[Durango Dude]

Originally Posted by GTO

Rather surprised & disappointed that, a full 3+ years since launch, Tata has still not sorted out the issues & niggles with the Harrier? I remember our test-drive demo being full of issues (including build inconsistencies). What's worse is, this & the Safari are their flagship products but appear to be built more inconsistently than some of their cheaper cars like the Altroz or Nexon.

Looks like JLR and Tata were made for each other! Neither is known for their reliability, so also must be the 'hailed' Omega platform on what the Harrier is based. To top this they've been constantly the the second largest manufacturer in India in the last few months, they're actually on a roll, who would want a 5* GNCAP rating on a shoddy unreliable car!?

[tracerspiff]

Originally Posted by sage_sandman

3. When the engine is started and the vehicle is moved, the accelerator pedal feels mild but distinct rough.. The feeling is like a worn clutch plate on manual transmission vehicles.

I have a June 2022 XZA+ Harrier.

Im seeing similar vibrations that creep into the accelerator pedal at slow speeds. I am keeping a close eye on this to see if its worsening. If so, I plan to get it corrected in the second service. Please update this thread with the diagnosis from your car.

Originally Posted by sage_sandman

4. Rattling noise coming from somewhere around the drivers's seat on a bumpy road. Not heard on smooth roads. Feels like a plastic filament rubbing another plastic material..

I had a similar plastic rattle sound when i went over bumps.. it went away after the first free service where they tightened everything under the car.

[firingpistonz]

Originally Posted by sage_sandman

During the first free service, I had complained on the following (major items)

1. Steering vibration after 100kmph +
2. Vehicle pulling towards left after 100 kmph +
3. When the engine is started and the vehicle is moved, the accelerator pedal feels mild but distinct rough.. The feeling is like a worn clutch plate on manual transmission vehicles.
4. Rattling noise coming from somewhere around the drivers's seat on a bumpy road. Not heard on smooth roads. Feels like a plastic filament rubbing another plastic material..

On #2), there are tons of articles on internet, hundreds of videos on Youtube where Harrier and Safari owners are facing this problem. That said, ASC is reluctant to accept the issue and put some serious head in resolving it. The immediate reaction whenever this is discussed is that "Sir, this is common in large SUVs". On insisting, they did the wheel balancing and wheel alignment in ASC and gave me the report (attaching it) but that did very little in resolving the left-pulling issue. The issue still persists. There are some talks on internet forums and telegram forums about two other things that might help to resolve the issue.. One is steering calibration and the other is some toe adjustment using a specialised tool which only quite a few ASC seem to have across the country. At least, the ASC I am referring to doesn't seem to have any clue on this.

Hi there. Co-incidently I'm facing very similar problems with my 2022 Seltos. There is very significant left biased pull from the steering. Noticable in everyday city driving and very pronounced on the highway. Post 80 kmph.

I complained the same to the service advisor on the first sevice. To which he mentioned that they need to take the car out for 30+ mins to check this issue. I asked him about the resolution if they find the issue to exist. He mentioned that only wheel alignment will be done in the dealership. Since many of my friends were against the dealership doing it I said I will get it done outside.

I'm curious if you have got the wheel balancing & alignment done at Madhus. Please do let me know if anything resolves your issue.

[maddyg]

Originally Posted by firingpistonz

Hi there. Co-incidently I'm facing very similar problems with my 2022 Seltos. There is very significant left biased pull from the steering. Noticable in everyday city driving and very pronounced on the highway. Post 80 kmph.

I'm curious if you have got the wheel balancing & alignment done at Madhus. Please do let me know if anything resolves your issue.

I have had similar issues with 2021 Harrier. Please head to Madhu's , that should take care of the problem.

[firingpistonz]

Originally Posted by maddyg

I have had similar issues with 2021 Harrier. Please head to Madhu's , that should take care of the problem.

Thank you for your response. Will be heading to Madhus, which should hopefully fix the problem.

[sage_sandman]

I was discussing about this with other Harrier owners. It apparently turns out to be something that can only be fixed in Tata ASC. I did not understand the logic though. It seems it has got to do with Caster adjustment and outside vendors like Madhu's will not be able to fix it. I postponed my visit to Madhu's and decided to give it another shot in Tata ASC that is known to have fixed this problem for many Harrier owners in the city I live. I will keep the thread updated when I have it fixed.

[sidzz]

For your harrier pulling towards left, please visit deluxe wheel alignment in bhattrahalli and meet Naumaan. 86602 64764.

He fixed my XUV500's left pulling issue which no one was able to.

He does accurate manual adjustment as opposed to computerrised where there is a margin of tolerance.

[nkrishnap]

The rear toe is off by a good margin. This needs to fixed as it would reduce the thrust angle which could be causing the left pull. Also the Front Camber though within the range, the left wheel is having negative camber and the right has positive. This can be fixed to a major extent, but will require a trial and error method.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

The rear toe is off by a good margin. This needs to fixed as it would reduce the thrust angle which could be causing the left pull.

Hope that is not an error in the report because the vehicle has torsion beam at the rear, I doubt if there is an easy way to sort that out which an alignment shop is likely to attempt on a new vehicle.

[nkrishnap]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

Hope that is not an error in the report because the vehicle has torsion beam at the rear, I doubt if there is an easy way to sort that out which an alignment shop is likely to attempt on a new vehicle.

As mentioned in my previous post, if the readings are right, it still can be corrected to a certain extent.

However, it is advisable to take another reading and take the corrective action.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

As mentioned in my previous post, if the readings are right, it still can be corrected to a certain extent.

However, it is advisable to take another reading and take the corrective action.

How can the rear toe be corrected if the suspension isn't adjustable? Won't it require a new rear axle?

[nkrishnap]

Originally Posted by audioholic

How can the rear toe be corrected if the suspension isn't adjustable? Won't it require a new rear axle?

Usage of shims can help to correct it. I have got my Linea rear toe corrected with the usage of shims.

[GST]

Originally Posted by sage_sandman

...
1. Steering vibration after 100kmph +
2. Vehicle pulling towards left after 100 kmph +
3. When the engine is started and the vehicle is moved, the accelerator pedal feels mild but distinct rough.. The feeling is like a worn clutch plate on manual transmission vehicles..

Thanks for sharing this. I had nearly finalized a Harrier XZ+ and was about to start the process officially of picking one up from the Tata dealer stock, but reading about these niggles made me completely change my mind. In fact, my intuition somehow bugged me really thoroughly the entire night when I had finalized everything including a reasonable sale price for my current car from a known person and good terms of purchase for the Harrier from the dealer.

One thing is the huge expense of around 25L, and then comes a high chance of having to deal with the TASS. I am a person and my experience in life has made me make peace with myself with the belief that I run too low on blessings of luck. So I walked away informing the salesperson that I could not develop enough confidence in the vehicle's reliability to go ahead. I might stay away from car manufacturers with higher unreliability in their products until money becomes a really meaningless routine shuffle, or go the used car route with the assumption that worst coming to shove I would just junk the thing with a tolerable hit on pocket.

[greyhound82]

Originally Posted by GST

I might stay away from car manufacturers with higher unreliability in their products

Wait for new Innova which will go over 30 lakhs or go with Honda city Hybrid