How many KMs before clutch overhaul

suman · 29th September 2006, 09:26

I changed mine at 100k on the Ikon - not that it had packed up but it had weakened a bit and I had some cash available so......

man_1 · 26th July 2007, 00:25

well friends i have a scorpio 2006 model and the the entire clutch assembly was replaced under warranty, kms 5500. then again clutch became very hard due to clutch cylinder piston jammed , also replaced under warranty. but again the clutch has become hard. don't know what to do. please give your suggestions. thanx.

dadu · 26th July 2007, 10:00

If the warranty is still valid invoke it and ask the service supervisor why its happenning again.

nitrous · 28th July 2007, 22:10

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Originally Posted by man1

but again the clutch has become hard. don't know what to do. please give your suggestions. thanx.

Check master and slave cylinder .
If needed bleed the system and fill fresh clutch fluid.

Vid6639 · 28th July 2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Check master and slave cylinder .
If needed bleed the system and fill fresh clutch fluid.

What are the exact functions of the master and slave cylinder and how does one know if it has failed?

I got my clutch replaced and few days later it came to being hard. The whole assembly was changed but no improvements. Am now suspecting the slave or master cylinder.

theMAG · 28th July 2007, 22:31

vid,

This should help demystify your confusion abt masters, slaves and cylinders:

Master cylinder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Another one:

Hydraulics to the Flywheel: Clutch Operation Explained - Automotive Articles .com Magazine

satish_appasani · 28th July 2007, 23:28

What are the signs of clutch wear? My palio D has 36000K on the odo. I have to press the clutch more than i did earlier before shifting the gear. Even then the gear shift is not smooth. Earlier the gearshift was very slick. Also there is a jerk in the power when the clutch pedal is released only half way. What would be the price of clutch replacement for Palio?

nitrous · 1st August 2007, 15:56

Satish, check clutch fluid level.
If required, replace it after checking the condition of master & slave cylinder by a good mech.
I dont think u need to replace the clutch.

wanderernomad · 3rd August 2007, 12:20

My Zen 2000 carb has done about 90K and still on original clutch.
@ satish : your clutch seems to be ok check the cylinder and the fluid.

man_1 · 3rd August 2007, 23:27

i got the entire clutch assembly replaced under warranty yesterday. the service advisor told me that this a new clutch will be available on the new 2.2 eagle scorpio. but i am getting some juddering in 1st gear when i release the clutch. i have been told that this is normal thing. any comments.

jack33 · 1st June 2009, 23:28

Finally changed my Octavia TDi's clutch at 130000 kms. My lancer had crossed 1 lac kms and i think it can easily do another 30-40k.

SS-Traveller · 20th September 2009, 17:55

Reviving a buried thread: Never changed clutch components in the last 10 years.

Maruti 800 DX (1999 - 2001): 68,000 km. Sold with original clutch.
Indica V2 DLS (2001 - 2004): 96,000 km. Sold with OE clutch.
Maruti SS80 (2002 - 2005): 146,000 km on odo, driven about 28k km, not needed clutch work while I had it.
Maruti Zen (2005 - 2007): 122,000 km on odo, driven by me about 19k km, no clutch issues while with me.
Accent Viva CRDi (2004 - till date): 105,000 km. Original clutch.
Maruti Swift ZXi (2006 - till date): 38,000 km. Original clutch.

gpa · 20th September 2009, 20:26

The life of the clutch is also dependent on the initial manufacturing process.

A few batches of the Alto came with defective clutches that failed fairly early. Mine was one of these, it failed at 14,000 kms and replaced free under warranty. Another Bhp-ian (akroy) also had the same problem with his Alto with the clutch failing at around 30,000 kms.

ampere · 21st September 2009, 23:15

Can some one point to a thread/link on how to detect when the clutch is getting weak or its time to replace?

Manuuj · 22nd September 2009, 12:51

I just had my clutch system overhauled at 1.54 Lac kms. in my 2003 model Qualis.

The total bill was under 8000/- including the servicing cost.

Of late it was only doing about 400-420 kms on a full tank of fuel. Though a full tank has 50 liters every tank up was between 42 to 45 liters.

The car felt sluggish and noisy..somehow the engine always felt a bit out of breath and strained in the past few months.

It is now faster and quieter not to mention a marked improvement in fuel economy figures..

After the clutch overhaul the car did 482 kms and 42.8 liters of fuel was put in. This came to an average of 11.3 kms per liter in all city driving with air conditioning on at all times!

It literally feels like its a brand new car again!..

29th September 2006, 09:26	#61
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,586 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	I changed mine at 100k on the Ikon - not that it had packed up but it had weakened a bit and I had some cash available so......
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26th July 2007, 00:25	#62
man_1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 44 Thanked: 0 Times	well friends i have a scorpio 2006 model and the the entire clutch assembly was replaced under warranty, kms 5500. then again clutch became very hard due to clutch cylinder piston jammed , also replaced under warranty. but again the clutch has become hard. don't know what to do. please give your suggestions. thanx.
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26th July 2007, 10:00	#63
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	If the warranty is still valid invoke it and ask the service supervisor why its happenning again.
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28th July 2007, 22:31	#66
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,196 Thanked: 1,821 Times View My Garage	vid, This should help demystify your confusion abt masters, slaves and cylinders: Master cylinder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Another one: Hydraulics to the Flywheel: Clutch Operation Explained - Automotive Articles .com Magazine Last edited by theMAG : 28th July 2007 at 22:46.
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28th July 2007, 23:28	#67
satish_appasani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,114 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	What are the signs of clutch wear? My palio D has 36000K on the odo. I have to press the clutch more than i did earlier before shifting the gear. Even then the gear shift is not smooth. Earlier the gearshift was very slick. Also there is a jerk in the power when the clutch pedal is released only half way. What would be the price of clutch replacement for Palio?
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1st August 2007, 15:56	#68
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Satish, check clutch fluid level. If required, replace it after checking the condition of master & slave cylinder by a good mech. I dont think u need to replace the clutch.
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3rd August 2007, 12:20	#69
wanderernomad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,552 Thanked: 1,296 Times View My Garage	My Zen 2000 carb has done about 90K and still on original clutch. @ satish : your clutch seems to be ok check the cylinder and the fluid.
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3rd August 2007, 23:27	#70
man_1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 44 Thanked: 0 Times	i got the entire clutch assembly replaced under warranty yesterday. the service advisor told me that this a new clutch will be available on the new 2.2 eagle scorpio. but i am getting some juddering in 1st gear when i release the clutch. i have been told that this is normal thing. any comments.
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1st June 2009, 23:28	#71
jack33 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: kochi Posts: 127 Thanked: 9 Times	Finally changed my Octavia TDi's clutch at 130000 kms. My lancer had crossed 1 lac kms and i think it can easily do another 30-40k.
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20th September 2009, 17:55	#72
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,276 Thanked: 28,714 Times View My Garage	Reviving a buried thread: Never changed clutch components in the last 10 years. Maruti 800 DX (1999 - 2001): 68,000 km. Sold with original clutch. Indica V2 DLS (2001 - 2004): 96,000 km. Sold with OE clutch. Maruti SS80 (2002 - 2005): 146,000 km on odo, driven about 28k km, not needed clutch work while I had it. Maruti Zen (2005 - 2007): 122,000 km on odo, driven by me about 19k km, no clutch issues while with me. Accent Viva CRDi (2004 - till date): 105,000 km. Original clutch. Maruti Swift ZXi (2006 - till date): 38,000 km. Original clutch.
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20th September 2009, 20:26	#73
gpa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,790 Thanked: 345 Times	The life of the clutch is also dependent on the initial manufacturing process. A few batches of the Alto came with defective clutches that failed fairly early. Mine was one of these, it failed at 14,000 kms and replaced free under warranty. Another Bhp-ian (akroy) also had the same problem with his Alto with the clutch failing at around 30,000 kms.
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21st September 2009, 23:15	#74
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 18,324 Thanked: 13,602 Times View My Garage	Can some one point to a thread/link on how to detect when the clutch is getting weak or its time to replace?
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22nd September 2009, 12:51	#75
Manuuj BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Delhi. Posts: 895 Thanked: 6,473 Times	I just had my clutch system overhauled at 1.54 Lac kms. in my 2003 model Qualis. The total bill was under 8000/- including the servicing cost. Of late it was only doing about 400-420 kms on a full tank of fuel. Though a full tank has 50 liters every tank up was between 42 to 45 liters. The car felt sluggish and noisy..somehow the engine always felt a bit out of breath and strained in the past few months. It is now faster and quieter not to mention a marked improvement in fuel economy figures.. After the clutch overhaul the car did 482 kms and 42.8 liters of fuel was put in. This came to an average of 11.3 kms per liter in all city driving with air conditioning on at all times! It literally feels like its a brand new car again!..
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