[Dr.Car]

Hi everyone, let me give some background about this post. We bought an Innova Crysta 2.4 Z AT in June, 2022, a few months before the launch of Hycross. Even though, there was news that a new Innova Model was launching, the itch to get a new car got the better of us (Me and my family)

Now, after the launch of Hycross, it's a bittersweet experience. On one hand I'm happy that ours is a better, more rigid and abuse friendly BoF chassis but on the hand the features and the ride quality of the Hycross' Monocoque chassis is making me regret my decision a little.

Even though the Crysta is a comfortable car, but my family often experiences a lot of body roll especially on the winding roads in hills. They actually enjoy being more in our 2016 Honda City which feels more well planted on both expressways and hilly roads.

Our running is quite low and the car has just clocked around 9,000 Km till date. We mostly do long trips only in the Crysta but sometimes drive in the city as well. It is mostly self driven and occasionally by chauffeurs. Due to this, the heft of the steering also makes it a bit difficult one to drive in the city (Even though I enjoy Hydraulic steerings but others in my family are used to Electronic steerings and find it to be a little cumbersome.)

Another thing is that we got the Crysta for about 31L OTR which I think might make the resale of the car a little difficult since people can buy the VX variant of the Hycross around that price as well.

So, my question to all of you guys is that should I go ahead and upgrade to the Hycross or wait for sometime and keep using the trusted Crysta? Thanks

[car_guy1998]

If I were you, I'd not suggest selling even though you get good resale. This is coming from a Hycross Hybrid user, whose car has run close to 46000 Kms in 15 months. Though we are happy with the Hycross, I still wanted the Crysta due to Diesel AT combo and BOF. By the time we had decided to get the car, Toyota had discontinued the Crysta D AT and relaunched it in MT guise, which we weren't keen on as our usage is in city most of the time and moreover, dad didn't like the last row of Crysta when compared to previous gen Innova and our Hycross.

And, you won't get such combo (Diesel AT) anymore at the price point of 30L as Toyota had restricted the AT gearbox to Hycross.

And, moreover, 9000 Kms on the odo, means the car is still in run-in period.

Even we too own a 4th gen City but dad still prefers to drive the Hycross even for short distances these days. Also, my City's steering felt bit hard after driving the Hycross in city traffic, whose steering is feather light.

Since you are planning to trade in your Crysta with Hycross, I'll list the pros and cons of both the cars below.

What you gain in Hycross over Crysta:

- Better 3rd row space, which my dad preferred over Crysta

- Better FE when compared to Crysta Diesel in city (Hycross gives 16-18 Kmpl based on my experience while Crysta gives 10-12 Kmpl if driven in same conditions)

- Smooth and refined petrol hybrid engine mated to e-CVT and that Hybrid system is future proof but bit concerned about its reliability in future

- Steering felt feather light and easy while taking u-turns in city

- Interiors looks better when compared to Crysta IMO

- Better ride quality due to being built on Monocoque chassis

What you gain in Crysta over Hycross:

- BOF chassis, which is very useful for rough terrains

- Still prefer the looks of Crysta though Hycross is no less in terms of looks


But, someday I'd love to own a used Crysta in 2.8 AT guise if I get a well maintained one when I come back to India for good.

[DicKy]

Assuming you have liked the Hycross after TDing it and considering your very low running, better to sell off the Crysta right now and get the Hycross. Though be warned to have a proper TD of the Hycross so that you don't get seller's remorse. You won't be able to buy a brand new car like the Innova Crysta today.

Originally Posted by Dr.Car

Another thing is that we got the Crysta for about 31L OTR which I think might make the resale of the car a little difficult since people can buy the VX variant of the Hycross around that price as well.

Don't fret about that. A Crysta prospective buyer is forced to buy the Hycross if he really wants an automatic transmission. There are plenty of people waiting to lap up a used Crysta automatic, that too with such low running.

Rationally if it is just FOMO and wanting latest, would say keep the Crysta. But here you do find it difficult to drive the car, and with your extremely low running, a BS6 diesel isn't ideal.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by Dr.Car

Another thing is that we got the Crysta for about 31L OTR which I think might make the resale of the car a little difficult since people can buy the VX variant of the Hycross around that price as well.

So, my question to all of you guys is that should I go ahead and upgrade to the Hycross or wait for sometime and keep using the trusted Crysta? Thanks

Hycross is a good improvement over Crysta in almost all aspect, that said its still a 7 seater MPV. While there is good improvement, there is still body roll compared to a Sedan or a nice crossover, you cannot off road or blast through bad section like a tough SUV. Unless you are looking for the incremental upgrade or your car is too old, I would suggest stick to Crysta.

[manofinfinity]

As a Hycross owner who also has driven and used Crysta extensively, I find a major improvement in Hycross in terms of Handling, Ride Quality Fuel efficiency and city drivability, in short, the usability of Hycross is much more compared to Crysta as it is much easier to drive in the city.
Take an extended test drive of Hycross with family and then decide if you are sold on Hycross the Vx variant is the most value for money and has all the features present in Crysta Zx.

[smekad]

I was in the similar predicament couple of months back, I have a Crysta 2.8 ZXAT which runs like a charm after 95K kms. But I found the interior quality of hycross a big big let down. I felt that the premium that Toyota is charging for it is not worth it at all.

Moreover, the hycross test drive car already had rattling in the cabin. Few of my friends who own a hycross also confirmed rattling in a relatively low run car. Overall I feel that the Hycross is not as well put together as older gen Crysta is. The only thing that was going for it was the marginally better ride quality, silent cabin and few more creature comforts.

I finally decided to hang on to my car for lot longer as move to Hycross from ZX AT Crysta did not feel like an upgrade.

-smk

[Dr.Car]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

If I



- Better FE when compared to Crysta Diesel in city (Hycross gives 16-18 Kmpl based on my experience while Crysta gives 10-12 Kmpl if driven in same conditions)

Yes, fuel efficiency is also one of the important factors. But can you confirm if the hybrid variant gives as much better fuel efficiency than the Crysta on the highway? Since the hybrid system won't able to kick in as much as the city rides and thus, the engine will have to do all of the work.

[Sanidhya mukund]

Originally Posted by Dr.Car

Yes, fuel efficiency is also one of the important factors. But can you confirm if the hybrid variant gives as much better fuel efficiency than the Crysta on the highway? Since the hybrid system won't able to kick in as much as the city rides and thus, the engine will have to do all of the work.

The above posts have pretty much covered all the noteworthy points about Crysta Vs Hycross. Even I own a Hycross ZX (o) that I’ve driven for about 9k since I bought it in Feb 2024. Before this, My family had a Crysta 2.4 GX MT 2021 for a considerable period of time.

I can vouch for the fact that the Hycross feels like a significant downgrade in terms of quality and attention to detail when compared to the Crysta. For instance, Crysta ZX has backlit window switches, Hycross doesn’t. The quality of leather and plastics in the Crysta are comparable to the current Fortuner, whereas the Hycross is more comparable to the Grand Vitara/Hyryder. The exterior panels of the Hycross feel much tinnier than those of the Crysta. The rear AC vents are placed in a more suitable manner on the Crysta. In the Hycross, they can give you a headache. The Crysta is far more reassuring to take anywhere. The Hycross, especially the ZX with its 18 inch alloys and monocoque chassis means that it is more Camry/Corolla than Innova. With the Crysta, we used to just bulldoze through bad roads. The solid underpinnings and the solid RWD architecture meant that the car had no problem even when we took it to Nagaland and Arunachal Pradesh, states which had terrible roads.

Body roll is present even on the Hycross. Physics can’t be defeated here, after all, it is also a tall MPV. As far as fuel efficiency is concerned, the Hycross is certainly much better than the Crysta. I would guess the difference is as high as 40 percent. However, if driven enthusiastically on the expressway, the Hycross begins sipping fuel.

The only real advantage the Hycross has over the Crysta is the fact that it is easier to drive due to the lighter steering, is loaded with modern features such as ADAS, panoramic roof, memory seats, 360 camera, ottoman seats and electric tailgate and has some green credentials. Otherwise, the Crysta is equally comfortable, far more sturdy, easier to fix if something breaks and better quality inside-out.

Remember, even Toyota hasn’t been able to ‘replace’ the mighty Crysta with the Hycross.

[manojrajakrishn]

Hycross is a step up from Crysta. I will list down my take on the benefits you would possibly get when you upgrade to Hycross.

• You will get the best resale price for Crysta now. If you intend to sell this in February next year you will definitely get a lakh or more less.
• With Hycross you get a silent engine, the latest hybrid technology, and is here to stay for the next 15 years. Not the case with Crysta, not sure about the future of diesel in the next 5 years.
• Crysta is already outdated when you compare it with Hycross. In 2024 or 2025 as a new buyer ask yourself, if you would buy a Hycross or a crysta you would have your answer.
• The lesser running you mentioned gives a straightaway thumbs up to Hycross, it would have been best to continue with crysta only if your running was higher.

[Doge]

For me the Hycross is a significant downgrade from the Crysta, I had a test drive in a brand new car and couldn't believe how far the mighty have fallen. I don't get the hype or the waiting periods at all, the Hycross feels very cheap inside and out to me, from the extremely orange peel heavy paint to the door pannel which flexed when I rested my leg on it, that car felt like a large entry level maruti rather than what they're charging for it.
I was extremely disappointed as the car drives quite well and is a great family car. I'm glad that a few people also feel the same way.

[Sensible_Speed]

Your low running actually makes perfect sense for a Hycross. The hybrid is fuel efficient and it's a lot more comfortable than the Crysta. BS6 diesels are also notoriously temperamental in the city, with the DPF regen. Toyota diesel owners have been struggling with this, especially the ones that use it in the city. Resale isn't a big problem with the Crysta either and you won't lose much money on it. I'd say, sell the Crysta and get the Hycross.

[newton_meteor]

Our HyCross is 20 months old with 32k kms on the ODO and I will say it with certainty and feedback from others that I’ve got that it betters the Crysta overall.

Noteworthy improvements over Crysta

• More absorbent ride & less side to side movement (monocoque)
• Much nicer interior ambience and comfy ottoman seats (ZX variants)
• Refinement of hybrid powertrain (low NVH adds to highway comfort, Crysta passes on vibrations through foot well and you are always aware about the noisy diesel engine under the hood)
• 30-40% more fuel efficiency
• Feels like a premium Toyota
• Nicely tuned electronic power steering

Noteworthy compromises compared to Crysta

• Effortless surge of the diesel automatic in Crysta is handy during overtakes and engaging to drive (some drivers can find the HyCross’ E-CVT boring and lacking in power although the HyCross has the faster 0-100 timing)
• Ladder frame of Crysta can hammer broken patches that are aplenty in our highways with better resilience
• Long-term maintenance of HyCross (batteries) is an added expense, though fuel savings can compensate
• Crysta has proven its mettle (quality, durability and reliability). HyCross is on its way to

[sam_sant2005]

My 2 cents -

I have owned a 2.8 AT Crysta for 2 years before moving to a Fortuner. I still miss the Crysta, my entire family does! Afterall Crysta is the HIGHWAY car of India and unless you see the Ministers moving to another vehicle (may be Hycross), it will take some time to dethrone Crysta.

If I was an existing Crysta owner
Considering mixed reviews on both vehicles in the posts above, one big consideration is that Used Crysta is still hot cake in the market. A good condition ZX AT Crysta 1-2 yrs is being sold for 27-30 lakhs. WHY SO??? When I have such confusion generally when buying cars, I go with market sentiments and as of today if people are still going behind Crysta paying close to a new Hycross price, I personally feel you should probably rethink about selling your 'gold', which was bought new, low run.

I am in no way against Hycross. Hycross is the future, but then it is more apt for a person who is not owning a relatively new Crysta! The future maintenance of Hycross Hybrid batteries are still not clear and could cost a bomb. And I did not feel any 'upgrade' feel with the interiors of a Hycross.

If I was a new car buyer with low kms monthly usage, I would consider the GX O AT which retails for 26 lakhs onroad Blr. Toyota's recent upgrade on GX O trim makes it a decent bet. Only if I had extreme running, I would choose a Hybrid since for regular users, it cannot break even even after 5 yrs. Money saved on Hybrid running cost could potentially go into battery expenses (debatable, nobody knows).

On a light note - If you decide to sell your Crysta neverthless, I will pick it up

[meisteramg]

I have a Touring Sport 2.8 diesel AT MY2017, done 1,30,000km and runs like a charm. Drove a HyCross and was impressed by its refinement but felt a little underpowered.My run is over highways and city can someone throw a light on HyCross' fuel efficiency on highways under normal driving and not on fuel efficiency run?

[Dr.Car]

Originally Posted by sam_sant2005

On a light note - If you decide to sell your Crysta neverthless, I will pick it up

Sure, I think I've got the perfect prospective buyer already.

Going by valuable opinions given by you and others, it definitely looks like it makes a great sense to keep the Crysta for longer. But, definitely the upgrade option is not bad either. I think we'd have to make up our mind and get another TD of the Hycross to make an informed decision.