[ManneAtWheelz]

The Tiger Sport 660’s 3-cylinder engine delivers Triumph’s distinctive triple character with a crisp, raspy soundtrack and perfect balance of low-down torque and class-leading power.

https://youtu.be/-gs1HnOlGsM

The new perfect all-round middleweight adventure sports motorcycle, Tiger Sport 660 is available at an introductory price of INR 8,95,000 Ex-Showroom Pan India.


Here's the new #TigerSport660 in numbers:

• 660 CC Engine
• 81 PS Peak Power
• 64 NM Peak Torque
• 16,000 Kms Service Interval
• 40+ Accessories
• 2 Riding Modes

New Tiger Sport 660 is available in 3 contemporary colours - Sophisticated Lucerne Blue & Sapphire Black, more subtle & minimalist Graphite with Sapphire Black, or the really striking & more dynamic Korosi Red & Graphite with distinctive new sporty graphics.







Source: Triumph official

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Triumph Tiger Sport 660 launched at 8.95 lakhs

Some of the spec mentioned for India -
81ps@10,250rpm
64Nm@6250rpm
Michelin Road 5 tyres
Showa Suspension
Two riding modes - Road and Rain.

2 years/ unlimited kms warranty
16,000kms service interval

Prices of competition -

Kawasaki Versys 650 - 7.15 lakhs
Suzuki VStrom 650 XT - 8.84 lakhs

Launch Videos -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLgZyk8CrvQ

[AtheK]

Too steep, for something which is probably not even going to be comfortable for the pillion rider. It will sell just like trident probably! What kind of numbers does Vstrom do, what ever numbers it is selling, it will loose majority of it now, Versys don't think will be impacted much.

And the Irony that this is an Introductory price, Congratulations Triumph this is pretty much a DOA product.

[Pd_007]

Err, Bad Pricing IMO. The Trident was launched initially at 6.95lc, now revised to 7.45 lc exshowroom. And the Tiger Sport 660 is launched at an "introductory" price of 8.95lac?!. that's ~1.5lc of a difference for the same engine same performance figures, and the difference in looks is nothing to write home about.. the wheel base is ever so slightly longer, half- faired, with a windshield.

This makes the Tiger 850 Sport a much better prospect (subject to opinion), with the ~2lac difference from the Tiger Sport 660, we get more Torque and Better pillion comfort on offer. Better brakes too.

Well..Was that.. the strategy all along?

[bf1983]

Originally Posted by AtheK

Too steep, for something which is probably not even going to be comfortable for the pillion rider. It will sell just like trident probably! What kind of numbers does Vstrom do, what ever numbers it is selling, it will loose majority of it now, Versys don't think will be impacted much.

And the Irony that this is an Introductory price, Congratulations Triumph this is pretty much a DOA product.

I don't think the Suzuki sales will be impacted as much as it's more off road biased with a bigger 19 front wheel and knobby tyres while this has road biased rubber with 17 inch wheels like the Versys 650.

The Versys 650 does have a comfortable price advantage but that will reduce once the new version launches with traction control.

But yeah an introductory price of 8.95 is a bit much. Makes sense to spend more to get the Tiger 850 once the introductory price is over.

[TheHelix0202]

I remember that the rumoured prices were around 12-14 lakh ex-showroom. So, in that sense, it’s cheaper than expected, but still kind of expensive for what it offers.

Come on, Triumph, I’m sure you could’ve done more than just 2 riding modes that’s present even on a 125!!

[ManneAtWheelz]

Originally Posted by Pd_007

Err, Bad Pricing IMO. The Trident was launched initially at 6.95lc, now revised to 7.45 lc exshowroom. And the Tiger Sport 660 is launched at an "introductory" price of 8.95lac?!. that's ~1.5lc of a difference for the same engine same performance figures, and the difference in looks is nothing to write home about.. the wheel base is ever so slightly longer, half- faired, with a windshield.

This makes the Tiger 850 Sport a much better prospect (subject to opinion), with the ~2lac difference from the Tiger Sport 660, we get more Torque and Better pillion comfort on offer. Better brakes too.

Well..Was that.. the strategy all along?

Few differences which I can see:

• Design
• Tall and transparent visor on the Tiger 660 to aid its touring purpose
• Split headlight
• Tiger Sport 660 has slightly more relaxed ergonomics
• Slightly better instrument console
• More plush ride with increased suspension travel on Tiger Sport 660
• Bigger fuel tank (Tiger Sport 660 gets a 17.2-litre fuel tank against the Trident’s 14-litre unit)

All these differences may or may not justify the price tag but it is all with the independent decision in the end.

Finally I can say, a perfect competitor for Kawasaki Versys 650!

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Pd_007

Err, Bad Pricing IMO. The Trident was launched initially at 6.95lc, now revised to 7.45 lc exshowroom.

While the Trident's revised pricing is still in-line with UK pricing, corrected for inflation - Triumph appears to be charging a 50k premium on the Tiger Sport 660. The tourer should have come in at 8.45ish (£ 8450) in the best case scenario.

That said, will it sell? Personally I think it's priced to sell - considering the advantage it holds over competition.

I won't be ringing the death bell for the Tiger anytime soon. Versys is outdated, even with the upcoming facelift, VStrom is not for everyone and for the purpose that most people use these bikes for (which is regular road-based touring) - this triple looks to be the most fun middleweight on paper at least. I think I'll ride 5 hours to Cochin for a TD!

Calling this pricing "introductory" is probably the biggest joke in all this. As if they have left room for increased prices!

Originally Posted by Pd_007

This makes the Tiger 850 Sport a much better prospect (subject to opinion), with the ~2lac difference from the Tiger Sport 660, we get more Torque and Better pillion comfort on offer. Better brakes too.

At 11.95 lakhs for the Tiger Sport 850 - the difference is 3 lakhs ex-showroom. The onroad difference maybe more in some states when crossing the 10L ex-showroom slab.

[AtheK]

Highly doubt it will sell well, Two up riding on this is a big question mark, pricing in atleast bengaluru is already close to 11.5 On road, as introductory pricing. Expensive Spares and Service, less service center and so many of them already notorious for the kind of service they provide. I hardly see trident on road, this per me will follow the same path.

I will any day look at getting a better purposeful bike in pre owned market then picking this for 11.5 "Introductory" price point. Versys might still look dated even with the new changes, but it is a tested and proven workhorse.

[Axe77]

I think lets wait to see it in the flesh to judge touring comfort. They seem to have some fairly well designed luggage accessories to facilitate touring and depending on how the back seat is designed maybe it won’t be as bad as some fear. I’m putting some pics below which I extracted from the Pune Triumph insta page. (Putting link to the post as well).

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbrhX3Yr...dium=copy_link

I do think the sweet spot ex showroom pricing should have been closer 8.5L give or take and it seems to have stretched about 50k beyond that. The other aspect is that it might be a little more “accessible” to certain riders - seems to have decent low seat options and combined with its naturally lighter or smaller frame than the Versys some may feel more comfortable with the 660 Tiger - of course conversely larger built folks may prefer the Versys for exactly the same reason.

A friend of mine pre-booked his a few weeks ago and he was already beyond the 20 bookings mark (in Mumbai alone). Lets see if there’s a raft of cancellations based on the pricing but somehow I still think it’ll manage to hold its own on sales numbers. The next six months will tell I guess.

[neil.jericho]

Sigh! Im not surprised by this pricing by Triumph India. Predictably, they slotted the Tiger Sport 660 in between the Trident 660 and the Tiger 850.

A few thoughts

• It is clearly between Rs 50K to 75K higher than what the market expected. And that too introductory pricing! If there is a silver lining, at least Triumph India is consistent. They have priced all their recent offerings similarly .....
• On road pricing in Kerala is Rs 11.8 L.
• I predict that by the end of the year, the ex-showroom price is going to be Rs 9.49L. So, on road pricing here will be close to Rs 12.5L then. Ouch!
• One aspect that many potential owners overlook, is the cost of accessorising a big bike. Especially when it comes to protection. Just adding a radiator guard, saddle stays and basic protection will set you back, by an unexpectedly big amount. The Kawasaki Versys 650 has plenty of Indian made accessories that are high on quality and low on price. With new motorcycle launches, you dont get locally manufactured accessories. So when you add basic accessories to the Tiger Sport 660, the price will easily go up into the Rs 12+ L range.
• The competition is really strong. The Honda CB500X, Kawasaki Versys 650 and Suzuki VStrom 650 have all carved out different segments of the market for themselves.
• So who exactly will look at the Tiger Sport 660 ?
  - Someone who wants a sensible tourer that can handle the daily grind? The Honda CB500X is perfect!
  - Someone who wants a sensible tourer, with a plethora of aftermarket accessories and Indian made protection, that can excel on the highways? The Kawasaki Versys is perfect!
  - Someone who wants to tour and do some light offroading? The Suzuki VStrom is perfect!
  So, basically, the target segment is someone who wants to tour and doesnt want a boring twin cylinder motorcycle? More on that, later.
• I feel pillion comfort is going to be a concern. Just looking at the bike in international reviews, I thought that the design of the seat was a little unusual. The international press has called it out too.
• While the Tiger Sport 660 is expensive, the Tiger 850 isnt a straightforward alternative. The Tiger 850 / 900 platform is not a grown up version of the Tiger 800. People who test ride the Tiger Sport 660 and the Tiger 850, back to back, will be puzzled by how different they feel. Three cylindered bikes from the same manufacturer but two completelty different engine characteristics!
• In the first few quarters, I dont think that the Tiger Sport 660 will do badly, sales wise. After that, Triumph dealers will have a tough time selling the Tiger Sport 660. Anyone who has watched Zac Courts' review of the Tiger Sport 660 will see how dangerously close the bike is, to the Kawasaki Versys 650. The Indian market loves value for money bikes. Once the initial enthusiasm fizzles out, Indian buyers will swing back to the upgraded and excellent Versys 650.
• I predict that Tiger Sport 660s will come up in the pre-owned market very quickly.
• Triumph's legacy issues with service center quality is going to keep some buyers away.
• Only two motorcycle related WhatsApp groups that I am on, had any chatter on the Tiger Sport 660. Whatever was discussed, wasnt positive either. These very same motorcycle groups buzz with back and forth discussions when something really exciting gets launched. Triumph should be worried about the apathy towards the Tiger Sport 660.

I do understand other forum members saying that there is a market in India, for a three cylindered tourer, that can take a rider and pillion in absolute comfort. I agree. Its just that I dont think the answer lies in the Tiger Sport 660. No, the perfect Triumph for such requirements is a pre-owned Tiger 800 (pick your version!). It has an incredibly smooth engine. It is very comfortable for both the rider and pillion. Owners typically tend to add high quality accessories, so when you get it in the preowned market, you typically dont have to spend a rupee, to spec it up. And then, you come to the price. Pre-owned Tiger 800s go for anywhere between Rs 7.5 L to Rs 12L, depending on the version, year, mileage and odometer reading. You can easily find a Tiger in the sub Rs 10L range. Also, most of these Tigers will be well out of warranty. Cities like Bangalore and Cochin dont have the best company service centers. So, if you pick a preowned Tiger 800 that is out of warranty, you dont have to worry about taking your bike to the official service center. Many Triumph owners here in Cochin, get their bikes serviced at the same garage where I get all the work done on my bikes. All these owners have stopped going to the company SVC.

Net net, in India, the real competition to the Tiger Sport 660, is the bigger, badder, more all rounded and more affordable Tiger 800. Considering the capabilities of the Tiger 800 and the cost savings involved, I see no reason for people who want a three cylindered tourer, to consider the Tiger Sport 660 over the Tiger 800.

[AtheK]

Very well said and summarized Neil, people seem to be more wowed with Tiger name and Triumph brand, rather then the product itself. I really don't find anything interesting on this bike, just nothing. Between the same brand this is expensive by 1.5 lacs Ex-showroom price from Trident, does it command that kind of premium, only buyers can answer and decide.

You really bring a very valid point of accessories too, surprising that radiator guard is not present for now even as official accessory. The volumes that these two bikes will do put together will not entice any indian accessory maker to invest there time in this. Don't see any panniers too, only twin helmet top box for luggage, which with rack is almost close to 33K. That said like the standard windshield, should do a great job to keep away wind blast.

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

No, the perfect Triumph for such requirements is a pre-owned Tiger 800 (pick your version!). It has an incredibly smooth engine. It is very comfortable for both the rider and pillion. Owners typically tend to add high quality accessories, so when you get it in the preowned market, you typically dont have to spend a rupee, to spec it up. And then, you come to the price. Pre-owned Tiger 800s go for anywhere between Rs 7.5 L to Rs 12L, depending on the version, year, mileage and odometer reading. You can easily find a Tiger in the sub Rs 10L range.
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Considering the capabilities of the Tiger 800 and the cost savings involved, I see no reason for people who want a three cylindered tourer, to consider the Tiger Sport 660 over the Tiger 800.

^^ Superbly put Neil. Coming to my own friend who booked this and was told of a potentially long waiting period. I advised him to check out the Honda 500 instead and also to consider the pre owned Tiger. In my mind, a Tiger 800 is a properly full size adventure bike and the engine is just so incredibly satisfying. You’re unlikely to get the itch to upgrade from the 800 (or 900) as quickly as you might outgrow a 660.

I’m currently toggling miles between a hooligan of a Multistrada 1200 and the Tiger 800 and believe it or not, the Tiger 800 holds its own and has a differently satisfying character from it - each has their own charm. I cant imagine saying I would enjoy these 660 engines as much if it was sharing space with a proper middleweight alternative.

Its much the same like a pre owned street triple comprehensively trumping a Trident.

The only problem is that many first time big bike buyers are very hesitant to go the pre owned way. Its only once you’ve owned a superbike or two that you truly begin to appreciate the value of a pre owned machine.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

A used product always offers a higher segment product at similar pricing - has been the case forever in the history of cars and bikes.

A used Tiger 800 will obviously be better than a new Tiger Sport 660! Don't see it happening any other way, be it Tiger, Versys, Multistrada or GS. Same case with cars too - needless to say.

People who buy used obviously get a steal! A new bike will never win a new/used comparison.

Not everyone does that though - be it due to EMI concerns, fear of getting a lemon, or just to make the purchase special. This is especially true in the entry level segments where a lot of people tend to make their first big bike purchase.

[RT13]

At 12-13L on road in the likes of our Bangalore, this seems insanely overpriced. I’m sure it’ll sell a bit initially but imo most of the takers will be guys relatively new to lifestyle riding, who are purely focused on brand and have some financing plans. Hard-nosed bikers who are upgrading will have a hard time justifying this over a new Versys or even a V Strom which are legends in their own rights. I won’t even go to the used market which’ll have a plethora of options in that price range. Definitely won’t be a volume driver in the long run. Odd strategy all told for their entry level engine offering.