Leak in the Spare Wheel Well

RallyMaster · 16th July 2012, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Does this happen when you wade through a water pool or after a car wash?

Only the spare wheel well is getting the water or the whole boot?

The water may be entering through the boot rubber gasket and may not be channeling the water outside.

Earlier never noticed this issue, considering the car has done 2 servicing and it gets washed almost daily by cleaner. For some reason never accessed the spare wheel area for long time now. The boot carpet board above the spare wheel was not wet. Infact there was no indication of leakage in the boot until I opened the board to access the spare wheel.

a4anurag · 16th July 2012, 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by RallyMaster

Earlier never noticed this issue, considering the car has done 2 servicing and it gets washed almost daily by cleaner. For some reason never accessed the spare wheel area for long time now. The boot carpet board above the spare wheel was not wet. Infact there was no indication of leakage in the boot until I opened the board to access the spare wheel.

Oh!

Can you just check underneath if there are some kind of openings or cracks by the side of the wheel well which could be sending the water into the spare wheel area.

And FYI don't get the car washed daily buddy. Not good for the car and its body. Wiping with a damp cloth would be ideal. May be weekly wash would be best. I know we like to keep our cars spic and span but not at the cost of Rust!

ragzv · 16th July 2012, 17:34

Check rubber gaskets behind the tail lamps - through which the wires pass. The lamps are generally held by big four head screws (which can be opened by a coin) or by plastic clamp-type clips

highwaypatrol · 13th August 2012, 22:34

After reading this thred, just out of my curiousity, i thought of checking my boot space of my Figo, and ohh my god, cant believe my eyes. The carpet just above my spare wheel was wet and the floor carprt on the back seater was also wet. I dont even have a clue on how the water has come inside. My car has done 30,000 kms so fater ans is almost 2.5 yrs old. I went to a local well equiped repairing centre and even they dont have any clue on hoe the water has come inside the wheel well. After a long brainwashing among the mechanics, the senior guy told me that it is beacuse of the gasket on both the side doors in back and boot liner rubber gasket in the wheel well. Iam quite confused on what shud i do next co iam sure if i fo to ford guys they try and squeeze a min of 2500 bucks citing x y z reasons..

Guys i need ur help on this...

Ayson · 17th August 2012, 10:35

I have an Ikon, and i too have the same problem. Boot is wet in the rains. The left boot wall, above the shock strut has a faint spray of mud on it. I took it to Ford and they have applied "M-Seal (black)" quite liberally all over the boot, including to stick the carpet to the walls!!!! But im not sure my problem is solved yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NikhilReddy

I had a similar problem with my Ford IKON Car after 5 years of running....
....He immediately pointed out that some of the Ford cars have this issue and pointed to a small joint near the foot [external] to the front door. This is the place where there is a joint so that the front door can open [right at the bottom nearly 2 inches from the joint]. I suggest check around this place on both the sides [Left & Right] and my guess is you should find something here.

Is there any way you can elaborate on your desctiption of this point. It would be very helpful if i could find it.

[quote=RM2488;2840964]...But I'm not sure whether rubber seals and gaskets are covered...QUOTE]

The drain point seal(s) will be covered with a small patch of painted foam type material. This patch is stuck (with glue that comes off in water) over the seal. But its better not to touch the drain seal unless you have fresh spares, especially if the car is over 2-2.5 years old. The pastic could have degraded and will get damaged when you try to open it.

BTW rust doesn't need a lot of time to form. (I've seen rust forming in a matter of minutes on certain parts. Eg: 1) Your brake disks, minutes after washing. 2)centrifugal oil filter on a Pulsar. It was removed, cleaned of oil, cleaned again, was shiny and set aside. In about 50-120 minutes, when it was time to install, it had rust stains on it. Yes, these are not painted parts.)

And these quick formed rust goes away just as easily with a damp wipe.

ravishankar999 · 4th July 2016, 18:55

Hi Guys,

I am in deep distress as my 2 year old (26k kms) ecosport tdci titanium (o) is showing water leakage into the passenger floor from under the glove box the second consecutive year

All this started during the Mumbai monsoons last year. I was regularly getting my car serviced at one of the authorized service centers in the suburbs.Accident free & Modification free. I was driving as usual as the monsoons started in 2015 doing very light water wading on Mumbai roads and through the occasional normal but constant rains. Then one day as I was driving back from work, it was one of those days when Mumbai saw a downpour on a slightly heavy mode. Heavy rain was banging down on the windshield while I was on the sealink towards Bandra and the wipers on full mode was also of not any help for a few minutes. Once the rain settled down, to my shock I found water leaking into the passenger floor from under the glove box. I was so depressed seeing this. First thing that came to my mind was maybe it should be something related to condensed water from something related to maybe the AC or heater coil getting heated under the glove box. But as I lifted the floor mat, the amount of water that had seeped in was too much to relate to any condensation water issue. It was just rain water. As much as you could cover your feet if you were to place them on the floor. Next morning took it to my office, took the help of my office boy , got a powerful vaccum cleaner that could suck in water and got them 90% dried. Took it to my usual service centre, The SA as smart as he wants to act, started blabbering on "sir, ac ka issue hai, coil kharab hua hai, aapke windshield ke saamne bohut kachra hai". I said whatever but dint buy into his "AC theory" and he promised to deliver the car the next day after thorough cleaning and drying.
Next day being a Sunday, my SA is on leave. I am handed over the car by another SA with a bill of around 4k. I check the items on it and am shocked to see - AC gas refilling charges or something of around 3k. I check with the new SA and he tries to call my SA on his mobile. My SA would have been sleeping on his off day that he dint pick up his phone. The new SA asks me "sir problem kya tha?" I said water leakage issue and there was nothing wrong with the AC. He says" Acha theek hai" and without even blinking he goes to his computer, prepares an new bill with just 300rs on it for cleaning charges and tears of the old bill. I am out with the gate pass. Now there is this regular mechanic boy who is standing there to hand over my car. I had interacted with him multiple times earlier while I had been to the service centre. I asked him what was exactly done. He said" Sir kuch nehi, poora clean kar diya aur ye do rubber bush kaat diya" So as per him the solution from ford to stop blockage of flow of water was to cut these to rubber bush located on extreme inner corners under the hood. (Pic attached). Decided will never go back to this service center again for all the talks the SA had given me the previous day. Was fed up of his hardselling since the previous interactions.

A year goes on.. 2016.. One Service at the next Service center in the suburbs and I am pretty much ok with the new SA and the work done. He said, "Sir the rear break LED lamps are not working. We could change it under warranty but we don't have it in stock now, will do it if you can get the car in next week." I said thanks and left.

Mumbai monsoons are back. No issues during the initial days. Normal regular rain taken well. Now 3 days back there was this heavy downpour once gain while I was on my way to office in the morning. And there again , I see the passenger floor filled with water.I keep my hand under the glove box and its all wet again. I was now parking the car in my office and i noticed now the reverse sensors are not working. As i engage the reverse gear, theres an image with the car and 2 exclamation marks on the front and the back indicating that the sensors are not working. My heart sank.Dont know whether its anything to do with under the glovebox getting wet as the fuse box and other electricals run through that area. I switch off and gets back to office. i Called my new SA and there he goes "Sir we have stopped our association with Ford."

(the reverse sensor starts working once again on its own in the evening when went to pick my car back for the drive home.!!)

Now my hunt for the next Service center. I call up the next dealership and they are not taking any appointments for water leakage issues for one week as they have a huge backlog of cars already in with water leakage issues.

Nevertheless was very nice of the guy whom I spoke to on the phone to suggest a very new dealership opened up in the suburbs again.
Took my car over there and explained the whole story to my latest SA.
In the mean time while I was waiting for the SA to turn up I happened to notice another Silver ecosport with the same water logging on the front passenger floor parked there.

My latest SA has a good look around, opens the bonnet and checks the foam padding under the hood just under the wipers and theres water running through it. The whole foam padding had sunk down due the weight of the water. My SA tried pulling it down and the pad tore as it was already wet.
Now he nods his head as if he has got the problem and says " sir sab kuch nikalna padega dry karke wapas lagana padega. 15k approximately hoga.(including all 3 wiper blades I had asked him to change)" I tell him that the car is under warranty and its accident/modification free and this has to be sorted out under warranty. My SA says he will raise the issue with Ford and check if it can be claimed under warranty. He also asks me to do the same from my side to get in touch with ford. In the mean time he would anyways start the work of drying up the carpet, and the pending recall service that I had to get done.
I get back home, gets in touch with Ford over the toll free number and explained the issue. They said they will look into the matter and get back to me in 24hrs. So today I check with my SA and he says that Ford has approved to sort out the issue under warranty. But my car will take another 3 days as they have to remove the carpet for drying and also open the dash which involves wiring. (I am not liking this, never like tinkering with anything on my car unnecessarily. I like it keeping as stock as possible) I hope I will not face any other issues or rattles now that all these wirings are involved all to sort out water leakage !! keeping my fingers crossed !! Attaching a few images.. Will keep this updated as soon as I get my car back. Hope no one else goes through this on their car !! Any insights into similar issue will be of great help !!

Thanks !!

16th July 2012, 17:34	#18
ragzv BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 107 Thanked: 8 Times	Re: Leak in the Spare Wheel Well Check rubber gaskets behind the tail lamps - through which the wires pass. The lamps are generally held by big four head screws (which can be opened by a coin) or by plastic clamp-type clips
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13th August 2012, 22:34	#19
highwaypatrol BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: BLR / BOM Posts: 257 Thanked: 826 Times	Re: Leak in the Spare Wheel Well After reading this thred, just out of my curiousity, i thought of checking my boot space of my Figo, and ohh my god, cant believe my eyes. The carpet just above my spare wheel was wet and the floor carprt on the back seater was also wet. I dont even have a clue on how the water has come inside. My car has done 30,000 kms so fater ans is almost 2.5 yrs old. I went to a local well equiped repairing centre and even they dont have any clue on hoe the water has come inside the wheel well. After a long brainwashing among the mechanics, the senior guy told me that it is beacuse of the gasket on both the side doors in back and boot liner rubber gasket in the wheel well. Iam quite confused on what shud i do next co iam sure if i fo to ford guys they try and squeeze a min of 2500 bucks citing x y z reasons.. Guys i need ur help on this...
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4th July 2016, 18:55	#21
ravishankar999 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mumbai Posts: 9 Thanked: 10 Times	Re: Leak in the Spare Wheel Well Hi Guys, I am in deep distress as my 2 year old (26k kms) ecosport tdci titanium (o) is showing water leakage into the passenger floor from under the glove box the second consecutive year All this started during the Mumbai monsoons last year. I was regularly getting my car serviced at one of the authorized service centers in the suburbs.Accident free & Modification free. I was driving as usual as the monsoons started in 2015 doing very light water wading on Mumbai roads and through the occasional normal but constant rains. Then one day as I was driving back from work, it was one of those days when Mumbai saw a downpour on a slightly heavy mode. Heavy rain was banging down on the windshield while I was on the sealink towards Bandra and the wipers on full mode was also of not any help for a few minutes. Once the rain settled down, to my shock I found water leaking into the passenger floor from under the glove box. I was so depressed seeing this. First thing that came to my mind was maybe it should be something related to condensed water from something related to maybe the AC or heater coil getting heated under the glove box. But as I lifted the floor mat, the amount of water that had seeped in was too much to relate to any condensation water issue. It was just rain water. As much as you could cover your feet if you were to place them on the floor. Next morning took it to my office, took the help of my office boy , got a powerful vaccum cleaner that could suck in water and got them 90% dried. Took it to my usual service centre, The SA as smart as he wants to act, started blabbering on "sir, ac ka issue hai, coil kharab hua hai, aapke windshield ke saamne bohut kachra hai". I said whatever but dint buy into his "AC theory" and he promised to deliver the car the next day after thorough cleaning and drying. Next day being a Sunday, my SA is on leave. I am handed over the car by another SA with a bill of around 4k. I check the items on it and am shocked to see - AC gas refilling charges or something of around 3k. I check with the new SA and he tries to call my SA on his mobile. My SA would have been sleeping on his off day that he dint pick up his phone. The new SA asks me "sir problem kya tha?" I said water leakage issue and there was nothing wrong with the AC. He says" Acha theek hai" and without even blinking he goes to his computer, prepares an new bill with just 300rs on it for cleaning charges and tears of the old bill. I am out with the gate pass. Now there is this regular mechanic boy who is standing there to hand over my car. I had interacted with him multiple times earlier while I had been to the service centre. I asked him what was exactly done. He said" Sir kuch nehi, poora clean kar diya aur ye do rubber bush kaat diya" So as per him the solution from ford to stop blockage of flow of water was to cut these to rubber bush located on extreme inner corners under the hood. (Pic attached). Decided will never go back to this service center again for all the talks the SA had given me the previous day. Was fed up of his hardselling since the previous interactions. A year goes on.. 2016.. One Service at the next Service center in the suburbs and I am pretty much ok with the new SA and the work done. He said, "Sir the rear break LED lamps are not working. We could change it under warranty but we don't have it in stock now, will do it if you can get the car in next week." I said thanks and left. Mumbai monsoons are back. No issues during the initial days. Normal regular rain taken well. Now 3 days back there was this heavy downpour once gain while I was on my way to office in the morning. And there again , I see the passenger floor filled with water.I keep my hand under the glove box and its all wet again. I was now parking the car in my office and i noticed now the reverse sensors are not working. As i engage the reverse gear, theres an image with the car and 2 exclamation marks on the front and the back indicating that the sensors are not working. My heart sank.Dont know whether its anything to do with under the glovebox getting wet as the fuse box and other electricals run through that area. I switch off and gets back to office. i Called my new SA and there he goes "Sir we have stopped our association with Ford." (the reverse sensor starts working once again on its own in the evening when went to pick my car back for the drive home.!!) Now my hunt for the next Service center. I call up the next dealership and they are not taking any appointments for water leakage issues for one week as they have a huge backlog of cars already in with water leakage issues. Nevertheless was very nice of the guy whom I spoke to on the phone to suggest a very new dealership opened up in the suburbs again. Took my car over there and explained the whole story to my latest SA. In the mean time while I was waiting for the SA to turn up I happened to notice another Silver ecosport with the same water logging on the front passenger floor parked there. My latest SA has a good look around, opens the bonnet and checks the foam padding under the hood just under the wipers and theres water running through it. The whole foam padding had sunk down due the weight of the water. My SA tried pulling it down and the pad tore as it was already wet. Now he nods his head as if he has got the problem and says " sir sab kuch nikalna padega dry karke wapas lagana padega. 15k approximately hoga.(including all 3 wiper blades I had asked him to change)" I tell him that the car is under warranty and its accident/modification free and this has to be sorted out under warranty. My SA says he will raise the issue with Ford and check if it can be claimed under warranty. He also asks me to do the same from my side to get in touch with ford. In the mean time he would anyways start the work of drying up the carpet, and the pending recall service that I had to get done. I get back home, gets in touch with Ford over the toll free number and explained the issue. They said they will look into the matter and get back to me in 24hrs. So today I check with my SA and he says that Ford has approved to sort out the issue under warranty. But my car will take another 3 days as they have to remove the carpet for drying and also open the dash which involves wiring. (I am not liking this, never like tinkering with anything on my car unnecessarily. I like it keeping as stock as possible) I hope I will not face any other issues or rattles now that all these wirings are involved all to sort out water leakage !! keeping my fingers crossed !! Attaching a few images.. Will keep this updated as soon as I get my car back. Hope no one else goes through this on their car !! Any insights into similar issue will be of great help !! Thanks !! Attached Thumbnails
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