The Fuel Additives Thread

greenhorn · 7th January 2010, 17:44

deepclutch, I always fill diesel for 500/1k rs. I use 1 or 2 capfuls correspondingly.

A view that has been bought up recently is that once you start giving your car system D, it sort of becomes addicted, and becomes notably worse if you stop using it.

is this true? I've noticed this, but i thought the engine was really that rough otherwise

Mr_Bean · 7th January 2010, 17:50

System-G for petrol is 300/- & for diesel is 250/-.. Don't know why such a price difference.

There is a lot more effect (smoothness, pickup) in adding premium petrol than system-G with normal petrol..

condor · 7th January 2010, 18:10

Guys, reg the choice of premium & normal petrol to go with your System-G : Pls try out what works for you, for your car.

vdiatech · 7th January 2010, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Mr_Bean

There is a lot more effect (smoothness, pickup) in adding premium petrol than system-G with normal petrol..

I would second this , my car seems to perform better ( both in terms of FE and response ) on Shell Super Unleaded than normal shell U/L + System G !

I am contemplating the use of System G ( after a year ) now and would go for shell super U/L only.

ruchirtnt · 9th January 2010, 18:26

Is it so that different fiesta react differently on choosing the right U/L, and i always thought that they are mere machines.

condor · 9th January 2010, 18:56

@Ruchir, no two machines will remain same once they are used. The handling is different, and fuel quality can change.

flipsyde · 9th January 2010, 19:33

Just completed one bottle of System G on the Corolla. After one tank of fuel + System G (50 Liters + 50 ml) I have noticed the idle RPM has dropped to 600-750 RPM from the earlier 1000. Also felt the throttle response improved and so did the mileage.

The car has done about 77k kms and I guess the System G managed to unclog the injectors. I would recommend System G with normal unleaded fuel. Never tried any other combination though.

I mostly fill from BP.

ravibhat · 9th January 2010, 19:55

System G works great with normal fuel also Shell Premium Petrol. Both gave me similar results on Alto and Safari or any vehicle I tried till date. I recommand System G either regular basis or once in a while.

Regards,

Ravi.

bullboy · 9th January 2010, 22:24

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Jaggu, even my TDCi Ikon likes it !

Condor, little bit more on this please .

vigsom · 9th January 2010, 22:34

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Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

I think that using a premium petrol and using a normal petrol with system G is the same thing cost wise and may be technically also.
Then why to bear the pain of putting system G religiously every time or is there some added benefits as well.

Is there a cost advantage SystemG+unleaded vs premium? What I mean is one litre(unleaded+1ml sysG) cheaper than 1 litre speed?

condor · 9th January 2010, 22:41

@Bullboy, I am using System-D in the Ikon TDCi. FE is definitely better with System-D than without it.

Usually pick it up from the Ford dealer, and works for both - the Ikon & the Sumo.

@Vigsom, check it out how it works for your car. If FE is better with System-G & unlead, - and more than what you get with plain unleaded premium, then you will know for your car.

ruchirtnt · 10th January 2010, 15:30

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Originally Posted by vigsom

Is there a cost advantage SystemG+unleaded vs premium? What I mean is one litre(unleaded+1ml sysG) cheaper than 1 litre speed?

I think it is almost the same.

Raccoon · 11th January 2010, 02:18

Cost of using System G is about 1.5 per litre. That makes it lower than premium petrol.

However, in practice, I think I end up using somewhat more (so actual cost comes out higher), as I have to estimate the quantity required, as it has to be dunked in before you start filling gas.

condor · 11th January 2010, 07:30

@Racoon, I add System-D after I fill. But my filling is always a top-up, till the neck of the tank. This way even when I add after filling, all the additive goes into the fuel.

Also, my FE is very consistent, so the error is not much in my case.

Mr_Bean · 11th January 2010, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Cost of using System G is about 1.5 per litre. That makes it lower than premium petrol.

However, in practice, I think I end up using somewhat more (so actual cost comes out higher), as I have to estimate the quantity required, as it has to be dunked in before you start filling gas.

If I understand you, you are not able to decide on the amount of System G to pour before filling the tank.

At what stage do you top up the tank? Mid way or the very end? I feel the new generation cars would give an good estimation of how much additive to be poured on the tank. (e.g.) On my baleno, if I decide to fill when the needle is at the very end (red), I would land up somewhere around 38-42 litres..

Old esteem were notorious for showing incorrect fuel in the tank.

7th January 2010, 17:44	#301
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,812 Thanked: 4,676 Times View My Garage	deepclutch, I always fill diesel for 500/1k rs. I use 1 or 2 capfuls correspondingly. A view that has been bought up recently is that once you start giving your car system D, it sort of becomes addicted, and becomes notably worse if you stop using it. is this true? I've noticed this, but i thought the engine was really that rough otherwise
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7th January 2010, 17:50	#302
Mr_Bean BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 894 Thanked: 241 Times View My Garage	System-G for petrol is 300/- & for diesel is 250/-.. Don't know why such a price difference. There is a lot more effect (smoothness, pickup) in adding premium petrol than system-G with normal petrol..
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7th January 2010, 18:10	#303
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,979 Thanked: 16,251 Times View My Garage	Guys, reg the choice of premium & normal petrol to go with your System-G : Pls try out what works for you, for your car.
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9th January 2010, 18:26	#305
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 131 Times View My Garage	Is it so that different fiesta react differently on choosing the right U/L, and i always thought that they are mere machines.
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9th January 2010, 18:56	#306
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,979 Thanked: 16,251 Times View My Garage	@Ruchir, no two machines will remain same once they are used. The handling is different, and fuel quality can change.
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9th January 2010, 19:33	#307
flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 644 Thanked: 84 Times	Just completed one bottle of System G on the Corolla. After one tank of fuel + System G (50 Liters + 50 ml) I have noticed the idle RPM has dropped to 600-750 RPM from the earlier 1000. Also felt the throttle response improved and so did the mileage. The car has done about 77k kms and I guess the System G managed to unclog the injectors. I would recommend System G with normal unleaded fuel. Never tried any other combination though. I mostly fill from BP.
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9th January 2010, 19:55	#308
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	System G works great with normal fuel also Shell Premium Petrol. Both gave me similar results on Alto and Safari or any vehicle I tried till date. I recommand System G either regular basis or once in a while. Regards, Ravi.
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9th January 2010, 22:41	#311
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,979 Thanked: 16,251 Times View My Garage	@Bullboy, I am using System-D in the Ikon TDCi. FE is definitely better with System-D than without it. Usually pick it up from the Ford dealer, and works for both - the Ikon & the Sumo. @Vigsom, check it out how it works for your car. If FE is better with System-G & unlead, - and more than what you get with plain unleaded premium, then you will know for your car. Last edited by condor : 9th January 2010 at 22:42.
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11th January 2010, 02:18	#313
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Cost of using System G is about 1.5 per litre. That makes it lower than premium petrol. However, in practice, I think I end up using somewhat more (so actual cost comes out higher), as I have to estimate the quantity required, as it has to be dunked in before you start filling gas.
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11th January 2010, 07:30	#314
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,979 Thanked: 16,251 Times View My Garage	@Racoon, I add System-D after I fill. But my filling is always a top-up, till the neck of the tank. This way even when I add after filling, all the additive goes into the fuel. Also, my FE is very consistent, so the error is not much in my case.
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