[audioholic]

Originally Posted by gadadhar

Is Adblue available only with Service centres and online in Bangalore/KA? I find it very difficult to refill it in Bangalore

Kerala has numerous outlets with dispenser pumps similar to fuel pumps and it is very easy and convenient to get a refill. I saw it even in few fuel-stations as well in Kerala

I found the same in MH petrol bunks as well. However I am trying hard to find one in Bangalore and around so that I could top up the Crystas Adblue from a dispenser but was not able to find one so far.

If anyone comes across a bunk which has an Adblue dispenser please share its details. If its suitable then I will visit it once every 5k kms or so and top up the Adblue instead of waiting for the warning light to pop up and getting those cans.

[condor]

Went through the thread, but seeing posts mostly about the Crysta, some Seltos, and some Mahindra's. Any experiences for other brands like Tata (BS6 Harrier/Safari), or any others ?

[audioholic]

After a long time of refilling Adblue through cans and having to go through the process of buying the can, filling it up with a funnel and taking care of spillage etc, got the opportunity to fill it with a dispenser in a HP Petrol bunk where we incidentally had to stop. The Adblue warning light had just come and it took about 8 liters. It was also cheaper than the Toyota Adblue which retails for 100 a liter while this was half the price. A tedious task got converted to a five minute refill just like filling diesel.

From now on no more can refills for me.

[Innysta]

Originally Posted by audioholic

got the opportunity to fill it with a dispenser in a HP Petrol bunk where we incidentally had to stop. A tedious task got converted to a five minute refill just like filling diesel. From now on no more can refills for me. Attachment 2638826

Great to hear about such facility, wish it's spread across other fuel outlets like filling tyre pressure. While the composition may be the same (Urea blend), does it make the warranty void? Any subtle change in vehicle performance?

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by Innysta

Great to hear about such facility, wish it's spread across other fuel outlets like filling tyre pressure. While the composition may be the same (Urea blend), does it make the warranty void? Any subtle change in vehicle performance?

Change in adblue has nothing to do with vehicle performance nor warranty. I have been using different brands like Toyota, Shell, BP and now HP Adblue. There is no difference. Only if the Urea concentration is less due to some reason, then more Adblue would be consumed. Other than that there will be no difference.

[sud]

Originally Posted by audioholic

After a long time of refilling Adblue through cans and having to go through the process of buying the can, filling it up with a funnel and taking care of spillage etc, got the opportunity to fill it with a dispenser in a HP Petrol bunk where we incidentally had to stop. The Adblue warning light had just come and it took about 8 liters. It was also cheaper than the Toyota Adblue which retails for 100 a liter while this was half the price. A tedious task got converted to a five minute refill just like filling diesel.

From now on no more can refills for me.
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This is great. It will be a hassle free solution otherwise it is a pain always. Do they auto have auto cut off? Is this in Bangalore? If so which outlet offers this?

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by sud

This is great. It will be a hassle free solution otherwise it is a pain always. Do they auto have auto cut off? Is this in Bangalore? If so which outlet offers this?

I have seen lot of bunks on highways to have this. Where I filled was nesr Devanahalli on the way back to Bengaluru(the one with Cafe Coffee day). It does have auto cutoff but I was able to fill a liter above that since auto cutoff happened at 7L and I topped it up until i could see Adblue at the neck. However care must be taken to keep the nozzle pointed upwards until it reaches the filler neck to prevent any residue adblue from spilling in the engine bay. But overall very convenient and hassle free.

[Col Mehta]

Hello fellow members,

Posting it from the Seltos thread as it seems to be a more appropriate thread for the discussion:

Our Seltos D AT has done 3000 kms in just about a month. And that's the running we had in mind to check the DPF soot level. I understand it's a little early, but we wanted to evaluate things at the initial stage of ownership and see if we need to change our driving pattern/style.

So we have had a mix of city drives and highway runs (40:60) with mixed traffic conditions (open roads to heavy traffic). We have been driving in the range of 1.5-2.5k RPM whenever possible while trying to maintain a speed of 60kmph and above, again whenever possible. City drives see low speeds at low RPMs while highway drives are spirited. With this pattern so far, we went to a nearby Kia SC and this is what we found:



The senior technician we spoke with mentioned that it's normal as the maximum limit is 200% (I remember reading somewhere that it is 250?). He suggested to warm up the engine in the morning and idle it for a couple of minutes after a drive, which we always do. He also mentioned that as long as we take it for regular highway drives while maintaining decent speed and RPM, we don't necessarily have to drive with heavy foot.

Experts: what do you think of DPF soot level as 38% at this stage and the suggestions made by the technician? Your inputs will be highly appreciated.

[buzzy_boy]

IIUC, DPF soot level is not cumulative. This means the soot can either be burned away or washed away with AdBlue. So, the current status is a point-in-time value that can go up or down as you keep driving.

The best precautions for avoiding soot buildup:

1. Using quality fuel

2. Avoiding frequent short trips

3. Regular servicing



You don't have to maintain high revs until your vehicle needs regeneration—you'd just be wasting fuel.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by buzzy_boy

the soot can either be burned away or washed away with AdBlue.

Adblue has nothing to do with the DPF. It is used in the SCR system to reduce NOx into Nitrogen and Oxygen. Soot in the DPF has to be burned by whatever means it takes.

Originally Posted by Col Mehta

The senior technician we spoke with mentioned that it's normal as the maximum limit is 200% (I remember reading somewhere that it is 250?). He suggested to warm up the engine in the morning and idle it for a couple of minutes after a drive, which we always do. He also mentioned that as long as we take it for regular highway drives while maintaining decent speed and RPM, we don't necessarily have to drive with heavy foot.

Experts: what do you think of DPF soot level as 38% at this stage and the suggestions made by the technician? Your inputs will be highly appreciated.

The data clearly shows that its just 40kms since the last regeneration cycle. The soot load accumulated in this 40kms is 38%, so roughly 1% per km. The last regen was at 2451kms and this was the 17th regen that happened. This translates to an auto regen happening every 144kms in your case. Since the car has been driven in conditions suitable for DPF, the regenerations are happening without any manual intervention needed.

[Col Mehta]

Originally Posted by buzzy_boy

IIUC, DPF soot level is not cumulative. This means the soot can either be burned away or washed away with AdBlue. So, the current status is a point-in-time value that can go up or down as you keep driving.

The best precautions for avoiding soot buildup:

1. Using quality fuel

2. Avoiding frequent short trips

3. Regular servicing



You don't have to maintain high revs until your vehicle needs regeneration—you'd just be wasting fuel.

This makes sense that the soot level is not cumulative, and it will fluctuate. Thank you.

Originally Posted by audioholic

The data clearly shows that its just 40kms since the last regeneration cycle. The soot load accumulated in this 40kms is 38%, so roughly 1% per km. The last regen was at 2451kms and this was the 17th regen that happened. This translates to an auto regen happening every 144kms in your case. Since the car has been driven in conditions suitable for DPF, the regenerations are happening without any manual intervention needed.

Thank you. Quick question - I didn't notice it earlier, but after your reply, can't stop thinking that the numbers are not adding up. When we clicked this picture, the car had run ~3,000 kms (I think it was 2,9xx kms). The diagnostic tool says the last regen happened at 2,451 kms and the car had run another 40kms since then. That means the ODO must be close to 2,500 kms only (2,451+40) at the time this picture. Where did rest of 500 kms go? Did it not count them in? Am I not reading it right, or my old age is getting to me ?

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by Col Mehta

I didn't notice it earlier, but after your reply, can't stop thinking that the numbers are not adding up. When we clicked this picture, the car had run ~3,000 kms (I think it was 2,9xx kms). The diagnostic tool says the last regen happened at 2,451 kms and the car had run another 40kms since then. That means the ODO must be close to 2,500 kms only (2,451+40) at the time this picture. Where did rest of 500 kms go? Did it not count them in? Am I not reading it right, or my old age is getting to me ?

Not sure how it can be explained. But the OBD can’t be wrong. There could be a mismatch between the odo reading on the ECM versus what you see in the cluster as both of them have their own counter. Since your cluster reads more than what the ECM does, you don’t have to worry about it. Maybe the ECM has a fixed deduction for transport mode and reduces it.