Re: Skoda / VW Group Engine Oils Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadrant55
Succinct version - Mannol claimed their 5W30 oil was compatible with multiple VW standards - VW 504 00/507 00 as well as VW 505 01 ....
....When asked to provide documentation to back it claims, Mannol was only able to produce certifications/approvals for the VW 504 00/507 00 standard. So in the end they had to re-label the product accordingly and VLS resolved the complaint. |
That makes sense. I read that the additive packages to conform with these various standards were mutually exclusive. I thought they figured it out how to put it all together, and VLS tested it and retracted the complaint. Looks like they just removed one label to become compliant. Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadrant55 True, the recommended oil is most likely VW 507 00. But in India most ASCs hardly stock this grade. They use and recommend VW 505 00 grade claiming 'hotter local conditions'. There has been lot of discussion regarding the correct grade for VAG cars in India in this very same thread.
Nowadays there are few other brands which are available in the market - Liqui Moly 4200, Meguin, Rowe and even Mannol. Some of these might not be fully synthetic.
If anyone is keen on VAG branded oil its available at Motorparts Junction in 0W30 spec. |
EDIT: I looked at the thread, and it seems this is much more murkier than i imagined. I don't think there is any additional information in my post.
I doubt it's just the viscosity that is different. Probably there are other properties that matter. And if it was suitable to use a different viscosity in hotter climates, VAG/ Audi/ Porsche would have issued the information to service centres. (EDIT: Upon re-reading: Are you saying that Authorised service centres don't stock it??? The Audi i go to has always used Castrol edge professional. I mistakenly read that local workshops don't stock it.)
Either way, i wouldn't be making layman decisions on oil viscosity (or standards), because if there are other hydraulics dependant components in the engine, thing may not stay within layman calculations. (and the chemistry in modern oils are pretty complex. Simply looking at ACEA or API standards in a gist can show the insane properties of these oils) Of course one may not experience catastrophic failure in the short run, but if they plan to keep these diesels in the long run, they tend to be pretty bullet proof, if maintained correctly. Just following the manufacturer recommendations might be the easiest way to ensure this.
On a slightly related note, i had a starter burn out on my 2.0 TDI after i mixed a litre of 5W 40 along with the correct 507 5W 30, using warm weather reasoning ![Big Grin](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.png) . I won't attribute it completely to the oil, but thicker oil may further have strained a starter that already draws high current to cold start a diesel compression engine.
I never knew VAG had their own oil! The VW service centers i've been to have used Castrol Magnatec Professional, and Audi Castrol edge professional.
Last edited by Ayson : 16th September 2023 at 18:40.
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