[VW2010]

This means the Hornet 1000 is not going to be priced like how it should when compared to other markets.

Z900 is still difficult to beat in this price segment. Except honda lovers, the CB650 is a hard sell.

Will sell in single digits for a year whereas the 6R will sell more per month.

[saikishor]

Does this come with a regular clutch or E-clutch?

[b16h22]

This sets the tone for the rest of the CBU Honda products to follow. And both the Hornet 750 and 1000 are going to be priced decently if this is a sign of things to come. I guess Honda decided to finally play sensibly in the big bike segment. This pricing might also cause a price correction in the used market for these 650s.

[Turbojc]

Originally Posted by saikishor

Does this come with a regular clutch or E-clutch?

Hi @saikishor, there’s no mention of the e-clutch anywhere on the website, so I believe it comes with a regular clutch.

https://www.hondabigwing.in/cbr650r

https://www.hondabigwing.in/cb650r

[Superquadro]

Better pricing than expected. Maybe we can thank kawasaki for that? As any higher price tag would have made it compete with the 6R. I'm now just hoping that there are enough units to buy unlike the previous one.

[pratik_terni]

Originally Posted by saikishor

Does this come with a regular clutch or E-clutch?

Hello Saikishor, got a call from Bigwing Bangalore and they said that it will be the standard version for India, E-clutch will not be available here.

[whencut86]

This was 7.54 lakhs a few years ago. Now this is 9.99 lakhs without e-clutch and a further price increase for no additional features. The quick shifter is still additional accessory and does not come with the bike. This is still Honda pricing and they have not decently priced it at all. If one is not bothered much about number of cylinders, then the GSX8R is a much better value for money for a mix of daily usage and sports touring.

[hondaxadv750]

Booking The Honda X-ADV 750 2025!!!

The Honda X-ADV 750, a “mutant”, is what I would call it.

The bike was manufactured over three series, 2017-2018, 2018-2020, and 2021-Present. The machine was proposed as a crossover model, like a maxi scooter but with a motorcycle's chassis. Due to its long travel suspension, the motorcycle/scooter was also suitable for light off-road use.

Visually, the bike was characterized by features such as a dual headlight system, a windscreen, a one-piece dual seat with pillion grab rails, a two-into-one exhaust system with an up-swept muffler mounted on the right-hand side, and wire-spoke wheels. The machine was built around a steel diamond frame that housed the suspension system comprised of a 41 mm telescopic fork mounted on the front end and a Pro-Link swingarm coupled to an adjustable shock absorber on the rear.

Its wire-spoke wheels were fitted with a 320 mm wave disc with a dual-piston calliper on the front and a 240 mm wave disc clamped to a single-piston calliper on the rear. In the performance department, the 2017 Honda X-ADV packed a 745cc four-stroke liquid-cooled twin-cylinder engine that delivered an output power of 54 hp at 6,250 rpm and 68 Nm (50 lb-ft) torque at 4,750 rpm. We like breaking moulds. Which is exactly what our X-ADV does. Part adventure motorcycle, part scooter with the best attributes of both, it is the premium urban explorer. And now even more desirable. There’s still a powerful engine to play with but the SUV styling is sharper – and part constructed from sustainable Durabio™ – while new dual LED headlights feature DRL indicators. The screen adjusts easily one handed, the seat’s more comfortable and we’ve updated the DCT for smooth low speed response. And added cruise control for longer journeys. City block? Highway? Off-road trail? The X-ADV does it all. Any day, and every day you like.

Leading the way, a sharp new front fairing exudes premium SUV style while twin LED projector headlights throw broad beams ahead. The indicators are now incorporated into the Daytime Running Lights (DRL), producing a clean and highly visible look, significantly improving visibility and safety for pedestrians and other road users. But with X-ADV function is as important as form; scooter practicalities like storage under the seat (with bright internal light and convenient internal compartment divider), easy-access glovebox up front, step floor and screen which is adjustable in 5-levels, making life on the move a day-to-day pleasure. You expect best in class performance. You’ve got it: 43kW peak power with a heavyweight 69Nm torque at just 4,750rpm. Throttle by Wire control and four default riding modes – STANDARD, SPORT, RAIN and GRAVEL – cover the urban to dirt tracks, and everything in between, plus you can go fully custom. Honda Selectable Torque Control is newly optimised for smoother traction management in RAIN and GRAVEL mode. And, just like the new CRF1100L Africa Twin, the Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) has been superbly updated to enhance start/stop and low-speed feel, with the new cruise control perfectly in sync.


From urban to off-road, the X-ADV’s agile chassis handles impeccably. It starts with the strength of a tubular steel diamond-style mainframe, and the bump absorbing abilities of long stroke USD forks (153mm/130mm front and rear) and Pro-Link rear shock. Then builds in an upright riding position, for superb all-round visibility and control. Seat height is 820mm and the seat itself, now with 10% more urethane foam, is comfortable and contoured for easy ground reach. The finishing touch? Motorcycle levels of grip from the 17/15-inch front and rear wheel combination, wearing 120/70-17 and 160/60-15 tyres.

Research before Booking!
I spent a good year and more doing research on this adventure touring scooter before I decided to make my booking. I must warn those who are keen on buying this “mutant”, that the accessories shown in the videos and marketing material are all extras. So, be ready to shell out a handsome amount if you want Honda genuine accessories. Just to give you an idea, your touring pack + the adventure pack + style pack will cost you about 18-25% the value of the vehicle. When you do the research, you will understand that if you get one pack, you will need the other.

Booking and Formalities
I did keep in touch with someone from Honda Big Wing for the past one year, however, he was unable to help. With my constant research and calling I was finally directed to Honda Big Wing Topline, Bangalore. This, I was informed, is the only center that is accepting limited bookings for the Honda CB1000 Hornet, CBR650, CBR650RR, CB750 and X-ADV 750. These Units will be brought into the country as CBU and as we all are aware, costs will be higher.
I did have a very pleasant experience at the showroom. They were happy to accept the booking for an amount of INR25,000/-. I was also informed that when the shipping order will be placed, I, will be informed.
All formalities that are involved in booking any vehicle was carried out in a professional way. If any of you are interested in making any bookings for the above-mentioned models, do contact the said dealer. I am attaching receipts of the booking that I have made. I just can’t wait to get the “mutant” in my possession!!!

Happy Riding!!

[Santy19]

Owing to our regulations, taxes and push for "Make in India", this is the best price Honda can offer for something that is complete CBU.

In India, any imported vehicle under $40000 attract a 70% import duty

Honda CB650R which made in Thailand and Japan will come in as CBU like its previous model years, so lets compare prices in 4 countries i.e India, UK, Japan and Thailand

Prices for Honda CB650r are as follows -

Japan - 1,034,000 yen which converts to 570612.69 INR, owing to domestic brand this is the best price. It will cost the same in India if it was made in India with 100% localization. link

Thailand - ฿305,000 which converts to 761605.74 INR, this is made in Thailand bike with some key components from Japan. ex factory price would be less than this.Link

UK- £7,829 which converts to 831271.48 INR, this is the price of made in Thailand bike sold in UK which attracts 14% duty and 20% VAT of all imported bikes. Link

India - INR 9.20 Lacs, for a bike imported from Thailand.

Now for some Calculations-

Lets assume ex- factory price is 5.70 lacs as its the case in Japan and 7.60 lacs is the marked up price as its the case in Thailand.

For India price - 70% duty on ex factory price i.e yen 1,034,000 is yen 7238000 and which adds to make the final value of yen 1772000 i.e INR 979533.43 approx INR 9.80 lacs.

Now add logistics and myraid of other factors which im not accounting for.

Im really impressed that they manged to keep it under 10lacs, I dont know the intricacies of this whole process but the current prices makes sense.

For a lay man who would be buying this for 9.20 lacs INR with on road prices touching 11.5 lacs INR, Government would take 100% of the ex factory price, 5.70 lacs ex factory vs 11.40 lacs on road.

Its not these foreign brands but our exorbitant taxes which are to be blamed

[hondaxadv750]

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Originally Posted by Santy19

Owing to our regulations, taxes and push for "Make in India", this is the best price Honda can offer for something that is complete CBU.

I completely agree to the figures that you mentioned. And it's not really something that we bikers or motor enthusiasts like. But that's just how our government works and if we motor-heads want to get something that is not in the market then we have to bow down to our government and get our work done.

[Captain Slow]

Originally Posted by Santy19

Owing to our regulations, taxes and push for "Make in India", this is the best price Honda can offer for something that is complete CBU.

Could you do the same calculations for Kawasaki? The Kawasaki z900 sells for Thailand - ฿413,100. Which Translates to INR 1,032,190.17

Here in India its sold for INR 9.38 Lakhs Ex showroom. This is also a CBU bike. Just wondering how Kawasaki priced this bike so well?

If I am not mistaken, then Thailand and India have a Free Trade agreement? I'm sure Honda could have priced this better, but hey we all know Honda India very well don't we!

[Santy19]

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

Could you do the same calculations for Kawasaki? The Kawasaki z900 sells for Thailand - ฿413,100. Which Translates to INR 1,032,190.17

Here in India its sold for INR 9.38 Lakhs Ex showroom. This is also a CBU bike. Just wondering how Kawasaki priced this bike so well?

If I am not mistaken, then Thailand and India have a Free Trade agreement? I'm sure Honda could have priced this better, but hey we all know Honda India very well don't we!

Well a free trade agreement doesn’t mean we can avoid duties. Cost of importing any goods is based on 3 factors i.e goods, freight and insurance; and after landing here, duties are applied on the goods part.

I don’t know on which part Kawasaki is saving on but they have priced Z900 very well. I’m saying Z900 because its a complete outlier and its a BIKE THING and not a COMPANY THING because Kawasaki themselves have priced the KLX230 at 3.30 lacs INR, despite KLX being a CKD.

Pricing of Z900 is a case study in itself, with similar examples few and far in between. When CB650R price is compared with any other middle weight parallel twins or triples it feels fair IMO.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Santy19

Its not these foreign brands but our exorbitant taxes which are to be blamed

Interestingly the same logic doesnt seem to apply to other brands but Honda - the competition was called overpriced in their respective threads

For example - the UK prices are as follows:

CBR 650R 2024 - £8595
Daytona 660 - £8595
Suzuki GSX 8R - £8,999

Compared to Indian prices:

CBR 650R 2024 - Rs 9,99,000/-
Daytona 660 - Rs 9,73,000/-
Suzuki GSX 8R - Rs 9,25,000/-

Honda is still the most expensive to price their bike in the segment. Just that they usually keep such a heavy premium, that a small premium seems totally surprising to all of us

PS: The GSX-8R is a total steal - going by the pricing and the reviews worldwide, many of which rate the bike well above the CBR.

[Captain Slow]

Originally Posted by Santy19

Well a free trade agreement doesn’t mean we can avoid duties.
And im saying Z900 coz its an complete outlier and its a BIKE THING and not a COMPANY THING because Kawasaki themselves have priced the KLX230 at 3.30lacs INR, even after klx being a CKD.

Well even the KLX 230 is priced at - Thailand - ฿139,000.00. Which roughly translates to 347,259.79 Indian Rupees!!

This is still cheaper than what the Indian ex-showroom is at - INR ₹3,30,000.00.

What about the customs duty for CKD?
And yet Kawasaki India still makes a profit from this! I'm very sure Honda India can match or even beat this pricing if they wanted to! But hey this is Honda India!

So in response to your post saying that the CB is priced well India. How did you come to this conclusion?

[b16h22]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

PS: The GSX-8R is a total steal - going by the pricing and the reviews worldwide, many of which rate the bike well above the CBR.

Can be the greatest motorcycle ever made but the Indian crowd associate the sports bike experience with higher number of cylinders. These bikes maybe middleweight sports bikes/sports tourers in more developed markets. These are bought as an affordable alternatives to the bigger 1000 supersports here. Ours isn't mature enough to understand the nuances of cylinder configurations, crank angles etc. Plus Suzuki has so far done zero promotion on the GSX8R many months after the launch and it almost feels like they don't care to sell it. Haven't came across any significant review from a major media outlet yet.

The Honda on the other hand has the early bird advantage with the 650R line going back to the 650F. They don't even need to market it. They just needed to price it sanely which was a major ask considering their track record but they did. Plus the Triumph has the Daytona brand and triple soundtrack to lean on despite being a watered down product based on the trident. Both scores over the GSX in the poser value. In terms of style, brand value and soundtrack. Big bikes are often not bought with head.