Mahindra Scorpio : Issues & Solutions

raj_5004 · 26th July 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

These changes were not prompted by users in Mumbai!
Have you ever seen 47° ambients?
Then think traffic jams and crawling traffic.
Or, the rigours of driving in those conditions with 4WD Low!!

yes, thats true anupji. btw, my non-CRDe is now remains in kerela & not mumbai!

well, delhi cannot compete with mumbai where traffic jams are concerned! my daily drive with my non-CRDe (as well as mHawk) included covering a 3 kms incline which took 30-45 mins!!! enough heating up & clutch burning too!

yes, no 4WD though!

shekharlele · 26th July 2009, 18:42

Hi folks..

Met some of you on Yahoo groups. Great to see you there! I have a small question about changing my tyres...the current setup is JK Elanzo. Which tyres should I look at? Should I change to JK elanzo's itself or some other tyre like the Yokohama Geolander.

How much would the tyre cost? My budget is about 4.5 K per tyre. Would also like to know how much buy back value I would get (I know depends on condition, but as a ballpark?)

Since I am on a rather tight budget, I was wondering if I could change the front tyres to the JKs and use two of my better tyres for the rear.

What would be the disadvantages of doing this? Also, can I change just the front 2 to a better tyre such as Yokohama (maybe higher price for a better ride quality. I will be using the stock size and not doing any size upgrade.

anupmathur · 26th July 2009, 20:19

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Originally Posted by shekharlele

... I was wondering if I could change the front tyres to the JKs and use two of my better tyres for the rear.

Ah, and thereby re-kindle the old debate about whether the better tyres should be on the front or the rear wheels!

hvkumar · 26th July 2009, 20:55

Quote:

I have a small question about changing my tyres...the current setup is JK Elanzo. Which tyres should I look at? Should I change to JK elanzo's itself or some other tyre like the Yokohama Geolander.

How much would the tyre cost? My budget is about 4.5 K per tyre. Would also like to know how much buy back value I would get (I know depends on condition, but as a ballpark?)

Since I am on a rather tight budget, I was wondering if I could change the front tyres to the JKs and use two of my better tyres for the rear.

What would be the disadvantages of doing this? Also, can I change just the front 2 to a better tyre such as Yokohama (maybe higher price for a better ride quality. I will be using the stock size and not doing any size upgrade.

Check out the following thread, which has a discussion on tyres for the Scorpio:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...scorpio-4.html
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1343476-post33.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ated-tyre.html
And this will give you an idea about JK tyres for the Scorpio

I have used Bridgestone Tubed HTs - horrible
Bridgestone Tubeless ATs - fantastic for high-speed driving
Yokos Tubeless ATs - fantastic on wet roads

anupmathur · 26th July 2009, 22:04

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Originally Posted by hvkumar

Yokos Tubeless ATs - fantastic on wet roads

Aren't these out of his budget?
Why not go with the Bridgestone tubeless option?
In fact I don't know what these cost.

I, personally, am quite happy with my Pirelli STRs. Very low noise on highways, good enough on slush and snow. All-rounders. But they are visually very disappointing!

hvkumar · 26th July 2009, 22:07

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

Aren't these out of his budget?
Why not go with the Bridgestone tubeless option?
In fact I don't know what these cost.

I, personally, am quite happy with my Pirelli STRs. Very low noise on highways, good enough on slush and snow. All-rounders. But they are visually very disappointing!

Yokos are around 6100 MRP in Bombay, and Bridgestone AT 5500 MRP. But all rates are negotiable.

shekharlele · 27th July 2009, 11:50

Dear Sirs,

What is the kind consensus of the group? 2 JK Elanzo's for the front, then?

AND one more thing happened this morning. The ac blower now only works on 4 setting (knew this would happen) and on speaking with the Mahindra service centre, they suggested I could get minor things done outside and it won't affect the warranty (engine, gearbox and differential).

My question now is, should I change the resistor (as the Mahindra guy suggested) and see, or should I get the blower serviced, cause that's the bit I suspect. The blower replacement cost outside is 3,500 and in the ASC is 4,500.

Will blower servicing help? Also, the noise was coming from the front passenger side blower only. Does the scorpio have multiple blowers? Plese help...

hvkumar · 27th July 2009, 11:57

My AC blower also makes higher noise than normal and ASC suggested I change the blower. I promptly ignored the suggestion, but for the slightly extra noise, blower works fine.

Don't have different brand/type tyres for different tyres.

shekharlele · 27th July 2009, 12:06

Kumarji,

You mean extra blower noise is fine. So I will just change the resistor and wait till the blower fails. I just wanted to know if servicing the blower would be a low cost middle of the way solution?

You must mean I should not have different brands for different axles. So, then I will just buy the JK Elanzo for the front and transfer my 'good' elanzo's to the rear.

Saves me some dough...

hvkumar · 27th July 2009, 12:49

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Originally Posted by shekharlele

Kumarji,

You mean extra blower noise is fine. So I will just change the resistor and wait till the blower fails. I just wanted to know if servicing the blower would be a low cost middle of the way solution?

They told me they can do nothing about it - servicing won't solve the noise problem. So, I bear the noise - which is a low hum, not irritating.

anupmathur · 27th July 2009, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by hvkumar

They told me they can do nothing about it - servicing won't solve the noise problem.

They've plumbed to such depths!?
Shameless!

If it is a low hum, it could be physical obstruction to free movement of the rotor (choked with dust/leaves) or the mounting rubbers/PVC bushes.
Can't say for sure as I've never seen the assembly.
Is the speed normal?

hvkumar · 27th July 2009, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by anupmathur

They've plumbed to such depths!?
Shameless!

If it is a low hum, it could be physical obstruction to free movement of the rotor (choked with dust/leaves) or the mounting rubbers/PVC bushes.
Can't say for sure as I've never seen the assembly.
Is the speed normal?

No, speed is quite normal and despite cleaning the AC system once every 8-12 months, the noise does not go away, so it is not a problem with dirt or dust.

Not surprising about Mahindra ASCs - when I had an engine oil leak, they said I must change the engine gaskets, I finally traced it to loose allens!

anupmathur · 27th July 2009, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by hvkumar

.... and despite cleaning the AC system once every 8-12 months, the noise does not go away,

Once again:

Have you been getting this cleaning done every 8 to 12 months?!
Why?
As a preventive maintenance measure?
Did this noise start before or after such a cleaning?

shekharlele · 27th July 2009, 13:24

Hi folks,

I will be changing the resistor today at my local mech. Also need a bolt for the sump guard. Let's hope the old bolt has just fallen off and is not rusted inside....otherwise it'll be a bigger job!

anupmathur · 27th July 2009, 13:29

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Originally Posted by shekharlele

Let's hope the old bolt has just fallen off and is not rusted inside....otherwise it'll be a bigger job!

Almost certainly the old bolt fell off! It doesn't happen that the head falls off leaving the shank inside, except through manual intervention!

Best of luck. It should go smoothly ....

26th July 2009, 18:42	#437
shekharlele BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Times	Hi folks.. Met some of you on Yahoo groups. Great to see you there! I have a small question about changing my tyres...the current setup is JK Elanzo. Which tyres should I look at? Should I change to JK elanzo's itself or some other tyre like the Yokohama Geolander. How much would the tyre cost? My budget is about 4.5 K per tyre. Would also like to know how much buy back value I would get (I know depends on condition, but as a ballpark?) Since I am on a rather tight budget, I was wondering if I could change the front tyres to the JKs and use two of my better tyres for the rear. What would be the disadvantages of doing this? Also, can I change just the front 2 to a better tyre such as Yokohama (maybe higher price for a better ride quality. I will be using the stock size and not doing any size upgrade.
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27th July 2009, 11:50	#442
shekharlele BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Times	Dear Sirs, What is the kind consensus of the group? 2 JK Elanzo's for the front, then? AND one more thing happened this morning. The ac blower now only works on 4 setting (knew this would happen) and on speaking with the Mahindra service centre, they suggested I could get minor things done outside and it won't affect the warranty (engine, gearbox and differential). My question now is, should I change the resistor (as the Mahindra guy suggested) and see, or should I get the blower serviced, cause that's the bit I suspect. The blower replacement cost outside is 3,500 and in the ASC is 4,500. Will blower servicing help? Also, the noise was coming from the front passenger side blower only. Does the scorpio have multiple blowers? Plese help...
	() Thanks

27th July 2009, 11:57	#443
hvkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 7,369 Thanked: 3,463 Times	My AC blower also makes higher noise than normal and ASC suggested I change the blower. I promptly ignored the suggestion, but for the slightly extra noise, blower works fine. Don't have different brand/type tyres for different tyres.
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27th July 2009, 12:06	#444
shekharlele BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Times	Kumarji, You mean extra blower noise is fine. So I will just change the resistor and wait till the blower fails. I just wanted to know if servicing the blower would be a low cost middle of the way solution? You must mean I should not have different brands for different axles. So, then I will just buy the JK Elanzo for the front and transfer my 'good' elanzo's to the rear. Saves me some dough...
	() Thanks

27th July 2009, 13:24	#449
shekharlele BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Times	Hi folks, I will be changing the resistor today at my local mech. Also need a bolt for the sump guard. Let's hope the old bolt has just fallen off and is not rusted inside....otherwise it'll be a bigger job!
	() Thanks