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It's always heartening to see a car owner take matters into their own hands. If we had more of us, spare parts and tools dealers would flourish. In developed countries the cost of labour is so high that there are entire ecosystems dedicated to DIY repair, not to mention the right to repair consortiums that keep companies on their toes.

Kudos.

Can you share where you bought the parts from? And from which country were they imported?

[lapis_lazuli]

Marvelous, courageous, inspirational: amazing repair! It is quite disheartening to read of VWs poor warranty support. But what you have accomplished, Viraat, is viraat! Congratulations and Kudos to your persistence, research and your ability to find a good garage and mechanic. With Germans, FNG is the way to go, as has been discussed umpteen number of times here.

[Epic]

Originally Posted by Viraat13

Anyway, the short version is that:

• the multiclutch was cooked @ 58k kms
• I was getting appalling goodwill warranty
• and VW wanted me to pay them 1L for this job after including their pittance of a gesture of goodwill warranty

@Viraat13
Fantastic write up & very informative.

Just wanted to ask, what were the symptoms that you experienced which led you to diagnose that the flywheel was the problem?

I have a 2015 VW Jetta DSG (48 kms run) and a 2016 Skoda Superb L&K (60 kms run) and face a judder when the car is in neutral. It is very prominent on the Superb but negligible in the Jetta. This judder appears only once the car is hot after running a good 30-30 kms.

[keroo1099]

Well done Viraat. Kudos to you and your mechanic for doing your research, going through some heartache, but in the end fixing the problem and probably feeling like you've won the world cup.

I doff my hat to you.

[Viraat13]

Originally Posted by ads295

Can you share where you bought the parts from? And from which country were they imported?

Thanks for the kind words. The parts were bought from the automotive hub of Kashmere Gate, I'd managed to get in touch with LUK directly through a personal contact. The country of origin for both the parts is Germany.

Originally Posted by lapis_lazuli

Marvelous, courageous, inspirational: amazing repair! It is quite disheartening to read of VWs poor warranty support. But what you have accomplished, Viraat, is viraat! .

Thanks! It does feel quite good to have fixed something that's considered so daunting.

Originally Posted by Epic

Just wanted to ask, what were the symptoms that you experienced which led you to diagnose that the flywheel was the problem?

I have a 2015 VW Jetta DSG (48 kms run) and a 2016 Skoda Superb L&K (60 kms run) and face a judder when the car is in neutral. It is very prominent on the Superb but negligible in the Jetta. This judder appears only once the car is hot after running a good 30-30 kms.

There was a very very loud metallic trashing noise from the car - it didn't come at P, but when we switched to D it would start and didn't stop even in P unless the car was switched off. There are a few other noises that can be attributed to the flywheel, which usually come on the move.

The Jetta 2.0 has a 6 speed DQ250 which is a far more reliable transmission. The Superb 1.8 TSI has the same DQ200 transmission as the Polo. Either way the judder could be related to a worn out transmission mount.

Originally Posted by keroo1099

Well done Viraat. Kudos to you and your mechanic for doing your research, going through some heartache, but in the end fixing the problem and probably feeling like you've won the world cup.

I doff my hat to you.

Thank you so much. I'm actually really pleased about the entire thing, and I'd love to dance on VW's head about what a poor job they're doing, but I don't want to jinx the fix.

[RJK]

Superb Thread, Viraat!
This knowledge can certainly help fence-sitters (I was one & decide against the risk) to go ahead & buy a Skoda with the DQ200 box. Knowing there's a resolution & one which is doable by aftermarket builds a lot of confidence.

Cheers

[vikrantshete]

Originally Posted by Viraat13

The gearbox out, at the VW workshop where the diagnosis was confirmed to be the clutch pack. (Note the debris of the worn out clutch all within the bellhousing.)

Great work! Had not read earlier about any DIY in India. Had seen youtube video suggestions from Europe but never bothered to look as my DSG is fine as of now. Raises hope that maybe DSG repairs could be possible but not really sure if I'll be able to find a reliable mechanic when and if (likely to sell mine) time comes for me.

Read your posts about your ownership. I am wondering if it is even worth considering a VW/Skoda car for sake of solid build, driving dynamics and in case of some people reciting the punch lines shot by the sales guys

I don't think it is worth for someone who is looking for a fun to drive comfortable highway tourer unless they know about all that people post on this forum.

I don't quite agree that a car at the price point of 10-12L should have such outrageously high repair cost.

If window motor repairs costed you 9K odd for a polo I wonder what that would be for my 1.8TSI Octavia.

Eventually after warranty has expired things are quite expensive with VW and with those unreliable expensive parts in general (not talking about power window motor in particular) I don't think VW or Skoda cannot be a long term vehicle for even those who love to drive. I am really not inclined to buy another VW group car. In my opinion it's just not worth it in India.

[Viraat13]

Originally Posted by vikrantshete

Great work! Had not read earlier about any DIY in India. Had seen Youtube video suggestions from Europe but never bothered to look as my DSG is fine as of now. Raises hope that maybe DSG repairs could be possible but not really sure if I'll be able to find a reliable mechanic when and if (likely to sell mine) time comes for me.

Read your posts about your ownership. I am wondering if it is even worth considering a VW/Skoda car for sake of solid build, driving dynamics and in case of some people reciting the punch lines shot by the sales guys

I don't think it is worth for someone who is looking for a fun to drive comfortable highway tourer unless they know about all that people post on this forum.

I don't quite agree that a car at the price point of 10-12L should have such outrageously high repair cost.

If window motor repairs costed you 9K odd for a polo I wonder what that would be for my 1.8TSI Octavia.

Eventually after warranty has expired things are quite expensive with VW and with those unreliable expensive parts in general (not talking about power window motor in particular) I don't think VW or Skoda cannot be a long term vehicle for even those who love to drive. I am really not inclined to buy another VW group car. In my opinion it's just not worth it in India.

I will simply call it the cost of being an enthusiast, nothing further. The power window motor didn't really need to be changed, it was a poor diagnosis, but not my money so it didn't matter.

There are a very few things that don't have some sort of fix in the aftermarket, of course it can take time to fix some problems and one has to be willing to invest either money or time - for everything else there is a Toyota Corolla around the corner.

[vikrantshete]

Originally Posted by Viraat13

I will simply call it the cost of being an enthusiast, nothing further.

......

There are a very few things that don't have some sort of fix in the aftermarket, of course it can take time to fix some problems and one has to be willing to invest either money or time - for everything else there is a Toyota Corolla around the corner.

I guess that sums it up

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I have driven innova MT and AT but the body roll is too much. Managed to get Harrier BS4 for self drive but there is lot body roll on narrow roads that are not well levelled. Got a BS4 jeep compass TD but didn't get idea about body roll on those narrow roads at 50-60 Kmph as such roads cannot be encountered in a TD. Not sure if a more comfortable car than Octavia can be found for replacement. I had been having thoughts in multiple directions but given that Octavia has 4 more years of warranty left probably I might keep it, though service experience is not really something to boast of.

[Dr.Vikas]

Originally Posted by Viraat13

I am really happy to have the Polo back on the road after 2 long months, and catching up on the kms. I've driven around 200km in the 3 days since I've had the car back with me, and I couldn't have been more pleased with the results!

Great fix, nicely written, IViraat13 !
It's not only you but the entire VAG+DSG tribe here, would have been happy and also have relieved a bit with your successful 'adventure' !!
Thanks to the ASC for not approving your Warranty claim. (Pun intended)

This thread is going to be pinned by many of the DSG owners, for sure.

Wish you many miles with your Polo and all the very best, 👍
Keep updating,

[Almoral]

Great DIY thread. I don't own a VW. But, considering the threads we have on DSG failures, this thread is something VW owners should bookmark. Ofcourse, not all of the users would like or can do the job themselves but, at least they can know what needs to be done in case they opting for a FNG to handle this.

Thanks Viraat.

[sarfraz1997]

Originally Posted by vikrantshete

Read your posts about your ownership. I am wondering if it is even worth considering a VW/Skoda car for sake of solid build, driving dynamics and in case of some people reciting the punch lines shot by the sales guys

I don't think it is worth for someone who is looking for a fun to drive comfortable highway tourer unless they know about all that people post on this forum.

I don't quite agree that a car at the price point of 10-12L should have such outrageously high repair cost.

If window motor repairs costed you 9K odd for a polo I wonder what that would be for my 1.8TSI Octavia.

Eventually after warranty has expired things are quite expensive with VW and with those unreliable expensive parts in general (not talking about power window motor in particular) I don't think VW or Skoda cannot be a long term vehicle for even those who love to drive. I am really not inclined to buy another VW group car. In my opinion it's just not worth it in India.

This is true only for cars equipped with DQ200. Other cars with manual gearboxes and other DSG’s are pretty reliable. All these cars need is timely maintenance. Saying this with the experience of having owned 10+ year old VW and Skoda’s.

However, yes, repair costs incase of a gearbox failure are expensive considering a car worth 10-12lakhs odd OTR.

[BNG-motorhead]

Good post, I know how this feels, I own a 10yr old Skoda Fabia which I now self maintain.

2 Questions:
1. Is there a magnetic patch inside the GB to catch clutch debris? Or is the nut magnetic
2. Did you consider referring a manual like Haynes or something?

I have a manual, have not changed the transmission oil till date. What would your recommendation be? some say dont else it would make the clutch slip, others say do it for better performance. The car has done 73K till date.

Thanks for sharing.

[Viraat13]

Originally Posted by BNG-motorhead

Good post, I know how this feels, I own a 10yr old Skoda Fabia which I now self maintain.

2 Questions:
1. Is there a magnetic patch inside the GB to catch clutch debris? Or is the nut magnetic
2. Did you consider referring a manual like Haynes or something?

I have a manual, have not changed the transmission oil till date. What would your recommendation be? some say dont else it would make the clutch slip, others say do it for better performance. The car has done 73K till date.

Thanks for sharing.

Hi,
The answer to both your questions is no.

I think changing the transmission oil would be a good thing, and you don't have anything to worry about. The Fabia has a 5 speed transmission IIRC, and I believe it uses the regular 75W90 grade of oil. In fact, I will be changing the gear oil of my Laura TSI MT in the next couple of days too.

[BNG-motorhead]

Originally Posted by Viraat13

Hi,
The answer to both your questions is no.

I think changing the transmission oil would be a good thing, and you don't have anything to worry about. The Fabia has a 5 speed transmission IIRC, and I believe it uses the regular 75W90 grade of oil. In fact, I will be changing the gear oil of my Laura TSI MT in the next couple of days too.

Thanks, do lemme know which oil you source . Tried skoda and vw, both service centers denied off the counter sale. I don’t trust boodmo or other online portals yet so considering shell’s spirax s2 sourced from shell a petrol pump. My issue is it’s 1/4 the cost of what VW/Skoda uses. I understand they have long life variant, but would shell be that bad? I dunno yet but wanting to find out.