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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Quote:
Apart from that I should be going ahead with the ICE upgrade soon (let's say next week?). Retaining the stock HU (due to AC stuff). Front - Sony 162ES Components Back - Sony 160ES Coaxials Amp - Sony GS4 4 Channel Sub - Retain the Hamaan 8 inch under-seat sub (but shift it to the boot) Damping - Morel ACUDAMP 211 (doors + floor) That and maybe get the callipers painted red Looking to complete the mentioned in a DIY ish fasion! Will keep the thread updated. | |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Quote:
The Upgrade! Front Speakers: SONY XS162ES (ES Components) [20,000] Back Speakers: SONY XS160ES (ES Coaxials) [16,000] Amplifier: SONY GS4 (4x70 amplifier) [18,000] Wiring (amp): Scoche 8awg (OFC Power cables with fuse) [3,000] Wiring (speakers/input): 16awg Equivalent Quality (OFC) [4,000] Spacer/Rainguard: wooden/sillicon [3,300] Damping sheets: Morel ACUDAMP 211 (25 sheets) [600*25 = 15,000] Total: ~80k Other Tools/Equipment:
Attaching pictures! ![]() ![]() Here is the inventory! ![]() Left door with spacer in. Look at the silver padding on the door. Apparantly that's some sort of deadening material provided by Tata! But for some reason it isn't there on the cheaper models (that would make sense but they don't provide any sort of mention on the spec sheet/brochure?) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Speakers with spacers and guard. ![]() First level of deadening on the inner door panel. ![]() Second layer of deadening on middle panel. ![]() Third deadening layer on the door card! (Added a lot more after the picture) ![]() The sub and the amp at the back (cable management could have been much much better - will be fixed soon!) ![]() Bare carpets with seats removed ![]() Due to the DIY nature of the deadening upgrade - we refrained from removing all the carpets.. rather peel one side at a time and apply sheets on the bare metal. I was surprised to find quite a lot of deadening material already provided by tata in the form of foam/pillows/plaster like material ![]() A view with the tweeters in (the golden and black go very well with the black dash). All in all I spent around 85k for the whole upgrade. The damping labour was expensive if I had gotten it done. I was quoted around 15k just for the doors! A nice deal on the morel sheets came in clutch. They retail at ~20$ per sheet on morel's website. I got them at 600/- per sheet during the Great Indian Sale! All in all - amazing upgrade! The speakers feel sublime. The vocals are so crisp, the mids are so smooth, the bass is just punchy! (Now the sub needs an upgrade haha). What I learned -
Bloopers ![]() So It was me and 2 other friends working on the car. And although that's amazing fun and productive.. coordination.. uhh xD. We did the damping and put the car back together and were pretty happy with our speed/workmanship. But only... The car wouldn't start! My heart skipped a beat! Thankfully the issue was just that the fuel pump cable had tucked itself under the carpet and one of us forgot to check it! Pretty embarrassing but a huge relief! Bonus pics! ![]() ![]() | |
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| Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Amazing setup, happy to see what you have done with the car. I too have undergone the long journey of finding the proper headlight upgrade for Altroz as there is virtually no space between the housing & dust-cover. This is my setup as follows, Low Beam - OSRAM 35W 4200K HID High Beam - CHINESE LEDs - No other option as there is no space behind the reflector housing that can hold nice LEDs with the cooling fan. I have a 75w led setup that has cooling fins and not fan, its from a brand called MOTONEEDS. Throw is actually good for a chinese LED, personally satisfied. FOG LAMPS - STOCK, Planning to upgrade. Please do share your valuable opinion upgrading with a good 4200K LED for fog lamp (H8 socket) Also upgraded from stock horns to Hella chrome trumpet horns, stock ones don’t help much in highways. Thank you for all the information you have shared on Altroz & it’s upgrades. Please keep the thread going ![]() |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Quote:
Horn upgrade sounds nice! I have done that as well! ![]() About the fogs, I am currently running LED fogs from CrystalEYE which is a pretty okish brand (I am running these from a friend's reccomendations). Although they turn out to be too good for my ethics. The bulbs are phenomenal! The spread is almost like 90 degree and you can quite literally see the lateral part of the road being illuminated!. These are so good that you can actually drive with the headlights off in the city as well!. Now for the sad part about them.. They are too bright... LEDs are not built for general reflectors (especially fogs). And this is no special case. They blind and they blind badly.. For this specific reason I keep them off 90% of the times (not to mention the low beams are pretty amazing as well!). But yeah.. that 10% of pitch dark highway drive, or the night drive home though a lonely twisty patch really makes the difference. Being able to see sharp turns before you turn in gives you a lot more confidence! and is just a phenomenal experience! I will refrain from recommending /not recommending these - as they are very blinding and I myself keep them off the majority of the times (if there are other cars ahead or oncoming). I do want to say, if you go for LEDs as fogs.. please use them responsibly! The amount of people driving with full beams is already eye-hurting.. and I under no circumstance want to promote such an ordeal. Honestly, for my next change - I would switch back to my white-halogens for fogs. As they were decent enough without being a literal eyesore! Thanks a lot again for your kind words, do share your journey inputs! Drive On! | |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Hey Guys! Posting an update on my Altroz iTurbo build! Just got the brakes done and they are amazing ![]() Before I start, I actually had tried to start a separate thread for support/advice regarding this topic here: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...oz-iturbo.html (Front Brake Upgrade for my remapped Tata Altroz iTurbo) But that post did not seem to get much traction. Anywho! fastforward a few months and we finally got it done! I will be qouting myself from the post a fair bit. Back Story: The stock brakes were decent enough but not great in any regard. Especially after the remap and grippier tires, the brakes really started to feel weak. They had this weird springy feel to them where one would have to brake and then brake a little more to get the expected braking performance. (very sorry for the bad explanation but that is truly the best way I could put it). I tried Bosch replacement "ceramic" pads, and they were great! The bite was much better, the fade much much better, and the fade feel was muted to a large extent, but no one can beat physics! The nature of the thin and small rotors (235mm) meant that they just could not hold a lot of heat, nor could they dissipate it. This made spirited driving a tricky endeavour honestly, say braking from 140 down to 80, and now you cannot speed up confidently - because you know that the brakes are not going to feel that sharp if you had to hit them hard... This made me actively look for a solution. I tried to contact the suppliers of EBC, Brembo but they did not have any solution for Indian cars :( Due to the lack of support/information - i decided to put the idea on hold and look at adapting my driving style to these okish brakes. Fast forward a few months... Around the end of monsoons last year, my car had a breakdown due to the coolant hose exploding. This made me take the car to Tata ASC rather than my trusty FNG because of warranty and other paperwork. At some point during the process, I realised that an Altroz on the next lift was in for Rotor replacement. I couldn't help but notice that the rotors on that car were bigger! I asked around in Tata, but they all refused the observation and said that all Altroz' have the same sized rotors. I wasn't convinced. I started doing some research with part numbers and on spares websites and found that the Diesel Altroz (and some other variants of the DCA come with bigger - 254mm rotors!). This was a Eureka moment for me! and I began research over how I could get these bigger pads and rotors fit on my iTurbo! Now to uptil recently, my stock brake rotors were completety gone and the pads EOL, so I needed a change badly! This urged me to jump the guns on a replacement/upgrade... Here were my options:
Now, option 1 and 4 were out. I had to choose between going for the Diesel Rotors or the Nexon ones. I figured chasing the Nexon rotors might be flying too close to the sun, because if the steering knuckle is different, maybe the bearings are different to.. what about the rotor studs? and so on... Here we have - The Altroz Diesel Brakes! The steering knuckle on the petrol and the diesel is the same! This gave me hope as i placed an order for the parts! (unfortunately I could not procure OEM rotors, but the callipers are OEM). ![]() We tried, going for only the rotors and pads and hoping the callipers would fit, but we had to change them anyway.. Even the pad mounts and different (LOOK AT THE SIZE DIFFERENCE!!) ![]() ![]() Here is the difference between the size of the rotors (254mm vs 235mm). ![]() Here are the differences in the calliper ![]() Annd the difference between the whole setup! ![]() ![]() All in all, the new brakes feel much much better when heat cycling, they are much more confidence inducing and have greater bite! The feel of the pedal is completely transformed and I CANNOT GO BACK! And lastly, I would like to thank my local FNG for entertaining and guiding me through the entire journey! They are AutoServv - based in around Verna-Goa. Thanks for the Read! I would be happy to hear your thoughts on this and maybe help me decide what next! Drive ON! PS: will get her cleaned up and post some better photos soon! |
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| Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? That's a pretty good upgrade and I'm guessing a reliable one considering it's basically stock. This is something that I may try soon, too. The 254mm rotor is an odd size. I wonder if other cars come with this size. If yes, maybe some better quality brake pads for even better braking? Good stuff! What's next? Some coilovers, maybe? |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Quote:
That's a lot for your kind words! Yes, reliability was major factor in choosing this setup - really don't want to mess with brakes haha. So far they're holding up excellently! I can ride the brakes on a few consecutive corner in a downhill ghat section (just an example for testa's sake, pretty much always use engine braking) and still have the same pedal feel and brake performance! It's practically a no brainer for a Petrol/iTurbo owner! Safer and more fun drives are just around the horizon ![]() Very true about the brakes pads as well, will definitely want to explore options and get new pads depending on availability. Had a really good experience with the Bosch "ceramic" pads but they really dug into the rotor. But I'm still fine replacing both pads and rotors every 40-50k kms if it came to that honestly! As long as the brakes are there to support me when I need them! Not so sure about the coilovers, I really enjoying going road-tripping with her.. and the coilovers might reduce the comfort factor I feel. Again... Not so sure about that either. But no plans as of now. Maybe anti roll bars from the Nexon? Or maybe some other suspension components from the racer when (and if) it comes out! | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Is the upstream stuff the same? My indica turbo diesel had (apart from the brakes and calipers) different brake booster, different alternator with vacuum pump etc, from the indigo, very different from the regular indica xeta. Do go through the altroz catalog and see if you need any further upgrades. |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: What Next for my Altroz iTurbo? Updating the thread over few advancements over the past few months! Here are the main updates.
So, beginning with the tires. A little bit of a story time... I generally get my alignment/balancing/rotation done from a local dealer. This guy is a pretty big name around where I live and their work is usually pretty decent. Unfortunately this time, seems like I hit some really bad luck. I was out on a short road trip to Pune in May, and I always do a full checkup and tire care before every trip. I did so this time as well. The car felt good, normal and nothing out of the ordinary. Maybe the steering felt slightly stiffer than usual, but not terribly stiff. I ruled that as maybe the EPS was showing it's pain after around 40k kms of rough use on upsized tires and 55k kms on the odo in general. The trip was good, fun, comfortable.. nothing out of the ordinary. Once I got back.. I relaxed for a few weeks and went back to normal life. Daily runs, office, the works. Few weeks in, I felt the car is pulling to the left. This was pretty normal for me, the pull was very slight and I have had this happen a fair amount of times. So I went in for alignment. And things got sour very fast. Turns out, both of my front tires had uneven wear. These tires (UC6) had around 10-20k kms life left in them, but they had rubbed on one side (inside). ![]() ![]() ![]() This was both the front tires. The rear ones were pristine. Again.. had 10-20k kms life in them. I had to get them replaced, And replacing just 2 did not make sense because then I thought I would get stuck in this endless loop of replacing 2 tires at a time ![]() I got a set of Michelin Primacy 4. These are not the 4ST (ST means Silent Treatment). I also sized down to 195/55/r16. The 205s were rubbing the wheel well at the back, and 195s were the only ones in stock. I got these by recommendation by a fellow BHPian, Thanks @SavolyWalrus. The tyres are amazing, and suit the Altroz better. There has been a debate about the PS4 vs the UC6. And maybe for lighter cars with softer suspension the debate might be tougher, but for the 1.1 ton car that the altroz is.. The PS4 really climbs to be the champion. It's mind boggling how much better these feel at speeds, The car feels just so darty and pointy. You flick the wheel and she's ready to prance in that direction. Taking sharper turns where the UC6s used to understeer, hop and squeal, feel routine on the PS4 (even in damp and cold roads thanks to the rainy evenings of Goa). I can also feel the suspension do more work, as compared to the UC, maybe they lost grip before the suspension could actually take the load? I'm not a tire guru, but these definitely hit the mark with a bang, and will stick to them for the next change. And all this while being just as silent, if not slightly quieter than the contis. But the conits did feel a bit more dynamic though, the steering was stiffer and you could feel more of what the front wheels are up-to in them. Not that the PS4 is bad, but the contis felt better in this regard. Extremely happy with this choice! Now that the tire rant is over, time for something which was due for a while. I finally got the stock projectors upgraded! The OEM ones were designed for halogens and did not fair linearly for putting quality bulbs in (HID or LED). I finally took the advice and got a pair of BI LED projectors for her. These come with a laser functionality (I really don't care about that). The light output is superb! Here is how the projector looks now, ![]() ![]() And now for what matters the most! The Spread! ![]() This is the spread from the stock setup, this exact shot actually has LED in the left headlight and HID in the right. You can see the bleed as well, this really was not a great lighting solution. ![]() And here is the spread from the upgrade projectors. Super clean and bright. The hotspots are centered and mature, and the spread is wide and linear. I have not clicked before and after shots for brightness difference between the 2. This is because the camera adjusts for this anyway, and i personally find them pretty meaningless honestly. So the projectors I went for are the AES UX2, they come with standard Hella projects mounts and fit the Altroz without a need for extra mounting hardware! (A big thanks to Tata for using standardized projector mounts). ![]() This is a sweet upgrade! and i would recommend it whole heartedly. Although there is not much information available for these in English, I will link a youtube video talking about these (indo). There in the end they test these to have around 4000 lumens at the low beam hotspot and around 7000 lumen with the laser lenses. . Now for the cost, Tires: 9,600*4 = 38,400 INR (Fitting included) Headlights: 12,500 + 2,500 = 15,000 INR (2500 for fitting). The fitting charges are high because the headlight needs to be opened and re-sealed for the upgrade, I unfortunately do not have any images/documentation about this process because I got it done from a local dealer over a days time. All in all, a sweet upgrade! I would definitely recommend upgrading from stock projectors, the improvements are massive! Thanks a lot for reading! Eager to hear what you guys think about these advances, I also have been planning some stuff regarding the powertrain and shifter - especially now that the Racer is out! Will keep this thread posted! A few more images to admire her beauty! ![]() ![]() |
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