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Old 28th December 2023, 08:38   #16
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

If you want a near zero delivery mileage, you need to locate a showroom which adjoins their stockyard. Since cars do not travel to the RTO for registration. Lower delivery mileage is possible.

In my case, the Elevate might have been unloaded at the yard 2 km up the road with around 2-3 km on it. Then driven down for PDI preparation and delivery.
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Old 28th December 2023, 12:53   #17
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

I think, having 0 is best but I would be okay with few km (ideally less than 100km) depending on the distance of stock yard to dealer showroom. I mean whatever is driven should be on ODO and not forged to satisfy customer urge of low or no usage.

Yesterday, I used professional PDI service for my new Hyundai car and report show that reading on the ODO was 12, while ECU had recorded 66km.

Reason I got to know was that Hyundai delivers cars to dealer stock yard with shipment mode ON where one fuse removed due to which odometer is not updated. This is left to dealer to add this fuse in stock yard and dealers misuse it by driving without the fuse so that ODO reading is kept low. I didn't expect such loose processes from Hyundai.

So, in my opinion better to have few KM on meter than having a fake 0 reading.
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Old 28th December 2023, 16:05   #18
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

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I got my 2022 X3 30i with just 5 miles on the ODO. Probably on of the lower readings I've seen in any new car.
Wow, that's a good number (for an ODO)!

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If you want a near zero delivery mileage, you need to locate a showroom which adjoins their stockyard. Since cars do not travel to the RTO for registration. Lower delivery mileage is possible.

In my case, the Elevate might have been unloaded at the yard 2 km up the road with around 2-3 km on it. Then driven down for PDI preparation and delivery.
Makes sense!

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I think, having 0 is best but I would be okay with few km (ideally less than 100km) depending on the distance of stock yard to dealer showroom. I mean whatever is driven should be on ODO and not forged to satisfy customer urge of low or no usage.

Yesterday, I used professional PDI service for my new Hyundai car and report show that reading on the ODO was 12, while ECU had recorded 66km.

Reason I got to know was that Hyundai delivers cars to dealer stock yard with shipment mode ON where one fuse removed due to which odometer is not updated. This is left to dealer to add this fuse in stock yard and dealers misuse it by driving without the fuse so that ODO reading is kept low. I didn't expect such loose processes from Hyundai.

So, in my opinion better to have few KM on meter than having a fake 0 reading.
Well, that's not good! But congrats on the new car bud! This is the first time I'm hearing about a "shipment mode". Something like this even exists?

Do all cars have these? Or is it just Hyundai?


Well, so according to what I've heard from you guys, there isn't a way to get a car delivered with 0KMs on the ODO. Unless either you get tech from Wolfsburg, like @GForceEnjoyer mentioned, or the dealer resets the ODO before delivery or a temporary ODO, or last thing, the dealer has a stockyard attached right next to the showroom, like @ajmat mentioned! Until then, I don't think there is really a way to get a brand new ride delivered with 0 on the clock!
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Old 29th December 2023, 12:31   #19
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

My Creta was brought to showroom couple of days before delivery with 6km on odo. I made a visit the same day for PDI and could see some mud on the tyres. According to the dealer, it was due to road test carried out as a part of pre-delivery checks. Odo was still unchanged at 6km on the delivery day.

I would be very surprised and somewhat suspicious of dealer's intention if odo is zero. Too good to be true in India where a brand new car has to touch some road either at factory, dealer yard or showroom.

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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

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Well okay, everytime someone posts about them buying a new car, I have always noticed that the ODO reading stand at 3kms, 7kms, heck even 23kms at times! But I've always been curious about this!

Is there a way for a car to be delivered from factory-yard-showroom with 0kms on the ODO?

Curious to see if there are ways to get it done and your takes on it?

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Hyundai didn't connect/activate the speedometer on our i20 before the delivery. So yeah...the odo was zero when we took her home although she had run quite a few kms before that... PDI and RTO etc.
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

My Kodiaq 2.0 TSI when delivered had 8 KMs on odo & I was pleased to see that - was expecting something north of 20 KMs.
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Hyundai didn't connect/activate the speedometer on our i20 before the delivery. So yeah...the odo was zero when we took her home although she had run quite a few kms before that... PDI and RTO etc.
Ooh, interesting.

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My Kodiaq 2.0 TSI when delivered had 8 KMs on odo & I was pleased to see that - was expecting something north of 20 KMs.
That's what even I would expect but then 8KMs.. That's pretty good!
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

Very difficult on Maruti & Hyundai cars. Their yards are themselves probably 2-3 kms long and they move from state/regional yard to yard. My little knowledge about TN Maruti/TATA cars for example will show in Yeswantpur (north blore) yard before they move down south. Mahindra also has a similar regional yard in Hosur (north TN) for whole of TN distribution.

Little pun intended, low volume selling car names whose factories are the size of a Maruti yard can deliver a car with 0-1 kms straight from assy line to truck to corner of the country.
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Re: Is there a way for a new car to be delivered with 0 km on the odo?

I also bought an Exter from a smaller showroom. Car has to come from the main yard on Mysore Road and had 37 km on the odometer
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Right-o. But then why wouldn't they load the cars on a truck from the railhead and deliver to the stockyard? Wouldn't that be a better option?
Wait a second!!! You can disconnect the speedo? Isn't that unethical?
Okay, I had a brainwave? What if you tell the dealer that you wanna take the delivery from the stockyard or the railhead itself?
Disconnecting the speedo in cars during the 90's or earlier was a messy affair; one had to disconnect the speedo cable from the worm gear housed in the gear box underneath the car. In post 2000 models, with the advent of electronics, it is a simple matter of disconnecting a wire from a socket inside the bonnet. Plug and play! They do it all the time.

They may permit taking delivery from the stockyard provided the car can be spruced up for delivery there itself, and you yourself drive it to the RTO for registration. Not possible from railhead, which may be quite far from the stockyard.

How many cars can be loaded on a car carrier truck? Five? Six? It will cost good money to load/transport/unload them from railhead to stockyard. Definitely more than the cost of filling 5 litres of fuel in each car and part time driver wages to move them from Tiruvallur railhead to Chennai city.

But I have seen Hero Motocorp unload motorbikes at the Tambaram railhead near my place, load them on trucks and move to their warehouse just a couple of Km away. Because a truck can accommodate a lot of bikes, it will be cheaper.

Sometime back a friend from Bangalore told me cars are unloaded at Whitefield railhead and moved to the city stockyards. If so, they will surely be driven with speedos disengaged! Probably during the small hours, considering current traffic. I have worked for five years in Bangalore during early 2000's and used to visit our company's warehouse at Whitefield frequently. I had never seen any cars getting unloaded there. So it must be a new phenomenon, if true.

But rest assured, even if the speedo is genuinely at zero at the showroom during delivery, the car would have been test driven - ripped actually - at the company test track as part of the QC process!

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Disconnecting the speedo in cars during the 90's or earlier was a messy affair; one had to disconnect the speedo cable from the worm gear housed in the gear box underneath the car. In post 2000 models, with the advent of electronics, it is a simple matter of disconnecting a wire from a socket inside the bonnet. Plug and play! They do it all the time.

They may permit taking delivery from the stockyard provided the car can be spruced up for delivery there itself, and you yourself drive it to the RTO for registration. Not possible from railhead, which may be quite far from the stockyard.
Right, so railhead is out of question in this case!

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How many cars can be loaded on a car carrier truck? Five? Six? It will cost good money to load/transport/unload them from railhead to stockyard. Definitely more than the cost of filling 5 litres of fuel in each car and part time driver wages to move them from Tiruvallur railhead to Chennai city.

But I have seen Hero Motocorp unload motorbikes at the Tambaram railhead near my place, load them on trucks and move to their warehouse just a couple of Km away. Because a truck can accommodate a lot of bikes, it will be cheaper.

Sometime back a friend from Bangalore told me cars are unloaded at Whitefield railhead and moved to the city stockyards. If so, they will surely be driven with speedos disengaged! Probably during the small hours, considering current traffic. I have worked for five years in Bangalore during early 2000's and used to visit our company's warehouse at Whitefield frequently. I had never seen any cars getting unloaded there. So it must be a new phenomenon, if true.

But rest assured, even if the speedo is genuinely at zero at the showroom during delivery, the car would have been test driven - ripped actually - at the company test track as part of the QC process!
Whitefield railhead, huh? Not far by from home so might as well go there once and check just for fun!

Also, when the car is being test driven, they don't drive it. They tear the car apart, if you know what I mean! They just drive it like they don't care about anything, anyone! It's just madness!
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Also, when the car is being test driven, they don't drive it. They tear the car apart, if you know what I mean! They just drive it like they don't care about anything, anyone! It's just madness!
Not only during test drive, even during transport of vehicle from yard to showroom or showroom to service center.

Today I encountered one black altroz DCA driven rashly with no number plate and seat plastics intact, on wind tunnel road, bangalore. Even the windows were open and speakers on full volume. I thought, some uncle is enjoying his life to fullest. Even this person was overtaking by getting down from road and not slowing down for speadbreakers.
Soon after it overtook another altroz (some new blue color)with no number plate and then it hit me that these cars must be going to dealership or yard.

Later I notices that both drivers had same uniform confirming my hypothesis. 2nd altroz was being driven nicely with windows up.

Now if you ask me, I will prefer the 2nd Altroz even if it has double the km on odo of 1st.

KM do not tell the full story.
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Not only during test drive, even during transport of vehicle from yard to showroom or showroom to service center.

Today I encountered one black altroz DCA driven rashly with no number plate and seat plastics intact, on wind tunnel road, bangalore. Even the windows were open and speakers on full volume. I thought, some uncle is enjoying his life to fullest. Even this person was overtaking by getting down from road and not slowing down for speadbreakers.
Soon after it overtook another altroz (some new blue color)with no number plate and then it hit me that these cars must be going to dealership or yard.

Later I notices that both drivers had same uniform confirming my hypothesis. 2nd altroz was being driven nicely with windows up.

Now if you ask me, I will prefer the 2nd Altroz even if it has double the km on odo of 1st.

KM do not tell the full story.
Yes, I have seen this type of thing recently as well. KHT Motors Whitefield has a stockyard which is 9 mins and 2.7KMs away from the showroom! I have seen people drive Harriers, Nexons, Altrozs, Tiago EVs very rashly, blasting music, using phones while driving, but on the other hand, there are some executives who treat the car nicely and drive it properly without any rashness or doing any crazy, stupid stuff!

Like you said, KMs don't tell the full story!!
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