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Old 16th December 2023, 14:10   #31
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

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(1) VW Virtus GT 1.5 DSG - Spacious and amazingly fun to drive. Wife just drools over it
(2) Kia Seltos Diesel AT XLine - Comes with all the safety, feature rich, ADAS and almost compliments the Compass for a Like to Like replacement.
(3) XUV700 AX5 Diesel AT - 5 seater although misses out on many features, even basic ones like Auto dimming IRVMs.
(4) A second hand Jeep Compass Diesel S model - Coz I love Jeep

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Based on my experience if drivability and fuel efficiency both are important, you can easily get 18+ FE in a Virtus GT DSG on highways and 22+ on expressways. The 2 cylinder gets activated even at 120, just lovely. City mileage would be 8-10 based on traffic and driving manners. Compass service costs would start to increase and yes it would be more than a VW/Skoda, Jeep service cost almost close to the Big 3 (We got a fog light halogen bulb changed once for our Compass(now sold) for 4200 INR ).

Get a GT in Deep Black or Lava Blue Slavia .

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Old 16th December 2023, 14:54   #32
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

The best thing to do will be to hold onto Compass for a couple of years and then upgrade to a EV. Many new gen EVs are expected by that time. I can bet if you sell the Compass now, you gonna miss it badly and maybe even regret selling it. There are very few cars which can match it’s solid feel. So why not enjoy it for another two years and then buy something like next gen ZS EV or even Ioniq 5.
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Old 16th December 2023, 15:02   #33
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Given the numbers, I am afraid it may not make much sense to sell it. If you were buying a new car, it probably would have made sense NOT to buy a gas guzzler like this. But having bought it already, you will lose a lot in depreciation etc. and you may not see the kind of savings you may be looking for as pointed by many.

It seems like your commute is extremely bad (stop/go) which gives you 4-5 kmpl. But since you get a decent 14kmpl on highway, that rules out issues with engine. So a new car with AT and decently big and even diesel engine will not give you a very high fuel economy. And diesel cars are more expensive to to begin with so some money is lost there. BTW, still check why you get such low mileage, even my Audi 2.0T petrol with 200+ hp gives me around 5.8kmpl in notorious Bangalore traffic.

In nutshell, you will have losses in selling, new diesel will be expensive and fuel economy for 70% of drive will be low and it may make sense to stick to the current one.
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

When you have 50 kms round trip , an effortless drive train is very important as well as it being fuel efficient, the first part helps when you are tired after work and the second part of it, well why waste fuel if it isn't doing anything.

I used to have a 50-70km round trip through CBD traffic everyday, switching from petrol to diesel was not only more fuel efficient but also faster because of the way those engines deliver power at slow city speeds. Nowadays petrol GDi engines have bridged the performance gap with a penalty on fuel, if diesel isn't your choice you should look for a GDi engine equipped vehicle.
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Old 16th December 2023, 15:42   #35
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Have you considered the depreciation aspect? It’ll be a big hit since your car is pretty much new.
Will you be able to live with a virtus? You’re downsizing from the interiors of the Jeep compass afterall!
Why not simply buy an entry level EV that gets the weekday office runs sorted. If charging is an issue you could even consider a CNG car.
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Slightly off-topic suggestions / thoughts that come to my head.

1. Do you need to commute every day to work?
2. Will an alternate commute time apart from the regular peak hours work? You’ll get a better fuel efficiency running during non-peak hours.
3. Have you considered possibility of public transport or Ola/Uber combined with points 1 and 2? I don’t know much about Mumbai, but it seems to be well connected in terms of public transport.

Bottom line, you have a solid car - no matter what people say about depreciation or fuel consumption. IMHO, focus on how you can reduce your fuel consumption, rather than changing the car.
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Old 16th December 2023, 17:32   #37
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

I am personally totally disgusted with the Jeep sales and service, cheats and incompetent service. However as a car i feel the product is at par with brands like BMW and Audi in some aspects. I test drove some premium segment cars and found that the interior quality of Jeep on the same level as BMW. I am not talking about the design but material quality and finish. Also i found the build quality of BMW, Audi, Skoda(kodiac only) on the same level as Jeep, VW tiguan felt cheap and weak in comparison. However I would still suggest changing the car BUT only to upgrade to a premium manufacturer. As others have rightly mentioned the expenses after end of warranty of Jeep is very high.

I own a petrol manual compass, and will sell it sooner than later because of the uncertainty of Jeep surviving in India for long, pathetic service centre, and still have a feeling of being swindled during purchase of the vehicle, as regards to the gross paint issue.

As regards the automatic petrol- I found the car to be extremely lethargic and boring to drive, which is another reason to sell. The petrol manual, although not a super fast car, is still much more responsive than it's automatic counterpart.

But if it's only for fuel efficiency, i wouldn't recommend selling it. I've got as low as 6.8 kmpl in city and as high as 16.6kmpl on highway which is still way better than my previous beloved Ford fiesta 1.6 petrol which gave me maximum 12kmpl on highway.

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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Keeping the environmental aspect aside, if only considering from an economy angle I believe that above a certain price point (cost of new car) the fuel efficiency does not remain that important as it would be for a car at economy price point. Considering a 1000 km monthly run, a shortfall of 3-4 kmpl will only burn an additional 3-4k on your expenses. So, perhaps a 50 k additional burn yearly.
As others have said, taking hit of depreciation itself is not worth this. Just forget the idea, enjoy your car and shell out that additional 5 lacs on petrol bill in 10 years (inflation not considered).
That's nothing for the 30+lac car that you are in love with and is having no other issues otherwise. Things can get much worse in a lateral upgrade.

I am in a similar boat with my Safari XZA+ at 28 lacs. Well, never expected this heavy machine to be frugal - i have even stopped looking at FE and just enjoying the car as long as my runs to fuel pump don't get abnormally frequent. With the diesel motor , my expectation is 7-8 in city and 15 on highways.
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Nowadays petrol GDi engines have bridged the performance gap with a penalty on fuel, if diesel isn't your choice you should look for a GDi engine equipped vehicle.
Did you mean turbo-charged GDi? It's the turbo which provides early and more low-end torque over a Naturally Aspirated engine. GDi, primarily leads to better and efficient fuel burning I think.

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I live in Thane and my daily commute entail covering approximately 40-50 kms for a round trip from home to office and back.
Does this route have very high traffic congestion ?

Reason i am asking this is because if that's the case i dont think any other vehicle except an E.V will help you get down your driving cost.

If an AT petrol is giving 4-5kmpl in similar traffic expect no more than 8-9kmpl from a N.A petrol or a turbo diesel.

Saying this from a personal experience, i have a Petrol Scorpio N and a Ignis (N.A petrol), in peak traffic i get 5-7kmpl in Scorpio whereas Ignis gives 8-10kmpl. On highway the Scorpio will give around 14 whereas on the same stretch Ignis has given me upto 22-24kmpl.

So as i said, if possible look for a E.V Or how open are you for a 2 wheeler ?
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

I'm not sure I follow the OP's line of reasoning.

You spend some Rs 35,00,000+ on a car you chose (I assume) for its manners, and are now cribbing about a differential of Rs 3,500 per month you pay for those same manners?

Penny wise, pounds foolish is what comes to mind.

I think what you pay at the pump is overriding everything else that made you pick the car. Take your car out on a romantic date, renew your vows and you'll thank us later for saving you from the ruin of a bad divorce.
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

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Slightly off-topic suggestions / thoughts that come to my head.

1. Do you need to commute every day to work?
2. Will an alternate commute time apart from the regular peak hours work? You’ll get a better fuel efficiency running during non-peak hours.
3. Have you considered possibility of public transport or Ola/Uber combined with points 1 and 2? I don’t know much about Mumbai, but it seems to be well connected in terms of public transport.

Bottom line, you have a solid car - no matter what people say about depreciation or fuel consumption. IMHO, focus on how you can reduce your fuel consumption, rather than changing the car.
1. I have to commute 15-20 days in a month mandatorily
2. Traffic is omni-present on my stretch irrespective of the time I leave for office and return
3. Daily km run is 58 end to end
4. 5 days of Ola/Uber cost will be equivalent to 2 weeks petrol for the Compass

I agree that the car is excellent and Me and my family genuinely love it. I am really looking at options to sustain it and the suggestions in this thread is definitely helping.
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

You need to recheck your math. The cost difference you will end up paying for a new car or another used car can get you a decent used car or another small car. The petrol compass is a depreciation disaster. You can explore the following options-

1. Carpool- Explore this option. It will save you from a lot of trouble now.

2. Get a cheap AT hatch like Astar. Easy to maintain and buy. Even with the low FE, you will save up a lot. Any decent Japanese non AMT should do the job.

3. Add a new Tiago EV. Negligible running cost and extended warranty can assure peace of mind.

4. Sell off the compass and get a city Hybrid. Practical choice.

5. Get a used etios diesel or a petrol(add CNG to it) employ a driver and relax at the back.
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Mate stick with the car you have. For a mere 4k savings a month it doesn't make sense to let go a wonderful car.
Plus the 4k you save on fuel would be added on maintaining a diesel car .
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Old 17th December 2023, 08:36   #45
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Re: My Jeep Compass Petrol AT is a fuel guzzler - Should I let it go?

Hybrids are expensive.
Used cars likely not reliable.
FE cars usually are boring and unsafe.
Your car is only drinking 4K/ month more over a diesel and you love it.
Easy choice mate.
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