[mayuresh]

I have been a happy user of Tata Safari Dicor for 12 years.

I can still continue with it, but for some knee trouble that I have developed, use of clutch in heavy traffic causes a lot of soreness now. So, wish to switch to AT/CVT car. So AT/CVT is the primary requirement.

Usage pattern: City usage of about 100km per week, occasional long distance trips, may be around 4/5 times a year.

4 seater is ok but it should be spacious. 5 seats of Safari got utilized on very few occasions in my usage.

Should drive well on rough roads, pothole ridden city roads as well as somewhat rough roads when we go for outings.

I am a little over 6' and prefer tall cars with good leg room, also prefer good leg room for the rear seats.

Would prefer higher GC and largish wheel base.

Among comfort features: Good air conditioning for both front and the rear seats and low NVH levels. Prefer good thigh support for tall passengers.

I am not much into ICE or other gizmos. All those are welcome but aren't a primary requirement.

Basic safety features will do, whichever are a norm today. I am not very demanding about those.

Good boot space for outstation travel. Safari has really spoiled us for this, but can settle for a little less.

Good road presence and good view of the road, something I am used to in a Safari.

Budget : 20L (extendible).

So far I seem to have liked Honda Elevate reviews. But not sure if I should really switch from 2.2L Dicor to 1500 cc engine. How much will I miss the power of Safari on long drives? (I am not particularly sedate style driver when it comes to outings with good highways.)

Overall I find that there is a lot of crowding of SUVs in the under 20L range and then at the higher end they start close to 30L range, nothing much in between in terms of price. Curious why is that so.

Please suggest.

[Arjun.hb]

Scorpio N did have an AT in Z4 trim. Not as spacious as Safari but close. Does everything else better than the Safari.

[07CR]

Originally Posted by mayuresh

Overall I find that there is a lot of crowding of SUVs in the under 20L range and then at the higher end they start close to 30L range, nothing much in between in terms of price. Curious why is that so.

Please suggest.

Originally Posted by Arjun.hb

Scorpio N did have an AT in Z4 trim. Not as spacious as Safari but close. Does everything else better than the Safari.

Agree with Arjun. Scorpio N is something what TATA should have done with Safari facelift. You would not miss anything from the Safari, but feel upgraded in almost all parameters. Z4 AT seems best bet for you.

Mind you no other car in your budget will provide you the road presence and driving position of OG Safari. If you ready to let go that, Seltos FL (GT Line/HTX+ iMT), might be another alternative.

Elevate has good driving position. But road presence is a little awkward. Have read conflicting reports regarding the interior space for taller occupants. Many have found it uncomfortable due to angled flooring, which results in poor underthigh support. That along with the lazy 1.5 NA CVT Combo is something which might disappoint you on the highways.

[condor]

Originally Posted by mayuresh

So far I seem to have liked Honda Elevate reviews. But not sure if I should really switch from 2.2L Dicor to 1500 cc engine. How much will I miss the power of Safari on long drives?.

Test Drive and check is what I will say. Our Safari's are two tonners, while the Elevate is much lighter. The lower power/torque will be compensated by the lower vehicle weight.

[mayuresh]

UPDATE: Seeing the options out there and the feedback so far I'd like to be flexible with the budget. Please feel free to suggest around 30L also.

[PaddleShifter]

Originally Posted by mayuresh

Please feel free to suggest around 30L also.

If you are a happy Safari Dicor owner, you’ll have no problem dealing with TATA service in my opinion. Based on this, I’d suggest that you test drive the TATA Harrier (not Safari). You will be able to compare it with the Dicor and see if it fits your requirements.

This should be followed by the ScorpioN test drive combined with the XUV700 also. You can then shortlist the one among these three cars and compare it with the next car (i.e. Seltos) that is different than the three you have test driven.

Seltos is not in the same leagues as the Dicor in terms of space but excels at all other areas. If you like the Seltos after driving larger cars, then you should be able to pick Seltos easily without confusion.

[GTO]

Since you are already a Safari owner and well familiar with the pros & cons of Tata ownership, why don't you take a spin in the 2023 Tata Safari? Great looking SUV, but has its cons (refer to our official review). The AT & engine are well-matched.

Since you have increased your budget to 30-lakhs, the segment best is the XUV700 IMHO, followed by the Scorpio-N. If not an urgent need, you could also wait for the 4-door Thar that's coming in 2024. Will be style with practicality.

Also TD the Innova Hycross Hybrid. I'm a huge fan of this car. The mid-variants fall in your budget. It's now very SUV'ish in terms of styling and offers unbeatable practicality + fuel economy.

[MoonShot]

My small recommendation set - You could be test-driving the following to decide:
1) Scorpio N - This may be the best fit in terms of meeting your needs
2) Harrier - An amazing road presence and very comfortable to drive and ride in
3) XUV 700 - An amazing drive (only hampered by the waiting period) - You may be able to bypass the waiting period by selecting a lower model and checking with a dealer in a smaller town
4) Hector - The new hector is amazing - reasonably tall and good to drive along with loads of storage space. Reasonably exciting to drive as well. In fact, it could rank higher than Harrier as well from certain angles.

If you can push your budget slightly more, perhaps try -
1) Isuzu Mu-X
2) Jeep Meridian
3) Gloster
4) Second-hand 3 L Ford Endeavour?

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[mayuresh]

Originally Posted by GTO

If not an urgent need, you could also wait for the 4-door Thar that's coming in 2024. Will be style with practicality.

I absolutely like the present Thar's road presence, GC etc. But I understand its ride quality isn't that great and it's not for family outings.

I see people comparing it with Jimni which doesn't seem to fit the bill either.

Yes, 4-door (or 5-door?) Thar would be great to evaluate and I am in not a great hurry. Thanks.

[Torque123]

My suggestion would be the Toyota Innova Hycross. If I were in your shoes, I would hold on to the safari for a few more weeks/months & wait to see how the recent Scorpio-N accident with the Slavia is dealt by Mahindra & what the outcome is. Refer to the thread regarding this incident on our very own forum in case if you haven't yet. Once the reason for the airbags not deploying during the accident is established, then I would short list the Scorpio-N & XUV700 (if the reason is not a manufacturing/design etc defect). If it is a manufacturing defect, then who knows what else will not work or stop working especially when it comes to safety.

[BleueNinja]

You have owned a Tata for 12 years hence I understand you would be quite familiar with Authorised Service Centres as well as FNGs. You are familiar with tata as a brand as well.

I would recommend Tata Harrier XZA (if sunroof isn’t a requirement) it gets all must haves plus some good to have features as well. This should cost you 24-25 lacs OTR pune.

The ride quality is great , drives really well and has street CRED. It’s spacious for a 5 seater and has a great AC performance. The automatic is really tuned well. It’s quite well balanced between efficiency and performance. I get a mileage of 10-11 km/ltr in heavy pune traffic and on highways I am able to get 17-19 km/ltr.

Since you will be going for an automatic variant you won’t be a victim of “knee console issue” as well once you have figured out a good seating position.

The boot space is good and 60:40 split seats can be utilised to get some more space. Also the front driver seat gets a lumbar support that you can adjust to provide adequate support to your back.

The one con that I would like to highlight is that I am 6’1 tall and I feel the under thigh support of front seat could have been tad bit better than what it is currently. However, a fellow Harrier owner who is as tall as me didn’t have any issues with under thigh support from his Harrier, so it’s better you check it out for yourself. Under thigh support won’t be an issue for your passengers though as the seats are really comfortable.

You can consider XUV 700 AX7 variant but won’t a 7 seater be overkill for you? AX5 variant isn’t speced out well for the price which it comes at.

Regardless I would say you can either go with ScorpioN, XUV 700 or Harrier.

Creta, Seltos or Elevate won’t appeal to you coming from a behemoth like Safari Dicor irrespective of how you look at it, whether it’s the build quality, engine power and feel or the road presence.

[Jaisalmeriya]

Hi Mayuresh,

If you are open to a pre-worshipped, BHP-ian-owned car, I am currently looking to find a home for my Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition.

You can check the listing here:

https://classifieds.team-bhp.com/buy.../Harrier.html/

Let us connect if you are interested.

[rakesh_r]

Since you are used to a BOF, the Scorpio N will fullfill your requirements. My neighbour has a black N AT, is 6 feet tall with a slightly heavy build is extremely happy with his purchase.

[Toni]

Originally Posted by GTO

Since you are already a Safari owner and well familiar with the pros & cons of Tata ownership, why don't you take a spin in the 2023 Tata Safari? Great looking SUV, but has its cons (refer to our official review). The AT & engine are well-matched.

Since you have increased your budget to 30-lakhs, the segment best is the XUV700 IMHO, followed by the Scorpio-N. If not an urgent need, you could also wait for the 4-door Thar that's coming in 2024. Will be style with practicality.

Also TD the Innova Hycross Hybrid. I'm a huge fan of this car. The mid-variants fall in your budget. It's now very SUV'ish in terms of styling and offers unbeatable practicality + fuel economy.

Agree with GTO's suggestions. If I would have been in your place my choices would be similar:

1. XUV 700
2. Scorpio-N
3. Innova Hycross Hybrid

Take TD's of all SUV's available so that you will know which one suits you. The 4 Door Thar should be more specious, refined and improved in many aspects over the 2 Door if you are willing to wait.