[Sandy Damodaran]

Originally Posted by HJ13

Hi,

Hi,

A 2013 registered Pajero Sport with only 18000 Km on odo is available around 12L. Should I buy it?

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Hey, so a slightly different perspective here. I got a 2014 Pajero Sport in Dec last year which had around 100K on the odo. I also have a Cedia which I had got brand new, but managed to get in a pretty major accident.

What I think about the PS is it's one brilliant vehicle and is abuse friendly and also built like a typical Jap vehicle.

I haven't found it hard to source parts for the PS till now. Given that it had sold decent number (Compared to Cedia), the spares are easily available, however they are priced at a premium to say a fortuner of the same vintage.

I have changed a lot of parts since I got it (Clutch Plates, Brake Rotors and Calipers,Timing Kit, Suspensions, all filters, AC serviced etc). Sourcing these were not a problem, if you can live with a lead time of 2 weeks.

I have put in around 17K Kms since I got the vehicle, including a trip to MP forests during peak summer, and a recent one from Pune to Leh and back I also got it remapped by Quantum tuning soon as I got the vehicle and run in with the new parts.

In the meanwhile, my Brother in law also managed to find a PS of the same vintage with 30K running, he had to get the suspensions replaced as well as they had gone kaput without use. The timing kit is also supposed to be replaced in 7 years or 100K kms. Purely as a vehicle, It is awesome and way too much fun to drive. However, do remember that it is from a stable which has pretty much shut shop.

The spare parts are at a premium, the people who can work on it more so. This vehicle needs good amount of involvement on a regular basis. Also, Not sure if you have read it elsewhere the low end torque is nothing to speak of. It's the mid and top end where all the fun is.

I got it simply because I loved the driving experience in it. More of a want than need. Essentially, getting it serviced would require some amount of planning.

A few pics from Leh of Cedia and PS. Both are awesome vehicles, but get them only if you can spend time on them. On the plus side, there are gem of people on this forum, like @vigsom who can help on niggles and worries.

[sdubey23]

I picked up a similar 2013 model with 115k on the ODO early this year. A few weeks back I completed the 120k kms service as well. All the works you've outlined for the car has been carried out on my car. You may check my posts for more details in this threadhttps://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-...review-26.html (My Mitsubishi Pajero Sport - A comprehensive review).

I'm with your mechanic on the timing kit. It's better to replace the entire kit than just the belts. 25k is about the right price though you'll get other after market kits for slightly lesser.

My two cents on the car under question:

Pros:

1. Less driven. Very hard to find such examples.Excellent VFM car while buying used. It's a lot of car for the money. Unmatched comfort and ride quality. Perhaps the best in its category from it's time.

2. True blue 4x4 SUV. One of the greats in its category. Excellent performance by the 2.5 ltr mill. It's a gem of an engine. One of the smoothest and most refined diesels you'll find out there.

3. Built to last. Don't let the age of the car put you off. It's a tough car with premium quality components that are made to last. The mechanical stuff is built to take good abuse and still keep going. Even the interiors, knobs, stalks, latches, handles, switches, etc are thoughtfully designed and look like they can last for decades. If maintained well I'm pretty sure the car will outlive even you! Imagine passing down a Pajero Sport as family heirloom to your child. That'll be something else!

4. Rugged looks with a hint of understated elegance. The thing just stands out in an ocean of cut-copy-paste cars and SUVs out there. At traffic signals, in a parking lot, at the toll booths, petrol stations, when you tell someone what car you drive.

5. Pajero=Passion. Period. You're crazy, irrational, wild. That's who a Pajero owner is. It takes time to get used to the extra attention and follow up questions from wide-eyed on-lookers, other car owners, gas station workers, security guards; even kids! One simply cannot put a price on this.

Cons:

1. Less driven. This is also a con as it is a big motor diesel. The reasons have been better explained by the more technically inclined and experienced members in the forum.

2. Spares and service: Regular maintenance and upkeep of the car is easy-peasy if you live in a big city. Doing this diligently and sticking to the manufacturer's schedule should ensure you don't run into major issues with the car. However, in the unfortunate event where you do have to do a major work (I'm talking blown head gaskets, failed fuel pumps, ground transmissions, etc) it will be tough but not impossible. More of a question of how much time and money are you willing to spend on it at this point. The silver lining is that there are success stories right here on our Team BHP forum of even these being done at reasonable costs as well. Bottom line: any competent FNG who knows what he's doing and has good intention (not trying to rip off customers) can maintain and fix this car.

3. Price: While it is not good to low-ball good car owners, I suggest you negotiate hard and get it down to a price which YOU think is fair. Pajero, at the end of the day IS an expensive car to own and maintain in comparison to other options. So, take into account all the possible short and long term expenses while quoting a price.

Parting notes:

I've seen a lot of irrational fear and 'whataboutery' associated with the Pajero Sport.

In my view it's a bare basic old-school pick-up truck (Triton base) dressed up as a station wagon. Pop the hood and you'll see, not some alien technology that requires engineers from Space X to figure out! It's nothing more than a crude big motor diesel with a little fancy tech gadgetry to make it more planet-friendly and wallet friendly. The same 2.5 coupled with the 4x4 transmission has been doing service in jungles, mountains, mines, and construction sites world over for over a decade now. I've seen pajeros and tritons in Malaysia and Indonesia that have done 3,4, 5 lac kms and going strong shile requiring only regular oil changes and wear and tear part replacements.

Good luck and keep us posted here!

[Sandy Damodaran]

Originally Posted by sdubey23

I picked up a similar 2013 model with 115k on the ODO early this year. A few weeks back I completed the 120k kms service as well. All the works you've outlined for the car has been carried out on my car. You may check my posts for more details in this threadhttps://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-...review-26.html (My Mitsubishi Pajero Sport - A comprehensive review).

Congrats! I hadn't seen that thread. The car looks lovely. I had read somewhere that the vehicles till 2013 were CBU units and the assembly started post 2014.

[Akshayraj]

Yeah Absolutely. It is way better than 1st & 2nd Generation Toyota Fortuner or Ford Endeavor (Everest) in terms of Looks, Power, Performance and 4x4 Capabilities

[HJ13]

Thanks everyone for replying. Here is the update from my side.

I have not bought the vehicle. There was a communication gap about the price. The owner's expectation was around 15L (not 12L) which I found way too much. Almost every reply here has warned me that 12L is on the higher side, so 15L is out of the question.

I am looking for other options.

Imagine passing down a Pajero Sport as family heirloom to your child.
One simply cannot put a price on this.
...not some alien technology that requires engineers from Space X to figure out!

Thanks sdubey23 for the encouraging words. You surely are in love with the PS. Your ownership thread has helped me estimating the maintenance tasks.

I have changed a lot of parts since I got it (Clutch Plates, Brake Rotors and Calipers,Timing Kit, Suspensions, all filters, AC serviced etc).
..my Brother in law also managed to find a PS of the same vintage with 30K running, he had to get the suspensions replaced as well as they had gone kaput without use.

Thanks Sandy Damodaran. Your PS and Cedia looks nice! If you have it handy, can you post the price paid for this maintenance work? Suspension work at 30KMs running is surely an unexpected and big expense for Pajero Sport.

There is a high level of quality associated ...

Many thanks vigsom for replying in detail, I was expecting and waiting for it
Are you still in Gujarat? Can you please PM me contact details of Mr Kedar from Kedar Automobiles, Vadodara? I want to have his opinion for a Pajero Sport in Vadodara. As a newbie, I can't PM anyone.

Check the service history of the car before the purchase.

Thanks Samba. As there is no authorised Mitsubishi service centre functioning in Gujarat, it is not possible to get service history. One need to rely on service booklet and bills if the owner have them.

[bharanidharang]

Forget the mileage and the age of the vehicle for a moment. How often was the vehicle running. Has it been used regularly even for a minimal number of Kms ? If yes, then get a good mechanic and if you are aware of someone to service it, have it checked out. Parts and maintenance might still drag you on cost.

[gpsbrar]

Originally Posted by HJ13

Hi,

A 2013 registered Pajero Sport with only 18000 Km on odo is available around 12L. Should I buy it?

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Hi

Just came across your thread. I am looking for a Pajero Sports with low mileage. By any chance do you still have details of the car ?

Would be helpful !!

Regards

[HJ13]

My apologies for not updating here on this thread but after much brainstorming I finally have bought it, run it more than 10,000 KM, completed two services and am fully enjoying it.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I am to write a review as I find some time.

PS: There was a communication gap, the vehicle was run 13600 KM, the odo now reads around 24000 KM.

Attaching some photographs for now, more info in the review I am to write.

[Denali]

Hi forum members
I am on the verge of picking up a low mileage 2015 Pajero Sport (4x4, MT). The car is owned by an NRI, and he has always had 3-4 cars parallely. It will cost me close to 12 lakhs and has done around 30k kms, all services done by the authorized Mitsubishi service center. I will share the price breakup below.

On the other hand, I could get a 2012+ Audi A6/A4/BMW F10 5er/W212 E class for a similar price, but am not actively pursuing this option as some online research suggested that most german executive sedans tend to demand major expenses, in the form of part failure and maintenance once they’re 10 years old and start nearing the six digit odo mark. Please share your takes on this.

I plan to drive the vehicle for at least, the next five years, and would very much like an “as trouble-free ownership as possible”.

I have the pleasure of being closely acquainted with someone who bought a brand new Pajero Sport AT 4x2 in 2016 and has since driven it close to 4 lakh kms, and the vehicle continues to serve as his daily drive. This speaks volumes about the build of the PS and has somewhat shown that the vehicle displays traits I value.

I had also finalized a 2.4 Accord MT from 2011, done 30k odd kms, but it’s cost was coming out to be close to 6.5 lakhs (4.7 price+1.6 tax). Didn’t feel like spending that much on an Accord although the vehicle was very well kept.

Pajero Sport price breakup:
Price- 9.5 lakhs
Re registration cost- 1.2 lakhs
Expenses required immediately after purchase- 1.5 lakh (60k for timing kit under preventive maintenance , 90k misc)
*I am yet to get the vehicle inspected by a mechanic/workshop, so the last expense element may turn out to be significantly lesser.

So, please give your opinions on getting a 20k run Pajero Sport vs a used german executive sedan, with the objective of an easy and dependable 5 year ownership.

[Denali]

BHPians, please give your views. There is some issue with the paperwork of the PS in question, which will hopefully get resolved in a fortnight. Meanwhile, I wanna make sure if the key factor prompting me to get this PS instead of an F10/W212/C7, i.e. them becoming potential future money pits actually holds true. Thanks

[BlackBeard]

A Mitsubishi vehicle is very reliable even without ASC support as long as you can source OEM parts and have a decent garage to service your vehicle.

Have you driven the vehicle extensively? I found the driving position to be a quite uncomfortable having owned a Pajero GLX in the past, which was a real pleasure to drive.

Get the time/mileage based services done though, sourcing OEM parts might be a bit tough though but they are readily available in Thailand. Resale will be an issue but the vehicle will last you a long time.

[azm@bpl]

Originally Posted by Denali

BHPians, please give your views. There is some issue with the paperwork of the PS in question, which will hopefully get resolved in a fortnight. Meanwhile, I wanna make sure if the key factor prompting me to get this PS instead of an F10/W212/C7, i.e. them becoming potential future money pits actually holds true. Thanks

Hi,
I am also rocking in the same boat. Have you acquired Pajero Sport?
If yes how it has been performing so far, how much you have to spend on initial repairs and parts replacement?

If not, any specific reason which made you shun your earlier decision?

[sdubey23]

Azm@bpl, Denali,

If you are getting low-run specimens with complete service history, you can close your eyes and go for it.

From my experience of owning one and having seen 10-12 other pajeros, all major expenses begin once you cross 1.2 lac kms.

So, a 30-40k km run Pajero over a 5 year ownership timeline averaging 10k-12k kms/ year makes it an extremely VFM proposition.

You can sell off the vehicle once the big expenses begin to creep-in post 1 lac km mark.

Hope this helps.

[Denali]

Originally Posted by azm@bpl

Hi,
I am also rocking in the same boat. Have you acquired Pajero Sport?

Yes, I've acquired it and am enjoying it to the core. I'm really grateful, I was able to lay my hands on this. I've driven it close to 6k kms since May, the odo now reads 23k ks. The original owner got a basic service done from Excel Mitsubishi as a goodwill gesture prior to handing the vehicle over to me. It costed him around 18k. Post purchase, the first thing I did was to replace the timing kit. I got that done from the Mitsubishi Dealer here in Chandigarh, and it costed me 55k (all belts, bearings etc).

I've looked at quite a few examples, and can judge PS' now to a good extent by the pics. Feel free to PM your contact number and I'll help you in every possible way.