. Most of the local electricians don't use it.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

It's not the spacer but it's a rubber buffer which helps better stability while cornering. It doesn't increase the height or anything like that. But personally telling you it's really good to have on front suspensions. You'll be surprised to see the outcome on sharp turns.



I'm using a momentarly switch as of now just like a horn type push button. But planning to switch it over to two way switch.
Moreover I have checked the deal on Boodmo, I have checked my vehicle OEM wiring it doesn't have the wiring on the coupler itself for rear wiper and fog lamps. So switching over to estilo combination can cause a big mess with wiring. So I'm trying to keep things very simple and easy to repair just in case.

Yes the wiper and washer is connected together on pin 87 on the relay. Which makes them work together.
So I want something like front wipers functions on the rear as well.
1. Washer + wiper.
2. Only Wiper intermittent.

Nevertheless it is recommended to use Relay it will keep your wiring and switch safe or going hot. I personally use relays on every additional switch installed be it any vehicle. Most of the local electricians don't use it.

Can you tell me what brand are those rubber buffers? Looks interesting.

Also about your wiper, Ramon and I have already fitted it and if your Current steering combi switch doesn't have hazard switch, it should be a direct fit. I currently do not have Fog lamps but have left the wires as it is, just added 6 pin coupler for neat wiring. Just to let you know in case, the rear wiper, washer and fog lamps wires directly run from Stalks, so you can modify wires however you want. Why I suggest you this is all necessary logic is already available and you don’t have to tinker around the wire anymore. I took pictures while doing this work but somehow deleted them

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

Can you tell me what brand are those rubber buffers? Looks interesting.

Also about your wiper, Ramon and I have already fitted it and if your Current steering combi switch doesn't have hazard switch, it should be a direct fit. I currently do not have Fog lamps but have left the wires as it is, just added 6 pin coupler for neat wiring. Just to let you know in case, the rear wiper, washer and fog lamps wires directly run from Stalks, so you can modify wires however you want. Why I suggest you this is all necessary logic is already available and you don’t have to tinker around the wire anymore. I took pictures while doing this work but somehow deleted them

Well it's from the Rogers below is the link for the same. Description of the product is something different but it actually doesn't work like that.
However to avoid body roll on Alto, the best way is to have two inch lift from the front. But that's not recommended as it might break or create cracks on the shocker aprons. All this is tested and personally experienced.
The best way to reduce the body roll while cornering are these buffers.

https://www.rogermotors.com/cart

Moreover you can find it on Amazon which might cost you on a discounted price.

I guess the hazard switch is just above the AC vent. If it comes with all the combination switch than that sounds pretty much cool. How about you sharing the link on Boodmo for the combination switch you used. It would be a great help for me not buying the wrong item.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

Well it's from the Rogers below is the link for the same. Description of the product is something different but it actually doesn't work like that.
However to avoid body roll on Alto, the best way is to have two inch lift from the front. But that's not recommended as it might break or create cracks on the shocker aprons. All this is tested and personally experienced.
The best way to reduce the body roll while cornering are these buffers.

https://www.rogermotors.com/cart

Moreover you can find it on Amazon which might cost you on a discounted price.

I guess the hazard switch is just above the AC vent. If it comes with all the combination switch than that sounds pretty much cool. How about you sharing the link on Boodmo for the combination switch you used. It would be a great help for me not buying the wrong item.

Here you go Brother:

https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-SUZU...7KA1-58197737/

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

Here you go Brother:

https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-SUZU...7KA1-58197737/

Thankyou mate. I have a quick question here, there are two additional couplers sticking out of this as compared to the stock combination switch. So what are those ?

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

Thankyou mate. I have a quick question here, there are two additional couplers sticking out of this as compared to the stock combination switch. So what are those ?

The one running down from left stalk is rear wiper and washer. from right its for fog lamp rear and front. Yes Zen Estilo has rear fog lamp

I will send you all wiring diagrams and some hacks as well in a while.

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

The one running down from left stalk is rear wiper and washer. from right its for fog lamp rear and front. Yes Zen Estilo has rear fog lamp

I will send you all wiring diagrams and some hacks as well in a while.

That sounds pretty easy DIY. Will appreciate your help for sharing the diagrams.

Just wanted to have your thoughts on damping the entire vehicle to make the cabin a bit quieter. Like on all the doors, floor and roof, wheel wells from inside and outside.
Sounds a bit funny but more practical.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

That sounds pretty easy DIY. Will appreciate your help for sharing the diagrams.

Just wanted to have your thoughts on damping the entire vehicle to make the cabin a bit quieter. Like on all the doors, floor and roof, wheel wells from inside and outside.
Sounds a bit funny but more practical.

Sure, I will post all the wiring diagrams by tomorrow.

For sound dampening, I feel this is bit overkill for alto as it will increase weight and our Alto being 800cc would become little sluggish, especially considering when we might put on ac.

But I feel Blaupunkt sheets available on Amazon should be good. I had asked in Brotomotiv and prices were too high so left it. I have just worked out rattle noise in doors by putting sponge behind doorpads. However I have installed heat insulation under the bonnet to protect bonnet paint from heat Lol.

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

Sure, I will post all the wiring diagrams by tomorrow.

For sound dampening, I feel this is bit overkill for alto as it will increase weight and our Alto being 800cc would become little sluggish, especially considering when we might put on ac.

But I feel Blaupunkt sheets available on Amazon should be good. I had asked in Brotomotiv and prices were too high so left it. I have just worked out rattle noise in doors by putting sponge behind door pads. However I have installed heat insulation under the bonnet to protect bonnet paint from heat Lol.

I know it might an overkill but it will not hamper the performance that much. I have done the damping on my entire Bolero be it floor, doors, quarter panels, roof, firewall whatever it's possible covered every possible bare metal, outcome really mind blowing, cabin is pretty much quite and also helps in keeping the car cold in scorching heat or vice versa. That's how I end up thinking the same for the same. Since no one have tried it on Alto so was thinking to take an advice before doing something like this. I have seen people doing the damping for better audio quality but my purpose is something else.
Nevertheless I have also added aditional sponge and insulation but it barely make any difference inside the cabin.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

I know it might an overkill but it will not hamper the performance that much. I have done the damping on my entire Bolero be it floor, doors, quarter panels, roof, firewall whatever it's possible covered every possible bare metal, outcome really mind blowing, cabin is pretty much quite and also helps in keeping the car cold in scorching heat or vice versa. That's how I end up thinking the same for the same. Since no one have tried it on Alto so was thinking to take an advice before doing something like this. I have seen people doing the damping for better audio quality but my purpose is something else.
Nevertheless I have also added aditional sponge and insulation but it barely make any difference inside the cabin.

Well, then Blaupunkt, STP, or 3M seem to be good tested and tried brands. I might wait a little more to start thinking about this, but if my estimates are accurate, you might need 12 pieces alone for all doors, floor, firewall, trunk spare wheel area are likely going to need 20 pieces together, aha lets not forget about top.
This will likely need lot of money for sure. We might have to consider sound deadening capacity itself + adhesion term.

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

Well, then Blaupunkt, STP, or 3M seem to be good tested and tried brands. I might wait a little more to start thinking about this, but if my estimates are accurate, you might need 12 pieces alone for all doors, floor, firewall, trunk spare wheel area are likely going to need 20 pieces together, aha lets not forget about top.
This will likely need lot of money for sure. We might have to consider sound deadening capacity itself + adhesion term.

True that, what I was thinking is to damp entire roof, firewall and wheel wells. Rest doors, floor, trunk, and tailgate should be done in patch system just to reduce the resonance. It will take less sheets and will reduce the overall weight too. I have seen this on couple of videos people doing it on their waganoR, zen etc.
Nevertheless it will be more costly effective and might need 6-8 sheets.

[Pannag]

Originally Posted by vivekdewanta

True that, what I was thinking is to damp entire roof, firewall and wheel wells. Rest doors, floor, trunk, and tailgate should be done in patch system just to reduce the resonance. It will take less sheets and will reduce the overall weight too. I have seen this on couple of videos people doing it on their waganoR, zen etc.
Nevertheless it will be more costly effective and might need 6-8 sheets.

please let me know once you get it done. That would be helpful for me too!

[vivekdewanta]

Originally Posted by Pannag

please let me know once you get it done. That would be helpful for me too!

Yes for sure will keep you posted about this.
As of now I'm looking for an motorized antenna like old Verna or accent had. I'm getting really challenge to acquire those. Once I saw these antennas Installed on type 1 Alto K10 it was looking stock and really cool. Since then it's going in my ahead all around.