[TheBelledJar]

Hi there!

I am in a bit of a pickle and would greatly appreciate some sage advice here. I want to buy a pre-owned SUV upto (or just above) 15L bracket. The options available are:

1. Tata Harrier (early 2020), ~20K on the odo, final price around 13.5-13.75L.
2. Jeep Compass (O) (late 2017) Diesel 4WD, ~30K on the odo, price around 12L.
3. Honda CR-V (2015) Petrol 2.4L 4WD, ~70K on the odo, price around 7.5L
4. Toyota Hyryder Neo AWD (2022), ~10K on the odo, at ~16.5L

Use case is of daily office commute, plus weekend trips, and a Himalayan odyssey once a year (hence the inclination towards a 4/AWD).

Any pointers on reliability, ASS, cost of maintenance would be much MUCH appreciated.

[OpenRoads]

Let me be loud and clear.. Cost of maintenance and 4WD SUV are indirectly proportional esp when it's a premium product like Jeep compass.

If your Himalayan thing requires an actual 4WD then start with Thar, Scorpio classic and then Compass in ascending order in terms of budget, cost and maintenance.

If you don't need a 4WD then and need a low maintenance then then any new SUVish car with good GC will do like Elevate or similar.

Harrier is good but definitely not something which can be called most reliable or have a great ASS track record.

[vattyboy]

Get a new car preferably Seltos 1.5 Turbo Htk plus @ 17 lakhs or Kushaq 1.5 Tsi Ambition.
Don't buy pre-owned with a 15 lakh budget.

I am a compass owner and its maintenance is on the higher side approximately 50k per year excluding insurance. Plus this one is a 2017 model which is already 6 years old so it will require even more maintenance.

A used Tata Harrier is a strict no as per a recent discussion in the forum a few days ago in a separate thread and the Hyryder is not fun to drive and will only take you from point A to B while a 2015 CRV is too old to consider.

[CoconutCar]

With 15L, you should consider a new car.

Some inputs :
1. AWD - you do not need 4WD for Himalayas unless you are going in snow. If all you want is some good long road trips around Himalayas from May/June to October you do not need AWD. At this moment it is more of a psychological desire, rather than need.

2. Daily Office Commute - makes me feel car needs to be wieldy. Taking SUVs to office is not best for office commutes. You will be using the car for office most of the days rather than Himalayas.

Buy a new car which is not 4WD.
In my opinion you're an ideal candidate for a Venue/Sonet/Taigun.

[asit.kulkarni93]

The CR-V makes a strong case. As it’s a global product, It will be far more reliable. Harrier is best avoided in the used car market. Compass makes a strong case but it will again be a MT.

[shashi792]

My pick would be the Jeep Compass (O) (late 2017) Diesel 4WD, ~30K on the odo, price around 12L.

Since you have already stated your budget of 15L, I would spend another 1L on regular maintenance just after I buy. This is just to ensure you don't have niggles for the next few years. For me, I would rather sit in my Punto Abarth waiting for the tow truck to take me to my FNG, rather drive past in Maruti Zen Estilo. Its not point A-to-B for me (But that's just me).

[guruji]

Check out Hyundai Tucson Diesel. It's the most powerful of the lot! No issues with respect to reliability, cost of maintenance may be slightly on the higher side as it is a CKD product. Some parts might not be readily available, but still can be managed, i think.

[venukrithish]

Do you need 4wd/awd? If it's definitely a requirement, then the Hyryder maybe. Compass is a costly affair I hear. Please stay away from used Harrier/Safari. And skipping the CR-V just for its age makes more sense.

[bijims]

Originally Posted by TheBelledJar

Hi there!

I am in a bit of a pickle and would greatly appreciate some sage advice here. I want to buy a pre-owned SUV upto (or just above) 15L bracket. The options available are:

1. Tata Harrier (early 2020), ~20K on the odo, final price around 13.5-13.75L.
2. Jeep Compass (O) (late 2017) Diesel 4WD, ~30K on the odo, price around 12L.
3. Honda CR-V (2015) Petrol 2.4L 4WD, ~70K on the odo, price around 7.5L
4. Toyota Hyryder Neo AWD (2022), ~10K on the odo, at ~16.5L

Use case is of daily office commute, plus weekend trips, and a Himalayan odyssey once a year (hence the inclination towards a 4/AWD).

Any pointers on reliability, ASS, cost of maintenance would be much MUCH appreciated.

The CR-V would be the most reliable of the lot, but it is already 8 years old and 70k on the Odo, but price is on the lower side too, considering the overall value, it should be a good buy.

I wouldn't recommend the Harrier over any of these owing to it being from the initial lot (2019 to early 2020)

The Jeep Compass 4X4 would fit most of your requirements, after-sales service and costs would be higher but considering the price and features it would be a good buy overall.

I am not a fan of the AWD Hyryder due to its low power, torque, and interior quality, fit, and finish, it's a Maruti with a Toyota badge.

Overall from the list given, the Compass would be my pick, followed by the CR-V.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by TheBelledJar

Hi there!

I am in a bit of a pickle and would greatly appreciate some sage advice here. I want to buy a pre-owned SUV upto (or just above) 15L bracket. The options available are:

1. Tata Harrier (early 2020), ~20K on the odo, final price around 13.5-13.75L.
2. Jeep Compass (O) (late 2017) Diesel 4WD, ~30K on the odo, price around 12L.
3. Honda CR-V (2015) Petrol 2.4L 4WD, ~70K on the odo, price around 7.5L
4. Toyota Hyryder Neo AWD (2022), ~10K on the odo, at ~16.5L

Use case is of daily office commute, plus weekend trips, and a Himalayan odyssey once a year (hence the inclination towards a 4/AWD).

Any pointers on reliability, ASS, cost of maintenance would be much MUCH appreciated.

I think get the CRV and keep aside the extra money you would have spent on the compass for the fuel arbitrage! 2 years in age is hardly a difference. I think the CRV will overall be a better car.

[sulliavi]

Buying new Honda Elevate should serve the purpose as its best VFM and reliable, good ASS, maintenance should also be easy.

[TheBelledJar]

Ahh so many helpful comments - thank you!

I was inclined more towards the Harrier, given it is the newest of the lot which I thought meant more reliability, but that seems to not be the case. That is that then.

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

Let me be loud and clear.. Cost of maintenance and 4WD SUV are indirectly proportional esp when it's a premium product like Jeep compass.

If your Himalayan thing requires an actual 4WD then start with Thar, Scorpio classic and then Compass in ascending order in terms of budget, cost and maintenance.

If you don't need a 4WD then and need a low maintenance then then any new SUVish car with good GC will do like Elevate or similar.

Harrier is good but definitely not something which can be called most reliable or have a great ASS track record.

I have found myself in situations when I have lost traction on a 2WD - usually after rains - on the slush-mud roads in the less paved parts of Himachal. So my concern is safety. Of course its use will be limited to such situations, but would think it would be better to have that option in that situation?

I was keen on the Thar for a long time, but I took a test drive and it just didn't do it for me. I would also prefer a five door and something that is less of an aerodynamic drag on highways.

Originally Posted by vattyboy

Get a new car preferably Seltos 1.5 Turbo Htk plus @ 17 lakhs or Kushaq 1.5 Tsi Ambition.
Don't buy pre-owned with a 15 lakh budget.

I am a compass owner and its maintenance is on the higher side approximately 50k per year including service, part change and insurance. Plus this one is a 2017 model which is already 6 years old so it will require even more maintenance.

How do the Skodas fare on the reliability front? Is the network adequate across the country?

Re the Compass - I absolutely love the way it looks and drives, my major concern is the reliability. I have read horror stories of the car just locking up, persistent issues with electricals, and extortionate costs for part replacements.

The pre-owned one I have my eyes on seems to be well-taken care off, the condition and service records are immaculate - how much of a risk is it in terms of the factors above?

Originally Posted by shashi792

My pick would be the Jeep Compass (O) (late 2017) Diesel 4WD, ~30K on the odo, price around 12L.

Since you have already stated your budget of 15L, I would spend another 1L on regular maintenance just after I buy. This is just to ensure you don't have niggles for the next few years. For me, I would rather sit in my Punto Abarth waiting for the tow truck to take me to my FNG, rather drive past in Maruti Zen Estilo. Its not point A-to-B for me (But that's just me).

I don't mind spending the money outright, I just don't want persistent niggles that crop up that erode confidence in the ability to take the vehicle for longer journeys. What is the stuff I should have looked at pre-emptively? Secondly, are there any service packages etc that I can purchase that can mitigate the risk of huge bills for random part failures?

Originally Posted by guruji

Check out Hyundai Tucson Diesel. It's the most powerful of the lot! No issues with respect to reliability, cost of maintenance may be slightly on the higher side as it is a CKD product. Some parts might not be readily available, but still can be managed, i think.

I tried looking for a Tuscan, but anything after 2018 is closer to 20L. Plus I have had Hyundais before and they age badly?!

Originally Posted by bijims

Overall from the list given, the Compass would be my pick, followed by the CR-V.

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I think get the CRV and keep aside the extra money you would have spent on the compass for the fuel arbitrage! 2 years in age is hardly a difference. I think the CRV will overall be a better car.

I read that current owners are having problems sourcing replacement parts of the CR-V and that Honda has more or less given up on ASS on it?

I don't mind the lower FE as long as the car can run reliably and well for another 5 years for the purposes I mentioned in the first post.

Originally Posted by sulliavi

Buying new Honda Elevate should serve the purpose as its best VFM and reliable, good ASS, maintenance should also be easy.

So this was the other option - a new Elevate does seem to take care of a lot of issues with the options here. Reviews seem to suggest that it may be underpowered at times and not really a fun vehicle to drive? That would ultimately be fine with me as long as other concerns re reliability, cost, and ability to deal with some rough terrain is taken care of.

[Toni]

Out of the four choices I would select Honda CR V but if you can do without 4WD I would suggest new Honda Elevate which will fit in your budget.

Better to avoid used ones in this budget.

[Clouseau]

It's been said before - NEW. You do not want to get stuck with a lemon of a used car - will surely leave a sour taste!

Could get a Seltos 1.5, feature loaded HTK+ for 15.5 OTR. I have the 1.5 engine and it's more than adequate - unless you're into highway racing

Cheers mate!

[Sandy Damodaran]

A left of the field option, If this is not going to be your primary car, Get a Pajero Sport! You should get one from 2016/7 vintage fairly cheap, the money saved would be gobbled up in the spares though.

I got one from 2014 a couple of years back, got it redone and remapped and haven't been happier with any car more.

Seeing that you are from Mumbai, there is still one authorized showroom in Pune and you do not have to worry about

Have used it over 70K across the length and breadth of India, from Pune to Ladak, Pune to Kerala, Multiple trips to MP even to Rajasthan in peak summer. Doesn't break a sweat!

But do be aware, it is a pain to drive daily in traffic and Spares are an issue.