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Hey guys, I came upon this thread when researching ATF change for my 2005 Hyundai Sonata V6 (purchase and rebuild thread (My Pre-Owned 2005 Hyundai Sonata 2.7L V6 | Ownership Review, Restoration & TLC)).

Just wanted to share what I'm going to do.
I enquired with Hyundai and they're selling the recommended ATF (SP-III) at an astounding ₹2,400 per liter. Given that my car will need 7-8L (including power steering fluid that I'll be flushing as well) this amounts to nearly ₹20k on the oil alone!

Thanks to this thread, I have the below options:
Mannol 8209 - ₹1,500/L - Availability is an issue, I don't want to buy from Amazon, have inquired whether they have dealers in my location
Motul Multi ATF - ₹975/L - Readily available with a local dealer.
GS Caltex - Have enquired with them, let's see. If their price is around ₹1,200/L then I'll go for GS Caltex, else I'm buying Motul.

I will not be using OEM because they don't manufacture those oils themselves anyway. Big thanks to posters in this thread for suggesting GS Caltex.
I'll be swapping out the transmission oil filter as well, as the car has done 96k and I don't think the oil or filter have ever been changed.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by ads295

Thanks to this thread, I have the below options:
Mannol 8209 - ₹1,500/L - Availability is an issue, I don't want to buy from Amazon, have inquired whether they have dealers in my location.

Mannol Distributor in Bangalore is accessible. I can PM you the contact if you wish.

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Mannol Distributor in Bangalore is accessible. I can PM you the contact if you wish.

Thanks but the company replied to my e-mail with a direct contact for purchase. It's actually available for ₹950/L direct, instead of ₹1,500/L as currently shown on Amazon

I'm going to go for the Mannol 8209 SP-III confirmed, as its a direct match for the grade required by Hyundai, as well as being German manufactured. (Motul oil is multipurpose and also its made in Vietnam)

[amitmanjul]

Originally Posted by svmvale

As precaution, i got it done at 90,000 kms itself. My FNG said, max load on gear box comes while reversing while in full turn. He was able to feel the difference on my Vento.

Sorry for reviving an old quote but I am very keen to get the oils changed in the gearbox of my Octavia 1.8TSI.

While there are no issues at all with the car currently, I just want to err on the side of caution. It’s done about 40K of mostly highway drives.

May I know where you got this done? I am based out of Bangalore & I believe you are as well.

[Shubh6813]

My Santa Fe has only 40000 kms but is 10 years old and I think it would be perfect time to get ATF changed. I am planning to use Mannol SP-IV ATF as Hyundai genuine one isn't available here and also Mannol being OEM ATF supplier to Hyundai gives me assurance to do so. What procedure did A.S.S follow to change the ATF ? Was it a simple drain and fill or they removed transmission cooler exit lines to remove the old fluid and put the new one ? Any help would be appreciated

[searacer932]

How about for DCTs? Is this applicable for DCTs? for e.g. I have a Kia Sonet DCT.

[Sumedik]

Originally Posted by searacer932

How about for DCTs? Is this applicable for DCTs? for e.g. I have a Kia Sonet DCT.

Every part of every car that has some fluid needs to be replaced as per schedule. This includes DCTs too.

[amitmanjul]

Originally Posted by vishy76

The DQ200 has two oil circuits.

- One is the standard GB oil circuit which is present in the gearbox body itself. It lubricates the cogs and the bearings and also serves to cool the mechatronics externally

- The other is the mechatronics fluid which is hydraulic fluid used to actuate the solenoids

Hi, I have been following this thread with interest & got the gearbox and mechatronic oils changed on my Octavia 1.8TSI (2018 model) at a reputable FNG in Whitefield, Bangalore. For the GB oil, he used Motul SAE 75W90. For the mechatronic he used the recommended VAG oil. Attaching the 2 image of the oils used. Trust these are the right ones

[top_gear]

Looking for some help for ATF fluid suitable alternate for i10.

Need advice :

1. Alternative for ATF MX4
2. Any other better ATF fluid to be used? considering next change will be after 5 years.
3. Any other tips during process like ATF flush etc? I will be changing filter as well.
4. I am planning to use Liqui Moly 1200 ATF as alternative. https://www.liqui-moly.com/fileadmin...0227_ctx-1.pdf

[amitmanjul]

Background
My Octavia 1.8TSI (2018 model) has done about 45K Kms over the last 6.5 years of almost trouble-free ownership (apart from a water pump change at 30K kms). Over the years I have also spent quite a pile on upgrades (tuning, PS4 tyres, Bilstein B6s, alloys, intercooler & intakes, seats from Saddles etc).

I was in 2 minds - whether to continue with the car for another few years or to sell it off. The issue was firmly decided by the home minister who absolutely put her foot down on purchasing a new car.

With the decision made, I proceeded to give it some TLC with a fresh pair of BBS shoes as well as preventive maintenance on the DQ200 gearbox & mechatronic unit with an oil change.

The wheels were purchased from PJ Speedshop on my behalf by Madhus who did the installation as well. Flawless as always.


For the oil changes I opted for a reputed FNG in the Hoodi area. He came recommended by quite a few BHPians on the forum. However, both the GB & the mechatronic oils were not original VAG as I had anticipated. These were from other OEM manufacturers. While I was assured that the oils used were actually OEM+, I was not ready to compromise on my peace of mind, specially given the notoriety of the DQ200 gearbox.

After a few days, I contacted my regular FNG in JP Nagar, Mithun from Forza motors & he agreed to change the oils, with the option of either one of us procuring the oils.

I bought the oils from Boodmo which were delivered within 3 days. (The FNG can get it within 24 hrs from Skoda directly). Attaching pics of the exact oils as well as the entire process, in case anyone is interested in this preventive maintenance. (could not click pics of mechatronic oil change as I had to step out for some work)

Feedback post the oil change

1. Huge peace of mind, now that the original VW oils have been used
2, Driving - while earlier too, I did not really have any shuddering in the lower gears, it has become noticeably smoother & slicker now. Hopefully this should extend the life of my DQ200 for a few more years. Fingers crossed!!!

I can wholeheartedly recommend this preventive maintenance, just ensure to get the VW oils.

With the new wheels


Gear box oil (1.9 ltrs required)


Mechatronic oil (1 ltr)


Battery removed to access the filling point of GB oil


Existing oil being drained


GB oil being poured in

[Mortis]

Originally Posted by amitmanjul

Hi, I have been following this thread with interest & got the gearbox and mechatronic oils changed on my Octavia 1.8TSI (2018 model) at a reputable FNG in Whitefield, Bangalore. For the GB oil, he used Motul SAE 75W90. For the mechatronic he used the recommended VAG oil. Attaching the 2 image of the oils used. Trust these are the right ones

Don't want to alarm you and hopefully someone else may chime in.
The oil you have used could possibly be wrong. It seems to be a synthetic oil and if I'm not wrong the mechatronic oil was changed from synthetic to mineral (power steering hydraulic fluid) as one of the solutions for one type of mechatronic failure - control unit corrosion due to sulphur content of the synthetic oil.

However I'm not sure if the one you have used has low or zero sulphur and could be safe. I have also seen some mechatronic service kits on foreign websites which include a synthetic oil. Because of this I am unsure about if and which synthetic oils are compatible. I can say for sure that the mineral oil is.

[amitmanjul]

Originally Posted by Mortis

Don't want to alarm you and hopefully someone else may chime in.
The oil you have used could possibly be wrong.

I had the same thoughts & to enjoy peace of mind, I got them changed with the original VW oils within a few days at another FNG. Could not take risks with such costly parts. Posting this development soon on the forum

[top_gear]

Originally Posted by clevermax

I was doing some more research on what ATF spec to use. What I learned:


2) I still need to find out what is the present spec in my AT box (Verna 1.6D 6-Speed AT). Hyundai website says ATF MX4, and as per this post in team-bhp,



it is nothing but SP3. However, the post is talking about models prior to 2011 with a 4S tranny. Mine is a 2017 September model (NextGen) and thus, I am still not sure.

So ATF MX4 is same as SP III or atleast interchangeable? This way, a good brand SP III oil can be used instead of ATF MX4. With this information, i can proceed with https://www.mannol.de/products/atf-p...nol-atf-sp-iii MANNOL ATF SP-III 8209 for my i10 2015 with 95,000 Kms done. This also opens up option of " Liqui Moly 1200 G Top Tec Atf Transmission Oil" again SP III compatible.

[clevermax]

Originally Posted by top_gear

So ATF MX4 is same as SP III or atleast interchangeable? This way, a good brand SP III oil can be used instead of ATF MX4. With this information, i can proceed with https://www.mannol.de/products/atf-p...nol-atf-sp-iii MANNOL ATF SP-III 8209 for my i10 2015 with 95,000 Kms done. This also opens up option of " Liqui Moly 1200 G Top Tec Atf Transmission Oil" again SP III compatible.

Change it with the recommended Hyundai original ATF itself, if you can. I have decided to do that instead of getting a third party brand.

For my car (Verna 1.6D AT 2017-18), it is not SP3, it is SP4. A picture of the Hyundai original ATF can be seen in this post:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ml#post5484701 (Why you should periodically change your Automatic Transmission Fluid (even if "sealed for life"))

[ssjr0498]

Oil change for the ZF transmission has a specific procedure, like starting the car and running through the gears, waiting to reach an optimum temp and then again refill (if needed). Trust you followed that while changing it for the first time and hopefully it will be done again!

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

We all know that our Indian Operating Conditions and Start-Stop Traffic and all are very hard on our cars. The Cooper S R56 uses an Aisin Warner 6 Speed TC AT Gearbox and this definitely needs to be cared for periodically.