Just realised,... elite sedans are not for me - Now... Safari / Scorpio?

gbpscars · 15th May 2007, 20:51

hi TBHP-ians,

with all due respect to all those who guided me in choosing a OHC VTEC, I'm back again for your opinion.

I'm now looking for a ride that is purely practical for my lifestyle:

- I love driving only on highways, open roads.
- I have other choices to commute to work and in city
- Love to drive to rural locations often
- Cant afford maintaining 2 vehicles, leave alone the troubles of parking both of them inside my society premises.
- My OHC is being used only by my wife to drop my kid to school, just 4 kms away, by me on Sundays to have a pleasant drive, and sometimes we do out of city trips, making sure we stay on good road all the time

(The car has done 9000 kms in a year)

I have lately realised that I drive my car to the city only on Sundays when the traffic is low, I drive out of the city only on paved roads, try to stick onto petrol bunks that I know or look good enough, am badly disabled in terms of travel to places that have no roads, but are too good to miss.

As I'm looking forward to hit the highway more often, and make odd trips to rural areas. The vehicles in my head are a Scorpio or a Safari (Steeriod will surely reply for this thread now

)

Please note that I'm only looking for a 2nd hand vehicle again. Please send in your comments on my thoughts. Also please let me know the current asking price for a 2002-2004 Scorpio.

It will be indeed a lot of heart break to let a OHC VTEC that I chose so lovingly go. I will surely miss the society status (sad but true) that comes in owning a Honda. But I'm more practical than sentimental.

v1p3r · 15th May 2007, 21:06

Safari, anyday!

......

Steeroid · 15th May 2007, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbpscars

(Steeriod will surely reply for this thread now

)

Yeah right, but not for what you think.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbpscars

It will be indeed a lot of heart break to let a OHC VTEC that I chose so lovingly go.

I'll buy your VTEC, thats why! PM me.

Proxima · 15th May 2007, 21:08

2004 Scorpio CRDe should cost around 6.5 Lacs in Chennai.

Will be cheaper in Mumbai (6.2 L) I guess given South India's obsession for diesel cars, MUVs and SUVs in particular.

gbpscars · 15th May 2007, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

I'll buy your VTEC, thats why! PM me.

STEEROID!! you are the first to post?

I will PM you, but I havent even made up my mind yet. This thread is to get me convinced about my thoughts on a Safari / Scorpio.

tsk1979 · 15th May 2007, 21:23

Second hand safari?
I doubt you will find a DICOR in good condition, since its a new vehicle. People wanting to sell of DICOR so soon may be trying to dump lemons.
Older than that you have the TCIC which I presume is seriously underpowered.
You are not doing any off roading, right, so just buy a nice vehicle with good ground clearance.
If you want a SUV then scorpio it is from second hand market.

Moreover you need to tell what do you mean by rural roads.
Roads where you need to engage 4WD, or roads where you just need higher GC?

gbpscars · 15th May 2007, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Moreover you need to tell what do you mean by rural roads. Roads where you need to engage 4WD, or roads where you just need higher GC?

By rural, I mean unformed roads, roads spoilt by monsoons, something that happens to Roha-Murud after 2 months of rains, where I would not think of driving anything more than 20 kmph with my OHC and can instead move at 50 kmph with one of these biggies.

4WD would be a great added advantage as I have good experience using it and I understand it well. But GC and better ride will be my priority.

Do you think there is anyone who can do a transplant of a powerful TATA engine onto a old Safari? Will this be a good option?

finneyp · 15th May 2007, 21:39

Fiat Adventure fits your bill perfectly!
And Fiat Service at Mumbai is decent too!

Go for a Test drive ASAP.....!

gbpscars · 15th May 2007, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by finneyp

Fiat Adventure fits your bill perfectly!
And Fiat Service at Mumbai is decent too!

Go for a Test drive ASAP.....!

Thanks Finneyp, counted in, will check that one too.
On other thoughts, I would like to go Diesel

Proxima · 15th May 2007, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Second hand safari?
I doubt you will find a DICOR in good condition, since its a new vehicle. People wanting to sell of DICOR so soon may be trying to dump lemons.
Older than that you have the TCIC which I presume is seriously underpowered.
You are not doing any off roading, right, so just buy a nice vehicle with good ground clearance.
If you want a SUV then scorpio it is from second hand market.

Moreover you need to tell what do you mean by rural roads.
Roads where you need to engage 4WD, or roads where you just need higher GC?

I beg to differ TSK. If you dont mind staying below 120, the TCIC is a good bet.

I bought mine for 4.5 Lac and it runs like a dream. I will post details of my 04 TCIC shortly. Think about the money you save

Up north, you can get an excellent condition 04 TCIC for 4 Lac, that saves a clean 3.5 Lac over the new DICOR.

Jaggu · 15th May 2007, 21:55

scorpios with new engine will be easier to find compared to safari on second hand market.

gbpscars · 15th May 2007, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proxima

I beg to differ TSK. If you dont mind staying below 120, the TCIC is a good bet.

Proxima, you reflect my thoughts, I'm not speed-crazy too (forget my OHC for now

), but is the TCIC powerful enough to pull you through simultaneously bad and crazily inclined roads in a monsoon?

Jaggu · 15th May 2007, 22:14

why dont you do a test drive of both safari and scorpio through dealers..this will give you an idea of what you are getting into, then deiced which one for the second hand purchase

autoenthusiast · 15th May 2007, 23:28

gbpscars since you intend going for a second hand safari or scorpio, one word of caution, the old model Scorpio is very bumpy behind, not a good idea if you would have family sitting in the back seats. Had leaf springs which they have remediated in the new version out last year. I have not tried the new version of Scorpio with the improved suspension though, had just tried the old version and didn't like the back seats at all.

Godfather · 16th May 2007, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbpscars

Proxima, you reflect my thoughts, I'm not speed-crazy too (forget my OHC for now

), but is the TCIC powerful enough to pull you through simultaneously bad and crazily inclined roads in a monsoon?

yes..the TCIC is powerful enough..but i doubt you will get a well maintained safari..
What is your budget??

Godfather

15th May 2007, 20:51	#1
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	Just realised,... elite sedans are not for me - Now... Safari / Scorpio? hi TBHP-ians, with all due respect to all those who guided me in choosing a OHC VTEC, I'm back again for your opinion. I'm now looking for a ride that is purely practical for my lifestyle: - I love driving only on highways, open roads. - I have other choices to commute to work and in city - Love to drive to rural locations often - Cant afford maintaining 2 vehicles, leave alone the troubles of parking both of them inside my society premises. - My OHC is being used only by my wife to drop my kid to school, just 4 kms away, by me on Sundays to have a pleasant drive, and sometimes we do out of city trips, making sure we stay on good road all the time (The car has done 9000 kms in a year) I have lately realised that I drive my car to the city only on Sundays when the traffic is low, I drive out of the city only on paved roads, try to stick onto petrol bunks that I know or look good enough, am badly disabled in terms of travel to places that have no roads, but are too good to miss. As I'm looking forward to hit the highway more often, and make odd trips to rural areas. The vehicles in my head are a Scorpio or a Safari (Steeriod will surely reply for this thread now ) Please note that I'm only looking for a 2nd hand vehicle again. Please send in your comments on my thoughts. Also please let me know the current asking price for a 2002-2004 Scorpio. It will be indeed a lot of heart break to let a OHC VTEC that I chose so lovingly go. I will surely miss the society status (sad but true) that comes in owning a Honda. But I'm more practical than sentimental. Last edited by gbpscars : 15th May 2007 at 21:01. Reason: edited title
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15th May 2007, 21:06	#2
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,355 Thanked: 7,300 Times View My Garage	Safari, anyday! ......
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15th May 2007, 21:08	#4
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 924 Thanked: 334 Times	2004 Scorpio CRDe should cost around 6.5 Lacs in Chennai. Will be cheaper in Mumbai (6.2 L) I guess given South India's obsession for diesel cars, MUVs and SUVs in particular.
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15th May 2007, 21:23	#6
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,727 Thanked: 23,175 Times View My Garage	Second hand safari? I doubt you will find a DICOR in good condition, since its a new vehicle. People wanting to sell of DICOR so soon may be trying to dump lemons. Older than that you have the TCIC which I presume is seriously underpowered. You are not doing any off roading, right, so just buy a nice vehicle with good ground clearance. If you want a SUV then scorpio it is from second hand market. Moreover you need to tell what do you mean by rural roads. Roads where you need to engage 4WD, or roads where you just need higher GC?
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15th May 2007, 21:39	#8
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,750 Thanked: 379 Times View My Garage	Fiat Adventure fits your bill perfectly! And Fiat Service at Mumbai is decent too! Go for a Test drive ASAP.....!
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15th May 2007, 21:55	#11
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,360 Thanked: 16,828 Times	scorpios with new engine will be easier to find compared to safari on second hand market.
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15th May 2007, 22:14	#13
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,360 Thanked: 16,828 Times	why dont you do a test drive of both safari and scorpio through dealers..this will give you an idea of what you are getting into, then deiced which one for the second hand purchase
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15th May 2007, 23:28	#14
autoenthusiast BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goa Posts: 417 Thanked: 5 Times	gbpscars since you intend going for a second hand safari or scorpio, one word of caution, the old model Scorpio is very bumpy behind, not a good idea if you would have family sitting in the back seats. Had leaf springs which they have remediated in the new version out last year. I have not tried the new version of Scorpio with the improved suspension though, had just tried the old version and didn't like the back seats at all.
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