[gpa]

Originally Posted by akroy

Seems, All 2006 Altos are facing early clutch damage.

Hi there,

Was your car manufactured in 2006? Because like Abhi mentioned, many 2006 cars are now giving problems with their clutch. My friend who also drives an Alto mentioned that his clutch snapped at around 27,000 kms, which is when I told him Abhi's experience.

Guess, with a component such as a clutch, it is only after a certain time/usage that the problems start if it is indeed a manufacturing fault.

Guys, any ideas on how to deal with something like this?

Cheers,

gpa

[jinojohnt]

Originally Posted by mail4ajo

Didnt want to create a new thread for this:

My car has run 25K+ kms. The service for the period completed. The clutch has become very hard. There is no other problem, just its quite hard like a old diesel car. I replaced the gear oil at 20K kms.

1. Can the clutch cable be lubricated or replaced to free the pedal?

I regularly get the clutch cable of my Cielo lubricated (every 5000 km) because otherwise the clutch becomes slightly harder and also gives out the sound of metal scraping.

I wanted to do the same thing on my Alto clutch cable (it's almost 18000 km), but the Service Center guy is trying to scare me off by saying that it's not supposed to be done for the Alto. Even if you do it, he says that dirt will start accumulating in the cable housing and the clutch would become harder again.

Has any of you lubricated the clutch cable of an Alto? Has the clutch 'feel' improved after this?

[jinojohnt]

Originally Posted by Knight Rider

Before you buy ,check if the car knocks when the AC is on, Many fellow bhpians are finding it difficult to cope-up with,Not really sure if this issue is there on the new versions....Anyways give it a shot
Best of luck

I have found that if I switch on the a/c in my Alto Lxi when going in first gear at steep down slopes (say 30 degrees down), the car slows down as if we have applied sudden brake. Please note that this decceleration is present only when the compressor starts running.

Has anybody experienced this?

I have also noticed that if I park the car at a slope (I mean if the car is parked 'slanting sideways', it becomes difficult to close the passenger door/ hatch door because of wrong alignment of the locks. Is it true for all cars?

[911turbo]

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

I have found that if I switch on the a/c in my Alto Lxi when going in first gear at steep down slopes (say 30 degrees down), the car slows down as if we have applied sudden brake. Please note that this decceleration is present only when the compressor starts running.

Has anybody experienced this?

I have also noticed that if I park the car at a slope (I mean if the car is parked 'slanting sideways', it becomes difficult to close the passenger door/ hatch door because of wrong alignment of the locks. Is it true for all cars?

The car generally slows down as ALto comes with a small heart 800 CC... compressor is 110CC.. So it tends to reduce speed as soon as the ac is switched on...

And for the doors .. it happens for almost all cars.. Both the conditions are normal... no need to worry.. Enjoy your ride.

[drsnt]

i am considering to purchase euro 4 alto but i read that it has fuel pump issues. pl suggest should i go for it or if possible differ buying till kb series engine is introduced? or go for spark if kb series engine is far away?

[blackfire_9]

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

I regularly get the clutch cable of my Cielo lubricated (every 5000 km) because otherwise the clutch becomes slightly harder and also gives out the sound of metal scraping.

I wanted to do the same thing on my Alto clutch cable (it's almost 18000 km), but the Service Center guy is trying to scare me off by saying that it's not supposed to be done for the Alto. Even if you do it, he says that dirt will start accumulating in the cable housing and the clutch would become harder again.

Has any of you lubricated the clutch cable of an Alto? Has the clutch 'feel' improved after this?

I am not sure, however having owned the Alto for almost 6.5 years now, I can say that the clutch is one of the weakest areas of the Alto. The 800's clutch was more durable/sturdy/long-lasting.

I have run my car around 1.35 lacs now, & I have given her a new clutch twice & she is again looking for a new set.

Originally Posted by drsnt

i am considering to purchase euro 4 alto but i read that it has fuel pump issues. pl suggest should i go for it or if possible differ buying till kb series engine is introduced? or go for spark if kb series engine is far away?

Where did you hear this? Can you quote the source of this information.

[drsnt]

Originally Posted by blackfire_9

I am not sure, however having owned the Alto for almost 6.5 years now, I can say that the clutch is one of the weakest areas of the Alto. The 800's clutch was more durable/sturdy/long-lasting.

I have run my car around 1.35 lacs now, & I have given her a new clutch twice & she is again looking for a new set.



Where did you hear this? Can you quote the source of this information.

it was mentioned in thread regarding new "KB series engine alto"

[Dieseled]

Originally Posted by gpa

Hi there,

Was your car manufactured in 2006? Because like Abhi mentioned, many 2006 cars are now giving problems with their clutch. My friend who also drives an Alto mentioned that his clutch snapped at around 27,000 kms, which is when I told him Abhi's experience.

Guess, with a component such as a clutch, it is only after a certain time/usage that the problems start if it is indeed a manufacturing fault.

Guys, any ideas on how to deal with something like this?

Cheers,

gpa

Mine was Jan 2005 and the clutch lasted only 27K.

[harishnayak]

Originally Posted by Dieseled

Mine was Jan 2005 and the clutch lasted only 27K.

Mine is 2006 and the clutch gave way at 37 k kms. Only spent about rs 1800 as the labour charges were waived off ( complimentary by DD motors ).

Were there clutch issues with the 2006 alto? Am i to assume that this was the reason why they waived off the labour charges ( Around 100 bucks )?

[blackfire_9]

Originally Posted by drsnt

it was mentioned in thread regarding new "KB series engine alto"

Thanks man, will check it out.

[jinojohnt]

Originally Posted by harishnayak

Mine is 2006 and the clutch gave way at 37 k kms. Only spent about rs 1800 as the labour charges were waived off ( complimentary by DD motors ).

Were there clutch issues with the 2006 alto? Am i to assume that this was the reason why they waived off the labour charges ( Around 100 bucks )?

I was charged 1000 Rs (labour alone) for replacing my Alto (2008) clutch. I think this was too much, but I also feel that 100 Rs is too low.

[blackfire_9]

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

I was charged 1000 Rs (labour alone) for replacing my Alto (2008) clutch. I think this was too much, but I also feel that 100 Rs is too low.

Hey buddy,

How much did you pay in total? It's been some time but I remember having paid an amount between 3500 & 4000 rupees every time I had to get the clutch replaced. Mine's a 2004 Alto.

Drive safe.

[guptavis]

Hello all,

I am going for 20K service of my Alto Lx soon. Thought of taking some of my own things this time.
After reading gpa and Gansan's threads. Thought of NGK Spark Plugs. According to advice here : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...l-g-power.html
I bought three normal ngk plugs at Rs 90 each.

Also bought a 3L can of Total Quartz 5000 (15W40) for Rs 600 (MRP 689 MFD 9/2010) from Distributor. It says "exceeds the performance requirements of API SL and ACEA A3/B3". Total Quartz 3000 20W50 was priced at Rs 560 but i thought 50 was too thick.

I also enquired about GearOil and was shown ELF oil 1L pack for Rs190. It was GL-4 but it was monograde 90. The manual recommends 75W90 or 80W90. The distributor said everyone buys the same oil and it is the only one from elf.
I declined and he said his cousin is a dealer for mobil and he will ask him on the phone.
He said mobil also has same single viscosity oil and was available at Rs 180/L. He appeared to be quite knowledgeable.
Anyone have any first hand experience about what brand and grade gear oil do MASS put?

Also am thinking of Coolant and Brake Oil. What do MASS use? Are they good or should i take my own coolant and brake oil too.

There is a thread for Swift 20k service here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...20-000-km.html
but not for the Alto. Being such a common car and the most selling i think we can make one for alto too.

That thread is in the Indian Car Dealerships section but i think this is more appropriate. If not then move it to the desired section.

[jalex77]

Originally Posted by guptavis

Hello all,

I am going for 20K service of my Alto Lx soon. Thought of taking some of my own things this time.
After reading gpa and Gansan's threads. Thought of NGK Spark Plugs. According to advice here : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...l-g-power.html
I bought three normal ngk plugs at Rs 90 each.

Also bought a 3L can of Total Quartz 5000 (15W40) for Rs 600 (MRP 689 MFD 9/2010) from Distributor. It says "exceeds the performance requirements of API SL and ACEA A3/B3". Total Quartz 3000 20W50 was priced at Rs 560 but i thought 50 was too thick.

I also enquired about GearOil and was shown ELF oil 1L pack for Rs190. It was GL-4 but it was monograde 90. The manual recommends 75W90 or 80W90. The distributor said everyone buys the same oil and it is the only one from elf.
I declined and he said his cousin is a dealer for mobil and he will ask him on the phone.
He said mobil also has same single viscosity oil and was available at Rs 180/L. He appeared to be quite knowledgeable.
Anyone have any first hand experience about what brand and grade gear oil do MASS put?

Also am thinking of Coolant and Brake Oil. What do MASS use? Are they good or should i take my own coolant and brake oil too.

I've been using Castrol for all my vehicles since 94, never once changed the brand and I am quite satisfied with it.

For my Alto I use Castrol GTX 20w50 engine oil, Castrol Protector Series Manual Gear Oil SAE 90 EP,Castrol Protector Series heavy duty coolant and Castrol Universal Brake Fluid DOT 3.

I never use MASS oils cause they still will charge almost premium brand money and will be using the lowest priced oils which though adheres to the manufacturer's requirements will get them the highest margins.

[jkdas]

Let's GO check your owner's manual.
It should have checklist of stuff one need to change during various service intervals.