Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D

Bal_ark21 · 18th November 2023, 10:59

Hello Team BHPians, I have just joined the forum and this is my first post. I have recently purchased a Baleno Alpha AMT model from Sanei Motors Kolkata and got it transported to Bangalore since BH number was not happening here.
I have clocked about 180 KMs as of now but I have been experiencing a peculiar problem with the car. Quite a few times when I am in traffic and put the car in N when we are not moving, whenever I put it back back to D, it doesn't detect it as I can see in the console which keeps showing N and it refuses to move. I have to try 3-4 times for the car to detect that the gear has been moved to D and then it starts to drive. Needless to say cars behind me keep on honking and I am worried it might lead to an accident. This has happened 4-5 times till now and I am wondering if this is common with AMT cars or is this a manufacturing defect? Request guidance of fellow BHPians on this.

Jeroen · 18th November 2023, 12:46

Welcome to the forum!

No this is not normal at all. When you move the selector is should always do as advertised, irrespective of position or how it was moved. E.g. moving from P to D, D should work. From N to R, R should work.

You need to get it seen too. My suspicion would be the gear selector mechanism needs a bit of fine tuning. There are a number of levers and so, looks like it is a little out of whack. Not sure why, maybe just bad luck, maybe the factory was just a hair off when they installed it. These levers have little pivoting points with rubber bushings and or some sort of little (ball) bearing. Maybe something wrong with it.

On some AMT the selector move the gears by means of a special cable, so called Bowden cable. Same thing, it needs careful adjusting.
Your dealer should be able to fix it. The specifications and settings of the gear mechanism are known and can be verified and adjusted if need be.

Good luck

Let us know what they find
Jeroen
Jeroen

srini1785 · 18th November 2023, 13:02

Welcome to TBHP and welcome again to the wonderful world of Suzuki AMT.

As welcome drinks we can offer :

Maruti's AMT Woes Page
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...t-woes-29.html (Maruti's AMT woes)

AMT is a complex beast with a lot of sensors and actuators interacting with the actual gearbox. As @Jeroen had explained there are mechanical things that can go wrong and so can sensor interlocks with the ECU. Its best to raise this issue with the ASC.

sunshineqq · 27th December 2023, 11:49

I am a Swift AMT user. This happens to me too. Depress the brake pedal fully before slotting to D. If it doesn't work, release the brake and then press it again and slot to D. It should work. That is how I handle it.

Maverick Avi · 27th December 2023, 11:52

Since you only clocked 180kms with your new car let me suggest you something before you rush to service center since it happened with my new Wagon R 1.2 AMT a couple of times when it was new and also heard about this from fellow colleagues who bought AMT models from Maruti.

As you aware that the AMT only registers a shift from N to D when brake is pressed, you should consciously make sure that brake is adequately pressed and then change the lever from N to D and then release the brake pedal. For new AMT owners, the timing of pressing the brake pedal and changing the gear can be off leading to gear shift not registering. Chances of it happening is more in traffic(you specifically mentioned that it happens in traffic) as we are in a hurry to shift and move on. If you are convinced that it's not the case then try giving a visit to service center.

18th November 2023, 10:59	#1
Bal_ark21 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1 Thanked: 2 Times	Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D Hello Team BHPians, I have just joined the forum and this is my first post. I have recently purchased a Baleno Alpha AMT model from Sanei Motors Kolkata and got it transported to Bangalore since BH number was not happening here. I have clocked about 180 KMs as of now but I have been experiencing a peculiar problem with the car. Quite a few times when I am in traffic and put the car in N when we are not moving, whenever I put it back back to D, it doesn't detect it as I can see in the console which keeps showing N and it refuses to move. I have to try 3-4 times for the car to detect that the gear has been moved to D and then it starts to drive. Needless to say cars behind me keep on honking and I am worried it might lead to an accident. This has happened 4-5 times till now and I am wondering if this is common with AMT cars or is this a manufacturing defect? Request guidance of fellow BHPians on this.
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18th November 2023, 12:46	#2
Jeroen Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 8,592 Thanked: 56,973 Times View My Garage	re: Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D Welcome to the forum! No this is not normal at all. When you move the selector is should always do as advertised, irrespective of position or how it was moved. E.g. moving from P to D, D should work. From N to R, R should work. You need to get it seen too. My suspicion would be the gear selector mechanism needs a bit of fine tuning. There are a number of levers and so, looks like it is a little out of whack. Not sure why, maybe just bad luck, maybe the factory was just a hair off when they installed it. These levers have little pivoting points with rubber bushings and or some sort of little (ball) bearing. Maybe something wrong with it. On some AMT the selector move the gears by means of a special cable, so called Bowden cable. Same thing, it needs careful adjusting. Your dealer should be able to fix it. The specifications and settings of the gear mechanism are known and can be verified and adjusted if need be. Good luck Let us know what they find Jeroen Jeroen
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18th November 2023, 13:02	#3
srini1785 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: bang Posts: 892 Thanked: 3,216 Times	re: Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D Welcome to TBHP and welcome again to the wonderful world of Suzuki AMT. As welcome drinks we can offer : Maruti's AMT Woes Page https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...t-woes-29.html (Maruti's AMT woes) AMT is a complex beast with a lot of sensors and actuators interacting with the actual gearbox. As @Jeroen had explained there are mechanical things that can go wrong and so can sensor interlocks with the ECU. Its best to raise this issue with the ASC.
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27th December 2023, 11:49	#4
sunshineqq Newbie Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Kerala Posts: 19 Thanked: 17 Times	Re: Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D I am a Swift AMT user. This happens to me too. Depress the brake pedal fully before slotting to D. If it doesn't work, release the brake and then press it again and slot to D. It should work. That is how I handle it.
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27th December 2023, 11:52	#5
Maverick Avi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Delhi Posts: 290 Thanked: 682 Times	Re: Baleno AMT doesn't move from N to D Since you only clocked 180kms with your new car let me suggest you something before you rush to service center since it happened with my new Wagon R 1.2 AMT a couple of times when it was new and also heard about this from fellow colleagues who bought AMT models from Maruti. As you aware that the AMT only registers a shift from N to D when brake is pressed, you should consciously make sure that brake is adequately pressed and then change the lever from N to D and then release the brake pedal. For new AMT owners, the timing of pressing the brake pedal and changing the gear can be off leading to gear shift not registering. Chances of it happening is more in traffic(you specifically mentioned that it happens in traffic) as we are in a hurry to shift and move on. If you are convinced that it's not the case then try giving a visit to service center. Last edited by Maverick Avi : 27th December 2023 at 11:54.
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