[itsmeparvathy9]

Originally Posted by venus1975

That's the perception issue. As you would be aware, these are prices of the top end models with all the bells and whistles that were present only in a segment or two above, until few years ago. I guess Hyundai still does not provide a Diesel AT in Venue so that people don't call it the most expensive compact SUV forgetting what exactly the car offers.

As I mentioned earlier in another post, 16.5L Sonet will still make sense for someone who wants almost the same experience (feature-wise) of Seltos in a compact body. These are people who have the budget for a Seltos but do not want to deal with its size for various reasons and hence go for a Sonet.

Exactly, you took the words right out of me, the Sonet is a mini-Seltos in every way as rightly put in our Team-BHP review, it's got everything from a segment above with all the bells and whistles in a sub 4 metre form, not everybody wants a 4.3 metre car to roll around with, and besides if you are going for the Diesel AT Sonet you are getting even the same engine tuning from the Seltos in a compact form and much cheaper as well.

The experience at a cost which does not burn a hole in your pocket is what sub 4 metre SUVs bring to the table. The Sonet and the Venue being the best examples, you can say the Brezza too because mild-hybrid Vitara is going to be a jacked-up version of the Brezza with the same engine and gearbox and interior features, perhaps maybe the panoramic sunroof and a few other premium features are likely to be the only differentiators in terms of features.

None of the other cars in this sub 4 metre SUV segment use the same engine and gearbox combination or offer the same feel and features as in their bigger cars.

[KPR]

Originally Posted by SanjayW

WR-V diesel VX(Sunroof) is priced at 14.5L onroad.

Bad pricing. Now I understand why this car is struggling to sell well. Priced atleast 1.5L more for diesel. This model is comparable to ES-TDCI in titanium variant. It looks like Honda is not aggressively marketing this car based on recent Jazz's safety rating.

[khanmaj]

Though I am yet to get the voting privilege on the forum however, this thread came at a very right time for me. I am looking for a CSUV to replace my old XUV500 and considered the Nexon, Sonet and Brezza. I checked out all these in the last weekend and my preference would be Nexon> Brezza> Sonet simply because of the Safety, Engine and Reliability hence the winner is Nexon

[Benoit]

Voted for Nexon.

I am still young enough for a manual and my choice would always be a diesel since my usage is and will be mostly on the highways.

Nexon's engine is great. It has good performance and highway manners. Hate the instrument cluster and the rear windshield visibility though.

I like the xuv300 too. But the boot is a deal breaker for me, despite being the most powerful diesel in the segment.

[venus1975]

Originally Posted by khanmaj

Though I am yet to get the voting privilege on the forum however, this thread came at a very right time for me. I am looking for a CSUV to replace my old XUV500 and considered the Nexon, Sonet and Brezza. I checked out all these in the last weekend and my preference would be Nexon> Brezza> Sonet simply because of the Safety, Engine and Reliability hence the winner is Nexon

Which engine/gearbox combination are you comparing? Because you have Brezza in the mix, I guess you are looking at Petrol only.

[khanmaj]

Originally Posted by venus1975

Which engine/gearbox combination are you comparing? Because you have Brezza in the mix, I guess you are looking at Petrol only.

Yes. I am strictly looking at the petrol variants with manual gearbox because of my specific requirement. I test drove the Nexon and 1.0 L turbo Sonet. Sonet is very refined and it’s really a good package overall however, Nexon takes the game in handling and drivability. Nexon is in the market for a long time and Tata has worked hard to improve it as a complete product though I did find some fit and finish issues. I drive a Tiago and my overall experience with the TATA ASS is satisfactory while on the other hand Kia is an unexplored territory for me hence I have conscious approach towards Sonet.
I would not have even considered both Nexon and Brezza had I been looking for an auto gearbox options.

[tj123]

Nexon is a well-built car but the AMT transmission, digital speedo console and rear boot design are not to my taste. A 6 months service interval is also a big factor when others are offering a 12 months schedule. I have always preferred a naturally aspirated engine to a turbo one. Hence voted for the Brezza, to me its the safest bet in terms of engine, 6-speed TC transmission, fuel efficiency and serviceability. Agreed that as a Maruti product it is no longer hold the value for money tag, but it has all its basics covered.

[Mechanto]

Voted for Nexon, except for the automatic transmission, this is a complete car. For a layman who cannot differentiate CVT / DCT / TQ / AMT, this is a COMPLETE CAR.

[ramji_or]

My brother and I were looking into this segment last year, almost all the options felt compromised in some way. But the prices did not reflect those compromises at all, in fact the prices were nothing but premium as the market is willing to spend the extra bucks for this body style.

We ended up finalizing the i20 IMT and he seems to be happy with the decision. The final contenders from this segment in our exercise were the Sonet and Magnite, though I was personally biased towards the Nexon.

[itsmeparvathy9]

I am surprised at the fact that many of the BHPians voted for Kia Sonet and it stands third in the poll at the moment.
I was sure of the fact that the Nexon and the Brezza would top this poll considering that they are in fact the most popular in this segment in terms of sales, But the Sonet coming in third wasn't expected.

[Rocketscience]

So till yesterday, I was happy with my booking of Brezza LXI for my wife and had made detailed notes of which touchscreen system, speakers, steering controls and all to get, I had liked the car, its looks went ahead and booked it on July 6 and it made and still makes a lot of sense, especially at that price of 9 Lakhs on road.

Suddenly out of the blue I got this urge to re check its competitors once again with family (I had checked them all out from time to time but wanted to revisit once), fun Sunday right? Wrong!

After visits to Hyundai, Tata, Nissan and back to Maruti, I'am stuck and stuck badly, never thought I of all people will be posting this here, I advice all my near and dear ones on what to buy, but here goes my dilemma.

LXI is gone for good and after test driving Brezza in AT, wife strictly wants to go for AT now, so there goes the budget and here come the other contenders.

Long story short, I have shortlisted these 3 competitors and am stuck in an infinite loop.

Brezza VXi AT @ around 12.5 Lakhs on road

+ves
Stupendous electric car like refinement
Smooth Aisin sourced AT with paddle shifters
Great Looks
Most Suitable Engine for wife with great low end, smooth nature
Great Mileage, possibly the best of these 3
Decent kit with Touchscreen with Apple Car Play, Steering Controls, Electrically Foldable and adjustable ORVMs, Automatic AC with great looking Unit and rest of the basics
Maruti's reliability and peace of mind
Great Resale
Already Booked LXi so least hassle to change the booking (as opposed to cancellation)

-ves
Poverty spec when compared to Venue
Asking for same money as DCT and Turbo Charged Venue
Misses like ordinary looking wheel covers (strictly don't want to spend a Penny more on the car, already way way overbudget and this variant overpriced),No Silver Skid plates making it look barebones from the outside and other cosmetic misses like No Roof Rails, interiors with single tone, I already couldn't justify 1.7 Lakhs more for VXi vs LXi and this is 3.5 Lakhs over that
1.65 Lakhs of premium for AT (Maybe justified with long term reliability of Japanese made Aisin unit?)

Venue S(O) DCT @ 12.5ish on road

+ves
Much more powerful Turbo petrol engine with properly fantastic performance and lightning fast DCT for the same price!
We love its looks the most in this segment.
Almost everything that Brezza has and
Automatic White LED head headlamps
TPMS
Rear Wiper, Roof rails,
Wireless Apple car play
Full colour futuristic looking Instrument cluster
Front tweeters
Cruise control
Parcel tray
Leather steering and generally a better done interior feel than VXi especially

-ves
Manual AC but to be fair the buttons look good and that's all that matters to me, I set it manually and perhaps wife might do the same
No Electrically foldable ORVMs (I mean come on)
Performance potential will most definitely not get utilised other than me driving it rarely so I won't consider my fun as a positive here as the car is primarily for her
Not so great mileage will definitely be felt by both of us but is it really that inferior? 1 or 2 KM/l won't make a great difference but much more than that will, it will be driven sedately though
Fears regarding DCTs reliability but touchwood there have been hardly any negative reports for this engine and gearbox combo so far
Have to cancel booking at Maruti and go through the hassle of getting the refunds, booking it again here, although this is more of a tantrum than real minus.

Surprise Entry

Magnite XV Executive Turbo CVT @10.1 ish unbelievable Lakhs

+ves
Good Looks
Liveable Interiors with most of the basic kit and surprisingly includes decent looking Diamond Cut Alloys and Push button start with keyless entry (admittedly not that important features to us but they are there so why not)
Punchy Turbo Petrol whose performance sits in between Venue and Brezza and is most definitely enjoyable to drive.

-ves
Average Ride Quality (but we can live with it without any sort of remorse)
Less than ideal NVH from the engine (it surely vibrates and feels harsh, compared to Brezza especially the difference is huuuge!)
Nissan's unknown aftersales experience and resale value
Once again the performance potential will go under utilised by wife and her style of driving
Potentially high wait times but SA has promised to be able to arrange it reasonably quickly but those are just his words
Less cabin space than Brezza and Venue
Misses on Touchscreen Audio and with that Apple Car play which again can be somewhat lived with considering the massive savings.
Is this significantly less fuel efficient in real world?

So the deal is this, Brezza AT is the default choice here but these 2 are posing a big Dilemma, should we save 2.5 Lakhs with the Magnite? (don't want to go any higher for upper variants of this car as Magnite to me frankly is not worth much more)
Or more importantly should we go with the Venue for same price with, without a doubt better on paper and in real life specs and kit, keeping in mind wife's requirements?

I would personally pick the Venue if it were for me but am stuck because wife's requirements and expectations are very different from mine and Brezza and Magnite are also solid choices for her.

P.S
I don't know how to add a poll, so if mods can help with that, it would be great.

PPS
This will be wife's first car, I failed to mention this, she also is learning to drive currently.

[itsmeparvathy9]

I would like to suggest two more alternatives you could consider:

1. Renault Kiger RXT(O)
You get this variant at Rs.11.1 lakhs on-road, it is a lakh more than the Magnite but you do get an 8-inch touchscreen with Android Auto and Apple Carplay, Reverse Camera, LED Headlights and DRLs, 4 airbags, Driver armrest with storage, Rear AC Vents and 405 litres of boot space over the Nissan Magnite XV Turbo Executive variant. The Magnite however has Brake Assist, ESP, Hill Hold Control and Traction Control which the Kiger lacks.
From a true VFM perspective, the Magnite wins but as regards Service and other factors like future in India, Renault is a much safer bet. Moreover, Renault's ride and handling manners are much better than the Magnite's too.

2. Toyota Urban Cruiser Mid-Grade AT
For a lakh less than the New Brezza, you get the Toyota badged version of the older Brezza, dealers will put in more offers too, you may check it out if you don't mind getting an older generation model. You get the following as general discounts: Rs 12K Cash + 24K Exchange Bonus + Rs 5000 Accessories + Rs 3000 Corporate Discount.

Do check these out too before making your decision. As far as from the options given the Magnite is certainly the most VFM and the Brezza would be the better pick as far as fuel efficiency and reliability are concerned, the 6-speed AT of the Brezza would be my pick over the 7-speed DCT of the Venue.

[sukhbirST]

Originally Posted by Rocketscience

So till yesterday, ........This will be wife's first car, I failed to mention this, she also is learning to drive currently.

Extremely useful inputs , am in the same dilemma and looking forward to more views pse. Surely, they (Brezza) are charging more for the TC VXi model. Personally, would wait for 6 airbags rule to kick in from 01 Oct22.

[Jakku]

I voted for Nexon as I have been owning one for past 4+ years and have absolutely no complaints what-so-ever; regarding both the vehicle and service center. This is a car that can be blindly suggested to someone who is looking for one in this price bracket and segment.

However, I do not agree that Punch/ Brezza is in the same league of Venue/ XUV 300/ Nexon. So, the list put for vote is a mix from different segments and as such a straight comparison and voting may not be right in my opinion. Still, if someone looking for a Punch can "upgrade" to a Nexon/ Venue/ XUV 300 is really great and if affordable and usage demands, should consider it.

[baarish84]

Originally Posted by Rocketscience

So till yesterday, I was happy with my booking of Brezza LXI for my wife and had made detailed notes of which touchscreen system, speakers, steering controls and all to get, I had liked the car, its looks went ahead and booked it on July 6 and it made and still makes a lot of sense, especially at that price of 9 Lakhs on road.

For the use case scenario you have highlighted, Brezza AT is perfect choice for you . Think again on turbos. Your wife is going to drive the car , and she is learning to drive. lower preference should be given to driving thrills of the turbo engines/ DCT gearboxes, compared to fuss free city driving offered by NA + AT combo.

Plus, you get peace of mind of Maruti.