[darxide]

im very keen on buying an old model ford endeavour like the one shown in the image i've posted here. i want the old type for two reasons, first being that i love the way older model looked as compared to the new shape and secondly due to my limited budget of upto 8.5 lacs. i dont plan to to put the car thru any heavy duty long runs but just as a second car for cruising around occasionally and for short trips outside the city. im confused about what engine configurations did the old endeavour come in. so far ive only heard about the 2.5 liter 113bhp version, were there any other engine options? please share anything about advise & experiences with this model. thanks in advance

[TheARUN]

Hope everything goes well, my 2 pence
- This is an awesome vehicle, the 'gangsta' ride of its time
- Its based on a pick-up truck so the ride is not that good
- FORD parts are atrociously priced
- You should be able to get one for 5 lakhs, bargain hard or search more
- If I remember correctly, it had an automatic version too, priceless that would be

[Honda Monk]

Why don't you look for pajero in this budget, you will get great deals.
Reason for considering pajero or ford
1. As mentioned by arun the cost of spare parts for endy is at premium side
2. Ride quality in ford especially the middle row is too bad and too low(you can look into forum, it has been discussed at many places)
3. A friend had bought the same model Endy last year (dont know exact odo readings) and soon after he had to replace the suspension (with OE only) which costed him almost a lac.
4. Pajero has more road presence
5. Pajero is like the most capable 4x4 in the price range
6. Hasle free ownership with pajero is well know

Saying this honestly I am waiting to accumulate that much amount soon and I will get myself a pre-worshiped pajero without a second thought.
A suggestion to think over as 8.5 ain't a small sum after all.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by darxide

So far ive only heard about the 2.5 liter 113bhp version, were there any other engine options? please share anything about advise & experiences with this model. thanks in advance

This was the only engine option. Also, the Endeavor's reliability is a given but like a few others have said, spares for the older model are on the expensive side you might need to empty your pockets for them, once in a while.

That apart, the vehicle has a long life, will withstand abuse and will bring you home every time.


@Mods: Please move this post to the "What Car/SUV section".

[darxide]

Originally Posted by Honda Monk

Why don't you look for pajero in this budget, you will get great deals.
Reason for considering pajero or ford
1. As mentioned by arun the cost of spare parts for endy is at premium side
2. Ride quality in ford especially the middle row is too bad and too low(you can look into forum, it has been discussed at many places)
3. A friend had bought the same model Endy last year (dont know exact odo readings) and soon after he had to replace the suspension (with OE only) which costed him almost a lac.
4. Pajero has more road presence
5. Pajero is like the most capable 4x4 in the price range
6. Hasle free ownership with pajero is well know

Saying this honestly I am waiting to accumulate that much amount soon and I will get myself a pre-worshiped pajero without a second thought.
A suggestion to think over as 8.5 ain't a small sum after all.

thanks honda monk,
about the endeavour, one lakh for a suspension overhaul??
what year pajero can i get in my budget. i love pajeros too but i thought they were a bit out of reach for me, since ive been looking thru the classifieds all over and have seen many pajeros. but the prices quoted sometimes do not seem right. in what year did pajero come with the new shape, the one with the flared wheel arches. please let me know if you come across some worthy examples.

[Honda Monk]

Originally Posted by darxide

thanks honda monk,
what year pajero can i get in my budget. please let me know if you come across some worthy examples.

You are welcome Tbhpian!
FIrst of all you need to be patient (it would be like an investment rather than expenditure as pajero if maintained good may even live long enough to serve your next gen.)
Well the best way is to first avoid dealers and rather seek your contacts and some friends who are more into this used car stuff or some good mechanic whose costumer may want to sell his car and likes.
This is the best way to get a good maintained vehicle.
On internet the quoted prices are always on higher side and the alluring ones are deceptive.
You can get a 2006/07 model in this price range but dont make a hasty decision (I know once you have decided to buy a good vehicle for you and have the money then waiting is intolerable and the car becomes more irresistible).
I will surely post you if come across any good deal, anyhow I am based in Delhi.

Good Luck to you and we are waiting to read your ownership review!

[MAS]

Originally Posted by darxide

im very keen on buying an old model ford endeavour like the one shown in the image i've posted here.

Engine - the 2.5 liter 113bhp version

Guess you have a habit of listening to your heart.

Go for it. It will not let you down. But with a 8.5 Lakh budget, you can easily get the next generation Endeavour (not the current one). The first generation Endeavour will be old by now and might require constant attention.

[SDP]

A couple of points that you might want to consider:

1. From what I have heard, Pajeros are quite popular with thieves and are relatively easy to steal because of lack of basic security features like engine immobilizer.

2. Ford is here to stay. Can't say the same about Mitsu because of the Hindustan Motors angle.

[Honda Monk]

Originally Posted by SDP

A couple of points that you might want to consider:

1. From what I have heard, Pajeros are quite popular with thieves and are relatively easy to steal because of lack of basic security features like engine immobilizer.
2. Ford is here to stay. Can't say the same about Mitsu because of the Hindustan Motors angle.

1. One can always install aftermarket equipment.
2. This has been the saying since years. Obviously Mitsubishi has plans to stay its a little downside that they have stuck with HM but since he is buying pre-owned car he can rely on some good service station in town and we all know japs are quite easy on pocket and give hassle free ownership. Moreover procuring parts for pajero is no big deal atleast in metros.
I believe peace of mind (after buying a car you want to keep for some longer time) ought to be considered!

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by SDP

1. From what I have heard, Pajeros are quite popular with thieves and are relatively easy to steal because of lack of basic security features like engine immobilizer.

Well, a gear lock, a steering lock and other SMS based security systems can be fitted. That apart, I wouldn't reject a vehicle for its theft prone nature.

Originally Posted by SDP

2. Ford is here to stay. Can't say the same about Mitsu because of the Hindustan Motors angle.

So is Mitsubishi. In fact, their partnership with HM has just been ended and Mitsubishi will now work on its own in India, in an all new way.

Originally Posted by Honda Monk

but since he is buying pre-owned car he can rely on some good service station in town and we all know japs are quite easy on pocket and give hassle free ownership.

The Japs are easy to maintain but Pajero spares are expensive, and since most of them are imported, spending a packet on an overhaul is to be expected. Also, the on-road performance of the Endeavor has always been better than the Pajero.

My two cents: He should buy a newer vehicle, both of them are kind of too long in the tooth now.

[an_and]

Originally Posted by Honda Monk

1. One can always install aftermarket equipment.
2. This has been the saying since years. Obviously Mitsubishi has plans to stay its a little downside that they have stuck with HM but since he is buying pre-owned car he can rely on some good service station in town and we all know japs are quite easy on pocket and give hassle free ownership. Moreover procuring parts for pajero is no big deal atleast in metros.
I believe peace of mind (after buying a car you want to keep for some longer time) ought to be considered!

Well, I was talking to my friend who runs a service station, and he was saying that Pajero parts are extremely difficult to get (this is in Mumbai). He was saying that genuine parts are not available even with the company, and for a bumper he had to wait for six months to get the parts for one of his customers. This guy is based in Mumbai and is very particular about what parts etc go into the vehicles he maintains and this conversation occured when I asked him what will it take to trade my innova for a Pajero. I was surprised by his statements as no where else on this forum have I come across problems in procuring spares for the Pajero.

[the VTEC guy]

@darxide - since you stay in Pune let me put some points that I have experienced while I did some research on Endeavour and Pajero.
1. Old Endeavour as you have shown will be available within your budget. Anything from 5.5 to 7 lacs. They will be close to 80K or 100K km in running. Very few with <60K running. Since you are in Pune also extend your search to Mumbai examples. Mumbai examples will be comparatively cheaper
2. New shape Pajero (SFX) will be hard to find in that budget. Even if you find one it will have running in excess of 125k km. Older models are available at that price and reasonably run (< 100k km). The SFX shapped models you will find at 12.5 to 15 lacs that have run around 60k km

research on sites like carwale.com to get rough idea about market price and then look of mostly individual sellers to get best deal

[Honda Monk]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

So is Mitsubishi. In fact, their partnership with HM has just been ended and Mitsubishi will now work on its own in India, in an all new way.

Is that so!?!

I believe Mitsu. can definitely pull alone now and must be on board drawing plans to increase market share.

Great news!

[Anand123]

Originally Posted by darxide

in what year did pajero come with the new shape, the one with the flared wheel arches.

The facelifted Pajero SFX (with flared wheel arches) was launched in 2008 and its almost impossible to find one in your budget. You can look for a 2006 model Pajero GLX though.

[Honda Monk]

Originally Posted by darxide

what year pajero can i get in my budget.

So what are the updates? which one did you buy?
For the records, I was checking the market just to have an idea of real prices for myself. I called up a well reputed dealer in city and inquired about prices of 2008 model pajero. He told me that a well maintained pajero with around 70-75K on odo will cost near 9 Lacs. One with high odo readings like 100-120K will be available for like 7.5 or 8. That is the trend in Delhi.
I think I can get one soon.