about civic paddle shift

jeetu4444 · 27th July 2007, 04:32

Guys well i hope yourl remmeber that we had said that in civic paddle shift we could only upshift and not down shift.well after my civic first service i have noticed that now i can down shift,so driving in paddle shift mode is so much fun now......civic A/t owners please check and give your feed back

CrAzY dRiVeR · 27th July 2007, 05:58

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Originally Posted by jeetu4444

Guys well i hope yourl remmeber that we had said that in civic paddle shift we could only upshift and not down shift.well after my civic first service i have noticed that now i can down shift,so driving in paddle shift mode is so much fun now......civic A/t owners please check and give your feed back

Are you saying you used to paddle- upshift only till first service?
This is why companies recommend full reading of the car-manual.

On a serious note, isn't it supposed to be as simple as pressing the right one for upshift and the left one for downshift. (Pardon me if i am wrong, have been in the manual civic only)

danlalan · 27th July 2007, 09:39

I guess once you upshift through the gears and the come back to standstill you have to come back down the gears with the downshifter..otherwise the car stalls...tried that on my bosses car!

mclaren1885 · 27th July 2007, 10:39

The Civic AT does come with both upshifter and downshifter. In case you don't downshift I guess the gears go down by itself. I remember I forgot to downshift two times and somehow I managed to see 1st gear displayed on the dash. I guess there is a minimum speed below which the auto tranny takes over the controls.

jeetu4444 · 27th July 2007, 14:12

well guy i know wat yourl are saying ! Well i knew everything about paddle shift ! But earlier i could only upshift and downshift happened auto according to speed but now i can downshift when ever i want to ! This i could do only after 1st service ! So its so much fun now when ever i need to zip just press a button and go go go

ST7677 · 27th July 2007, 15:08

You can upshift or downshift any time using paddle shifts, but it is within the rev limits to protect the engine.
If you do not down shift, the gears automatically downshift when the RPM gets low.

The car does not stall whatever you do. In auto mode it's fully auto, in paddle shift mode again there is an auto override.
In my brake tests, the manual would stall (as I did not go to neutral), but auto would always come back into 1st gear.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 27th July 2007, 16:31

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Originally Posted by jeetu4444

well guy i know wat yourl are saying ! Well i knew everything about paddle shift ! But earlier i could only upshift and downshift happened auto according to speed but now i can downshift when ever i want to ! This i could do only after 1st service ! So its so much fun now when ever i need to zip just press a button and go go go

Are you saying that the car had such a problem, and it got rectified during first service?

1100D · 27th July 2007, 19:57

Why couldn't you downshift before first service? And what are you doing different after the first service that is enabling you to do so. Or is it that the Workshop did something on the first service?

anandpadhye · 27th July 2007, 20:04

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Originally Posted by jeetu4444

But earlier i could only upshift and downshift happened auto according to speed but now i can downshift when ever i want to ! This i could do only after 1st service !

Why why why?

This is serious. and I think the reason must be diagnosed.
If this a feature, it should work from day 1.

Nitin · 27th July 2007, 20:04

Isn't it a standard set up,where you get to move up the gears with 1 paddle, and downshift with the other?
I think most cars are built with a chip that controls the gears-speed ratio,and in any situation it controls the gears if the appropriate action is not taken by the driver.

The only paddle shifts I have used is on the 2008 Lancer,and I found that the gears shift to the appropriate level when the drives goes on 1 gear for too long.

jeetu4444 · 28th July 2007, 06:24

guys wat i think is the company guys locks the down shift till 1st service to protect the engine ! Please read the review of civic A/T !

amit · 28th July 2007, 11:33

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guys wat i think is the company guys locks the down shift till 1st service to protect the engine !

Doesn't make sense! What is so damaging about downshifts to the engine that they have to lock the downshifts? None of the paddle shift cars I have driven till now have had this feature. Two of the cars I drove were brand new.

Other Civic AT owners should confirm this feature. I think there was something wrong with your car and the service guys quietly rectified it.

revtech · 28th July 2007, 11:47

it could be poss cause if ur fast and your decellerating and u down shift, the rpm gonna shoot up (although in the allowable range) which is not good while running in

mclaren1885 · 28th July 2007, 13:05

I don't think any company would do that. Besides its not that easy to lock the downshifting process. I guess it is a fault that occurred in this particular vehicle that was rectified at 1st service. I drove a friends AT Civic which had not yet done 1st service and I am sure I could shift down.

1100D · 29th July 2007, 02:07

Looks like this is Honda's explanation for having sold a car with a defective feature in the first place. Rectify it and then say, oh this is a done thing till first service.

Thats Honda quality for you.

I have driven a Brand new civic in US (enterprise rental) and it upshifts downshifts and while trying to downshift at a high rpm range, it simply does not do so, but if the downshifting gear rpm is in the allowable rpm range, it happily downshifts.

27th July 2007, 04:32	#1
jeetu4444 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 305 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	about civic paddle shift Guys well i hope yourl remmeber that we had said that in civic paddle shift we could only upshift and not down shift.well after my civic first service i have noticed that now i can down shift,so driving in paddle shift mode is so much fun now......civic A/t owners please check and give your feed back
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27th July 2007, 09:39	#3
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,639 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	I guess once you upshift through the gears and the come back to standstill you have to come back down the gears with the downshifter..otherwise the car stalls...tried that on my bosses car!
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27th July 2007, 10:39	#4
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	The Civic AT does come with both upshifter and downshifter. In case you don't downshift I guess the gears go down by itself. I remember I forgot to downshift two times and somehow I managed to see 1st gear displayed on the dash. I guess there is a minimum speed below which the auto tranny takes over the controls.
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27th July 2007, 14:12	#5
jeetu4444 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 305 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	well guy i know wat yourl are saying ! Well i knew everything about paddle shift ! But earlier i could only upshift and downshift happened auto according to speed but now i can downshift when ever i want to ! This i could do only after 1st service ! So its so much fun now when ever i need to zip just press a button and go go go
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27th July 2007, 15:08	#6
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,067 Thanked: 99 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	You can upshift or downshift any time using paddle shifts, but it is within the rev limits to protect the engine. If you do not down shift, the gears automatically downshift when the RPM gets low. The car does not stall whatever you do. In auto mode it's fully auto, in paddle shift mode again there is an auto override. In my brake tests, the manual would stall (as I did not go to neutral), but auto would always come back into 1st gear.
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27th July 2007, 19:57	#8
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,117 Times View My Garage	Why couldn't you downshift before first service? And what are you doing different after the first service that is enabling you to do so. Or is it that the Workshop did something on the first service?
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27th July 2007, 20:04	#10
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	Isn't it a standard set up,where you get to move up the gears with 1 paddle, and downshift with the other? I think most cars are built with a chip that controls the gears-speed ratio,and in any situation it controls the gears if the appropriate action is not taken by the driver. The only paddle shifts I have used is on the 2008 Lancer,and I found that the gears shift to the appropriate level when the drives goes on 1 gear for too long.
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28th July 2007, 06:24	#11
jeetu4444 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 305 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	guys wat i think is the company guys locks the down shift till 1st service to protect the engine ! Please read the review of civic A/T !
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28th July 2007, 11:47	#13
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	it could be poss cause if ur fast and your decellerating and u down shift, the rpm gonna shoot up (although in the allowable range) which is not good while running in
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28th July 2007, 13:05	#14
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	I don't think any company would do that. Besides its not that easy to lock the downshifting process. I guess it is a fault that occurred in this particular vehicle that was rectified at 1st service. I drove a friends AT Civic which had not yet done 1st service and I am sure I could shift down.
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29th July 2007, 02:07	#15
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,117 Times View My Garage	Looks like this is Honda's explanation for having sold a car with a defective feature in the first place. Rectify it and then say, oh this is a done thing till first service. Thats Honda quality for you. I have driven a Brand new civic in US (enterprise rental) and it upshifts downshifts and while trying to downshift at a high rpm range, it simply does not do so, but if the downshifting gear rpm is in the allowable rpm range, it happily downshifts.
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