[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by SnS_12

Yes, definitely an overkill and if one plans to put in many kms right from day one then they are looking at tyre expense sooner than later.

But on a positive side one can thank Triumph for offering best rubber straight from factory so the user can determine for his usage pattern and riding style what balance one should workout between grip and longevity.

Also, it tells a lot about the positioning of the bike defending on the tyre offered from factory in this model looks like Triumph wants its riders to carry the SPEED even in tight corners.

You are completely right about owners getting some of the best tires straight off the showroom floors. It just seems to be a mismatch to what the bike is supposed to do.

If I wanted a performance 1000cc + motorcycle from Triumph, the Speed Triple RS already exists in the lineup. And if I want a classic 1000cc + motorcycle from Triumph, there is the T120. The Speed Twin was a perfect bridge between the two but now its positioning is more towards the Speed Triple RS and is a bit muddled.

Ideally, they should have thrown on more appropriate (read less expensive) tires and brakes and kept the price the same as the outgoing model.

The Metzeler Racetec RR comes in the K1, K2 or K3 variants. As per the Metzeler website, K1 = Soft, K2 = Medium, K3 = Hard.

The Speed Triple RS gets the Metzeler Racetec RR K3 tires. I couldnt find a mention of whether the Speed Twin gets the K1, K2 or K3, I suspect its the K3 (need to watch all the videos). So probably some economies of scale in play that dictated the unusual tire choice.

[SnS_12]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

Ideally, they should have thrown on more appropriate (read less expensive) tires and brakes and kept the price the same as the outgoing model.

Triumph wanted to better the riding experience from the existing model and hence, the upside down forks instead of standard with bigger 320mm disc instead of 305mm disc with radially mounted calipers instead of standard all this better hardware and the other tweaks come at an additional price of 300 pounds over the outgoing model in the UK, which is a steal for the value added to the product.

So looks like a win win deal for the end customer looking for a good powerful modern classic.

[mpulztrack3r]

Alright I have beeen waiting for this one for a while! So was quite excited for the unveil. Overall sounds like a great package. A mix of interesting and perplexing choices as well to be honest. But apart from the things pointed out in the posts earlier, I find the design choices to be complete mysteries. 1. Got rid of the fantastic looking black pipes with outward curved chrome end caps. The end caps are now black plastic!? Atleast a (fake?) carbon fibre look would have been acceptable. 2. Paint schemes! even street twins get better colour options. Heck even RE Interceptor is kicking ass several levels above here. Korosi red with black was a classic. Its been replaced with red with grey!? My eyes hurt

[imranstael]

Originally Posted by mpulztrack3r

Paint schemes! even street twins get better colour options. Heck even RE Interceptor is kicking ass several levels above here. Korosi red with black was a classic. Its been replaced with red with grey!? My eyes hurt

Yes I completely agree. The bike has been improved in every way but they downgraded the aesthetics. I can't believe they changed the paint schemes to look so drab considering how phenomenal the original paint schemes were.

What a tragedy!

[Venkatesh]

Just after a few days of global unveil the New Triumph Speed Twin is now listed on Indian website.



The new Speed Twin will be sold in the Indian market in a single variant and three colour options including Jet Black, Red Hopper, and Matte Storm Grey.

Source

[sidbp]

Originally Posted by imranstael

Yes I completely agree. The bike has been improved in every way but they downgraded the aesthetics. I can't believe they changed the paint schemes to look so drab considering how phenomenal the original paint schemes were.

What a tragedy!

Spot on! The original color scheme was just perfect for this pocket rocket.
One thing though they keep mentioning LED DRL up front with led indicators and tail lamp. Why have they chosen to keep a noral headlamp unit? It would not have cost them more to make a full LED setup and up the style quotient further. If a trident can get an all LED setup, then this should have as well.

[shivasuma]

I have pre-booked a jet black speed twin by paying 50K. The salesman said the expected launch date is Aug/Sep but I think it will be sooner. The entire amount is refundable (have it as proof with my conversations with him). He mentioned that he had about 7-8 bookings already. I am 6'1" and hope the bike isn't too small for me. I will check the bike out once it is launched here. I was torn between this and the Versys 1100, but the triumph won due to the fact that it had a nostalgia factor (my dad owned one in 1960s) and I don't intend to tour a lot. Will mostly be for weekend rides.

[mpulztrack3r]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

I have pre-booked a jet black speed twin by paying 50K. The salesman said the expected launch date is Aug/Sep but I think it will be sooner. The entire amount is refundable (have it as proof with my conversations with him). He mentioned that he had about 7-8 bookings already. I am 6'1" and hope the bike isn't too small for me. I will check the bike out once it is launched here. I was torn between this and the Versys 1100, but the triumph won due to the fact that it had a nostalgia factor (my dad owned one in 1960s) and I don't intend to tour a lot. Will mostly be for weekend rides.

Congrats! I have been considering it too. In my heart I'm still waiting for a used one weirdly
2 questions:
- What are the benefits of pre-booking here? (vs. booking after the launch date is announced)
- Do you mean refundable if the customer decides to cancel the booking?

[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by mpulztrack3r

Congrats! I have been considering it too. In my heart I'm still waiting for a used one weirdly
2 questions:
- What are the benefits of pre-booking here? (vs. booking after the launch date is announced)
- Do you mean refundable if the customer decides to cancel the booking?

Pre-booking, according to the salesman will give me priority, assuming there is demand for the bike. Initially he asked me for 1L but I told him that 50K is what I can pre-book at and also read online that most dealers are accepting the same amount. And yes, it is fully refundable if I don't like the bike.
BTW, he mentioned 14L as the OTR price for the bike which I think, if true, is overpriced by atleast a lakh.

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

I have pre-booked a jet black speed twin by paying 50K. The salesman said the expected launch date is Aug/Sep but I think it will be sooner. The entire amount is refundable (have it as proof with my conversations with him.

Congratulations on your booking Shivasuma! She’s a real classy looker, hope she suits you. Already looking forward to your impressions and hopefully an ownership thread

I would say take the fully refundable 50 thousand rupee pre-booking amount terms in writing (if you haven’t, since you say “in your conversation”) as lots can happen between now and then. The sales person could leave his job or change his stance and you would have an unnecessary headache on your hands if you want to cancel for whatsoever reason. If he has agreed to it, there should be no reason for not giving it in writing.

Cheers

[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Congratulations on your booking Shivasuma! She’s a real classy looker, hope she suits you. Already looking forward to your impressions and hopefully an ownership thread

I would say take the fully refundable 50 thousand rupee pre-booking amount terms in writing (if you haven’t, since you say “in your conversation”) as lots can happen between now and then. The sales person could leave his job or change his stance and you would have an unnecessary headache on your hands if you want to cancel for whatsoever reason. If he has agreed to it, there should be no reason for not giving it in writing.

Cheers

Thanks Cyborg. I have all my conversations with the salesman on Whatsapp (due to lockdown). It's the Keerthi Triumph business number. I guess that should be enough proof. I am torn between the Versys 1100 and Speed Twin(as I mentioned earlier this might win due to nostalgia) and will have a test ride of both and decide. BTW, the salesman has agreed to let go of the handling charges which anyway was illegal, but they do come up with innovative ways to justify it!

[no_fear]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

It's the Keerthi Triumph business number.

I would suggest you get the commitment in writing. Keerthi Triumph has enough horror stories on this forum and from buyers. They are quite well known for turning back on their words.

If the salesman has agreed to waive the handling charges, get it written on letterhead from Keerthi dealership. Do not trust whatsapp messages. I have been down this road with another dealership and suffered in the past.

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

Thanks Cyborg. I have all my conversations with the salesman on Whatsapp (due to lockdown). It's the Keerthi Triumph business number. I guess that should be enough proof. I am torn between the Versys 1100 and Speed Twin(as I mentioned earlier this might win due to nostalgia) and will have a test ride of both and decide. BTW, the salesman has agreed to let go of the handling charges which anyway was illegal, but they do come up with innovative ways to justify it!

I would still suggest getting everything (refund and waiver of handling charges) in writing on their official letterhead. There maybe some grey area due to What’s App but no company on earth will ever try to deny or contest something which appears on their official letterhead. I would politely approach them and get the letter in my possession.

In the bike universe your choices would be like chalk and cheese. I would suggest take test rides of both one after the other on the same day and repeat the sequence after a week. Think about how you felt with them, share your thoughts/feelings on the bikes with us (we live for such discussions) and don’t be hasty with your decision.

Cheers and all the best.

[shivasuma]

Heard from the sales guy that bikes will be landing in India next month and launch/reveal will happen in August sometime on Triumph India twitter and instagram pages.

[mpulztrack3r]

Folks who have booked - have you heard from Triumph lately? Any updates on when the Speed Twin is landing in India?