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Old 3rd June 2024, 11:38   #511
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Re: Review: My Yamaha R1 (WGP 50th Anniversary Edition)

Day 3


Day 3 was pretty lazy, it was just a direct shootout back to Bangalore. Started a bit early again to reduce the amount of riding in the sun. So we skipped breakfast at the homestay and decided to have it somewhere along the way. We did not stop much to click photos apart from a few pics here and there and a few at the breakfast stop place.

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The ride through the coffee estate in the morning was bliss, even though the roads were a bit more broken than we would have liked, but on day 3 I realized that the rear tyre of the R1 was fishtailing a bit too often, when I stopped and checked the pressure it was all good, later I realized that the tyre has started to harden a bit compared to the front and was giving a feeling of riding on ice at times. This was not ideal but I aired down the tyre a bit more and carried on , once we hit the highways it was all good because there were hardly any corners to negotiate as compared to the ghats/ plantation areas we had to cover for the first few hundred kms.

Somewhere in between me and Xaos636 stopped for a coffee break while the rest carried on and we agreed on a meetup spot some 40-50kms ahead.

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We stopped at a place for breakfast, the place is called Growers Coffee House, Cheekanahalli, NH-73, between Belur and Mudigere.

Plenty of parking space and spacious interior and great food with lean and hygienic washrooms too. You can read more about the place here

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Then we started our trip back along Hassan highway with a final fuel stop and back/hydration break for us too.

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Finally, we made it to NICE road and that was the final stop point at which all of us went our separate ways, here is a parting shot of the R1, Blade, and the V2. The other 2 had already taken a different exit a few km back and I missed taking a photo there.

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Another hour or so and I was back home.

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That brings an end to the 3 days of a memorable ride, we all collectively agreed doing the same route in the monsoons while being monsoon-ready is a must.

As usual, winding up this post with the customary ODO and Trip meter shot.

The trip meter at the end of day 3
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ODO
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@krishnaprasadgg spotted your R1 at Highlander today!
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Hi SVS_23, sorry for the really late reply, somehow the post notification for this got missed by me. Finding this today while making a few new posts.

Yup, the bike was there for a specific issue diagnosis and since I was out of station for a while, the bike was being stored there for a few days. Details on the issue will be detailed in a future post.

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Lovely travelogue to begin the week, Krishna!
Thanks for sharing all those breathtaking pictures of the mean machines in the midst of nature and the inviting twisties, with engaging narration to boot. I particularly loved the pictures of the supersport bikes lazing around in Bhadra reservoir backwater meadows with the cattle in the background, such nice color and scene contrasts .

Looking forward to your next updates and trips as always!
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Hi SVS_23, sorry for the really late reply, somehow the post notification for this got missed by me. Finding this today while making a few new posts.
That's alright! I have to say the bike looks much bigger in person compared to the 2015 and later models. How was it like to ride it on the twisties?

PS - This particular colour scheme is a personal favourite of mine!

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Lovely travelogue to begin the week, Krishna!
Thanks for sharing all those breathtaking pictures of the mean machines in the midst of nature and the inviting twisties, with engaging narration to boot. I particularly loved the pictures of the supersport bikes lazing around in Bhadra reservoir backwater meadows with the cattle in the background, such nice color and scene contrasts .

Looking forward to your next updates and trips as always!
Thanks for the kind words Karthik

Yeah the reservoir meadows photos were so much fun to see the results, funnily enough, we spent most time finding small rocks onto which we could put on the side stand because the surface was too soft/mushy. Got a lot of calories burnt supporting the bike's weights and walking around finding the rocks too.

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That's alright! I have to say the bike looks much bigger in person compared to the 2015 and later models. How was it like to ride it on the twisties?

PS - This particular colour scheme is a personal favourite of mine!

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Oh yeah! It's a huge difference, the bike is very responsive for sure, and very precise too, but the newer bikes are just so much much better, its hard to fathom how much better the engineering has gotten until you get the chance to ride them back to back. Its a revelation in itself.

I too love the WGP colors but a special place for the Yamaha blue is always there in my heart.

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I have followed OP's Yamaha R1 thread for a long time on this forum. It warms my heart to see someone share DIY fixes and updates and provide such an exhaustive roster of information on superbike maintenance and systems. Thank you very much sir!
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I have followed OP's Yamaha R1 thread for a long time on this forum. It warms my heart to see someone share DIY fixes and updates and provide such an exhaustive roster of information on superbike maintenance and systems. Thank you very much sir!
Thanks a ton for the kind words Sensible_Speed. Looking forward to keep sharing and adding to this thread.

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Those are some beautiful pictures, Krishna, especially that Bayliss edition Ducati V2. IMHO, you look better on it than the R1
Look forward to reading more engaging posts and seeing more "breathtaking" photos from you.
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Those are some beautiful pictures, Krishna, especially that Bayliss edition Ducati V2. IMHO, you look better on it than the R1
Look forward to reading more engaging posts and seeing more "breathtaking" photos from you.
Thanks for the kind words, I don't think there is a photo of me sitting on the V2 other than my onboard cockpit photo but I'll take a compliment any day any time!
I don't see the chance of owning a Ducati anytime soon, let alone a special edition one. The price range is in a different plane altogether for me. But wishful thinking never hurt anyone, so dreams are still on.

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Since a few weeks of update is pending as quite a bit has happened during this time, let me pick it up from where we left off.

Never a pretty sight to see, Return of the coolant problems?
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Post the ride I had to go back to my hometown for almost 2 months, during which bhpian @wolfy was babysitting the R1. He would take care of weekly running the bike for a bit so that it wasn't sitting idle for 2 months, a few weeks went by and all was going well. But then one fine weekend when Wolfy took the R1 its weekly maintenance spin and came back to his place and switches off and parked the bike and suddenly the R1 started pissing coolant all over the floor through the overflow hose, he immediately calls me to inform me about this and I immediately get flashbacks to a few months back when I had the same issue happen which took the bike out of commission for a few weeks.

That time around it was the radiator cap which was the issue and I was thinking to myself there is no way the radiator cap has gone bad again. So we did the first round of checks, we removed the reservoir cover and checked if the top rubber sealing cap was blown out of the seal and we found that it had not. So it was a clean overflow as opposed to what had happened last time where the pressure in the cooling system was so high that it used to blow the top cap of the reservoir cover and flow directly from the top of the expansion tank.

We filled in a bit of engine ice back into the coolant reservoir and put the cover back on just to see if the coolant would overflow again, @Wolfy took the bike out for a few spins again over the next two days, but we did not face anymore overflow issues this time. Did that mean this was just a one-time incident where when the bike was turned off the temperature spiked and that led the coolant to boil over, well while I did think of that possibility, it didn't sound right, because this has never happened before apart from when the radiator cap had gone bad. So after a few days, we tried it again but this time without fitting the coolant expansion tank cover on, and voila there you have it, even at about 80-90 degree temperature the coolant was boiling over in the expansion tank.

Almost the exact same issue as last time but only that this time around the pressure was never so high that the top cap of the tank was being blown up, instead the rising level of coolant was just overflowing through the overflow line, as designed.

So then the bike was again filled up with a little bit more engine ice and was ridden to Highlander for Karthick to run a diagnostic check as to what might be the issue.

The R1 being nursed back to health at Highlander
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So once there Karthick checked the radiator cap again and it was found to be in perfect working order then he tried recreating the issue and it was easy enough to recreate, so then we thought maybe it was a big air bubble in the system, but then again post the last proper bleeding of the coolant the bike ran for 3k km without any issues and that included a multi-day trip in peak summers and the bike never dripped coolant at all, how can suddenly a big air bubble form in the system, but regardless, since we had lost a lot of coolants anyways, Karthick suggested it was a better idea to refill the radiator with coolant and the system was burped properly again and to try and recreate the issue again to just eliminate the possibility, this was done and as expected it happened again, which meant this was not air in the system issue.

So our next suspects were the coolant temp sensor and the thermostat. During this whole fiasco, the bike never ran hot, the fans kicked in at the right temperature, and the bike was being cooled down properly, operating temps never exceeded 110-112 degrees, and when it did the second fan kicked in and the temp reduced almost instantly back to 90-98 range which has always been the case throughout the years and even now the bike behaved the same, now not taking into consideration what the coolant gauge showed the feel of the heat that you get while on the bike in traffic was also exactly the same, very much manageable and the heat was never overwhelming, so taking into consideration both these points we decided to look into the thermostat as the possible culprit.

So we set about with another test to check out the thermostat issue, the theory was that the thermostat is either stuck closed or is able to open up only partially. So the shop manual was consulted and as per the manual the thermostat should start to open up when the coolant temp hits 71 degrees and should fully open at 85 degrees, and the valve lift should be at 8mm when fully open.

Shop manual to the rescue yet again!
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Now things were starting to fall in place the coolant boiling issue was being noticed above 80 degrees, so to test this what we did is we replaced the Radiator cap from the OEM specified 1.1 bar to 1.4 bar with a similar size radiator cap to attain a perfect seating and as expected the whole issue just went away.

So what does this tell us or allow us to assume with reasonable credibility is that it is indeed a thermostat issue, since both the radiator caps were in working condition, and further eliminates the chance of the thermostat being stuck fully close because in that case the pressure should increase much faster and surpass 1.4 bar and the coolant boiling and top cap of the expansion tank blowing should have happened because the pressure in the system would exceed the pressure for which the radiator cap was rated for.

This allows us to assume that the thermostat is opening only to a limited capacity which is causing the pressure in the system to increase as free flow of coolant is not being achieved into the radiator but as the radiator fans are running and functioning properly it is able to cool the coolant enough to not raise the pressure in the system enough to cause the coolant to boil over expand and cause a rise in the expansion tank which would lead to overflow of the coolant.

So why do I say all this with an asterisk of "assumption", well, it would be as easy as removing the thermostat dunking it in a tumbler of water with a thermometer, and heating the water to observe the thermostat valve opening when it hits 71 and observe if it is attaining an 8mm valve lift or at 85 degrees, well the issue is, doing this would mean another waste of 2L or more of engine ice and engine ice doesn't come cheap and I did not want to do this without having a brand new replacement thermostat with me in hand. So an order for the thermostat was placed and after a bit of discussion with Karthick and multiple experienced mechs, it was decided that since the bike wasn't overheating(not overflowing) at any point before or after the 1.1 to 1.4 bar cap it was safe enough to run the 1.4 bar cap till the new thermostat was to reach us.

While I fully agree this is a band-aid fix and not a proper fix and while I am not comfortable running a higher spec(failure point) radiator cap than what OEM suggests, I am not willing to put the bike out of commission till I have the replacement parts and moreover, this is where the samco hoses come to the rescue, these pipes are rated for much much higher pressure that was it is being subjected to and I am pretty sure if I had not changed to the Samco hoses I would have had busted/exploded radiator hoses as opposed to simple and pretty harmless coolant overflow scenarios.

By this time, I had reached back to Bangalore and set about doing some thorough stress tests for the temp fix that we had done to gain confidence that the bike would run properly, for which I rode the bike purposefully () through peak hour bangalore traffic both in the morning and afternoon heat and for good measure some weekend ride 200kms roundtrips and luckily not once did the coolant boil over(tests were done without fixing the expansion tank cover so that boiling of coolant could be easily noticed) or overflow.

Here she is at her usual watering holes, gulping down the good stuff, XP100
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During all this, the bike rolled over to 43,000 km on the odo too.


Yay! 43k
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Weird how in the recent posts the ODO milestones have the lesser weightage, . I sincerely hope this trend doesn't continue.

Made the most out of the city torture test by catching up with a few friends after months of being away.

Meeting a friend who owns this gorgeous Panigale V4S with the speciale sticker kit
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Some good coffee always makes catching up with friends much more fun
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For the highway ride, I tagged along with bhpian @neil.jericho, he was out and about to finish the running-in of his brand-new Duke 390 and I tagged along.

A quick 200kms ride with @neil.jericho
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The ride was smooth and even free for both of us, which included early morning highway runs heavy south Indian breakfast polling, and a relaxing lazy ride back that we ended up taking only 2 pics, and that too just before saying our goodbyes for the day.

So post the stress test which altogether was about 300ish km I went back to Karthick to evaluate how the test rides went, I noticed that the black plastic trim piece that sits just below the tank on the left side of the tank had its front clip popped out, and I just went to pop it in like I had done a few times before over the years and but instead of the reassuring click that I usually hear the part just altogether came off the bike and was in my hands.

Well, that was not expected
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Dumbfounded of what just happened I take a closer look and the inevitable has happened, the mounting hole for the trim piece had broken clean off.

This was not a surprise, the eagle-eyed readers would have noticed in the pics dating years back the mounting hole for the trims(both left and right) had a small crack in them from the time I got the bike and the screw that held it in place also had stripped heads(also something I inherited).

Have a look, this is the still unbroken right side panel, but the cracks and stripped screw is clearly visible
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But since it was just a trim piece I did not want to do anything about it and was careful around it whenever the panels were removed for general services and took good care to handle the stripped screws too as getting the replacement parts for the same was a monumental failure through Yamaha India and getting it directly imported was just too expensive with each side costing around $110 or so and with shipping and customs it made no sense.

How it looked without the side panel on
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Anyway, long story short, with enough amount of time and heat cycles and pressing on the panel with your knees the left side panel gave out. This happened right in front of Karthick while I was talking to him, so he promptly went in and brought the irrefutable hero tools of all jugaad fixes superglue and double-sided gorilla tape and got to work.

When the superglue and double-sided tape come out you know it is serious
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The broken piece was put together with superglue and the gorilla tape was applied to hold it in place, again as a temporary measure, wow, this post is filled with jugaads, but circumstances are such, can't do anything about it.

Respite for now!
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So as soon as I got back home I placed an order for the side panels again, but this time through a different source, hopefully, I'll have better luck this time.

Anyway, now that that is also taken care of I was a bit relieved but I wanted to do one more round of testing just for my own sake, but I also had to go back to my hometown for a short while which I could not avoid thankfully this time Xaos636 was free and volunteered to do the tests while I was out of town. Things should be pretty smooth right? Well, that's where I was wrong, now we have a new problem pop up and this time to add some spice to the mix, the new problem is of the electrical nature.

Yay! Good fun right? What's life without some extra spice to keep things interesting?

Will post about this in detail in the next post. Until then,

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Picking up from the last post. So I wanted some more testing to be done but I had to be out of town on some personal work fortunately Xaos636 was free and he took on the task of stress testing the bike once more through similar conditions as last time. The in-city tests went all good and so did the highway test, but this time a new issue crept up.

During the final leg of the highway ride he had stopped for a break, until the ignition was on everything was good, but as soon as he cranked the bike the right side indicator lamp on the dashboard turned on was hyper-flashing at a rate as if it was staying on continuously.


This was weird and unusual, so he did not think much of it and toggled the key on and off and the issue went away, once home he called me to let me know about this and we chalked it to some random electrical hiccup and since it went away didn't think much of it. But the same afternoon curiosity got the better of us and went to investigate.

The right indicator just stays on and hyperflashes
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The issue came back again, so turned on the ignition and all was good, cranked the bike up, and the right side indicator hyperflashed on the meter, but while this was happening the front and rear right side indicators were also on and hyper flashing. Still, the light output is pretty dim than usual.

It is to be noted that while this is happening the indicator stalk position is neutral, and the right side indicator is not been turned on manually if I move the indicator slider to the right nothing new happens, it just stays on as it was before, but if I move the slider to the left to activate the left indicator, the left indicator works perfectly fine, but during this the right side indicators are still hyper-flashing both on the Dash and the front and rear right indicators.

Next, It was noted that if we press the hazard switch the meter shows both the left and right indicator lights to be flashing in unison at the right rate, as if nothing was wrong to begin with, and the rear indicators flash properly at the same time and at the correct intervals, but the front indicators while they do flash correctly for the right duration they are not flashing in unison, the are now flashing in turns, left flashes then right then left and so on. Almost like the emergency vehicles or safety car types. Forgot to record this part in the video.

During this, it was also found that when this happens the headlights do not work at all while the DRL works just fine.

Why I say "when this happens" is that up until now this issue since the first occurrence has been not happening all the time, with a few on/off key toggles and it used to go away. but after 1-2 more days of testing it started happening all the time.

So it was almost certain there was something wrong with the wiring because it couldn't be a relay issue if it was then both indicators would be affected as there was only one relay for the indicator system, we ruled out the headlight relay issue because somehow this issue was connected between the indicator and the headlight because when the issue happens the headlight doesn't work and when the issue isn't there the headlight and indicators both are working perfectly fine. So it was decided that once I was back in Bangalore I'd take it down to Karthik at Highlander and try and investigate this electrical gremlin in a peaceful way because diagnosing anything electrical is a potentially time-consuming affair. So I called ahead and booked an appointment for troubleshooting the issue, a few days later I was back in town, went and collected the bike from Xaos636's place, and sure enough the issue was happening every time now, I had a 1-1.5 hrs trip back to highlander in peak traffic during which twice the issue just went away on its own and the indicator stopped hyper-flashing and the headlight turned on and a few minutes later fell back to the same issue, this happened twice.

Once at Highlander, we started by removing the right side fairing of the bike as the headlight wiring look is situated there, Almost immediately we spotted what could be the potential issue, so this predates to late 2019 to early 2020 when I had got the bike and the first checkup was being done, we had noticed there was a green wire that was jumped between the make and female end of a connector on the right side of the bike when I had enquired with the previous owner and the shop that used to maintain the bike before it was told that back when the bike was serviced at Yamaha cochin they have done this because one of the pin in the connector wasn't working/ making proper contact so they had jumped the wire, and since it was something related to the DRL light we didn't worry much about it(first mistake). Since it was a wiring related stuff and since the bike was running fine at that point we decided not to mess around with it and find out.

Headlight harness 1, all seems good, no corrosion found
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Headlight harness 2 , notice the green jump wire. But the leads on the female end seems fine on inspection
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So since now we are here and we are having an issue we thought, let's anyways look at it too because what if it's related? Might catch a lucky break. So first line of business was removing the jump wire and to our surprise almost as soon as we touched the wire it just came off, overtime the number of heat cycles in the general area has not been too kind to the wire and the copper strands had started to break off and the wire was just hanging on on the merit of the insulation tape that was used to seal the connection. we removed the tape and inspected the connector.

The jump wire/offender in this case
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Reffered the shop manual and found that the connector we were looking at was part of the headlight harness, color matched the wires to the connector type, and following the wire across the wiring diagram found that the red/yellow wire onto which the jump wire was attached to was actually the headlight wire that comes from the fuse box.

Notice the Table marked "A" on the rightmost section and the connector named "Wire Harness" is the connector in question, you can see the color coding on the wires matches the one on the connector.
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So we follow Loom A with the Red/Yellow wire and it goes from connector 94- 103
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94 being a Headlight relay and 103 being the Headlight fuse
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This was a bingo moment, so maybe we lucked out and found the offender of this particular issue. So to test it out we removed the jump cable, put the connector back on connected the indicator wire to the right-side fairing, turned the bike on, and voila! The indicators and headlights are working perfectly fine. So it was actually a loose connection that was causing all the issues.

And then there was light!
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But then one question almost immediately got raised, if everything is working fine then why was there a jump wire across the male-to-female end bypassing the connector, so we went back to the connector and while trying to isolate the red/yellow wire, the wire just came off the connector at the male end.

The red/Yellow wire just came off, notice the area where the insulation has been removed to accommodate a jump wire
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In this pic you can see the locking pin is no longer present on the lead pin
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Surprised we removed the connector and found our issue, that specific connector has been burnt out completely inside the connector and the pin was barely making a contact as it was not able to lock itself to the male connecter end. So why did it work this time, well, when we were inspecting the connector we had made sure there was a solid connection by pressing it in properly and that's why it made a connection.

So now everything made sense, this issue had happened many many years back when Yamaha Cochin was working on the bike and their solution for this was to jump the wire and call it a day, while with just a little bit more care they could have easily just replaced the burnt lead which also had its locking clip that locks in place in the connector break off. A proper fix and connection would have been done which would have negated the need for making a jump connection which is not ideal.

You can see the burnt mark on the female end of the connector too, but the wire is locked in place at the female connector end unlike the make connector end
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So over time the jump connection had failed many many years later and being able to make only the connection randomly was causing this whole issue. A quick forum search and we were also able to find that the headlight connector on the headlight loom burning is a known issue apparently in R1's of this generation (09-14).

A better look at the damaged pin
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Burnt area on the male connector can be seen in this pic
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Now why was the right indicator hyper-flashing in this whole issue, I am not entirely sure, I am not an expert on wiring loom issues but I was willing to investigate further but that would mean opening up the connectors in detail and finding out, but the wiring loom as we had observed had started to become brittle and didn't have much give to it and that means if we messed around with it too much it could cause new issues with potential of wires cracking and breaking the connection, so to avoid that scenario we took the line of "if it ain't broken don't fix it".

As much as I hate not being certain about this, I have come to the terms that the improper connection to the headlight power wire was causing some voltage issues in the loom, and the power surge/fluctuation was happening to the right indicator wire. Making sure a solid connection through the headlight wire seems to be fixing this where both the headlights and the indicators are going back to working as intended.

Anyways, now we tried to fix the issue properly, to which we went on a hunt for a proper locking lead but could not find any in the shop in the right size, so the decision was made that we will have to make do with the jugaad that was already done years before.

Observe the locking clip on this pin, but the size of the lead was thicker than was what used on the R1 from factory so could not use this
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But the jump connection made was done in a much more solid way and insulation tape was used to seal it up and Karthick would place an order for the right size connector lead and once he gets the part we will fix the issue the proper way and be done with it for good.

Back to the jugaad for now.
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During this whole fiasco, we had disconnected a few more connectors just to check their condition and we found one connector that had corrosion inside, and that too was properly corroded but was somehow still making good connections.

Corrosion found
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All cleaned up!
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We gave all the connectors that were accessible a good amount of contact cleaner treatment and silicon paste was used to keep water ingress to the minimum and the connectors were plugged back in.

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Now that the main issue was sorted while putting the bike together we finally decided to address one more thing on the bike which somehow funnily enough we kept forgetting to do for over 4 years, when I bought the bike I noticed that the front 2 clips of the front fairing mask just under the headlight was in it proper place. For the longest time during each service both at Highlander or as DIY I would always think of getting it fixed, and in the end for 4 years straight always forgot to fix it too, to fix it we had to remove 2 other panels under the front mask, so this time while we were buttoning the bike back together we decided to finally do it then and there itself and finally it was done, literally took us less than 2 minutes to do it and it has been pending for over 4 years.

Here is a photo of how it looked before
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And how it looks now.
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It was pretty satisfying to finally see it fixed, ngl.

Anyway, the fix was done and the bike is back to its full glory, here is a video of the bike post the fix.




Settled up the dues at Highlander and went straight to fill her up with a fresh batch of XP100 because I had a ride the very next day.


Gulping down a full tank of XP100
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Cheers
Krishna

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Glad to see the issue is resolved. Loose connections and burning of pins are very common on our bikes. Learnt the hard way but I somehow avoid pressure washes, or even splashing water to clean the bikes. Sukha pocha is the right way.
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Brilliant one Krishna. If I may, and I observe the loom closely, seems like age and heat has taken quite a toll on the connectors and the wire loom. Most of the exposed wires/loom seem to be a bit dried out a lot and can crack just by pressing them hard, definitely age factor. Would strongly recommend a di-electric contact spray on the entire harnesses loop; i.e. cylinder and spade connectors, sockets, male/female connectors, every part of the wiring that has a connector clip to attach to another component, remove them out, and lubing them using di-electric grease would help extend the life and prevent corrosion.

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Glad to see the issue is resolved. Loose connections and burning of pins are very common on our bikes. Learnt the hard way but I somehow avoid pressure washes, or even splashing water to clean the bikes. Sukha pocha is the right way.
I fully agree, I always try to avoid washing the bike often with pressure washers, and I seldom give it outside too, because of the fear of water going places it should not, but staying in an apartment at times becomes a challenge for doing it myself. The damp cloth method is something I always fear will end up causing small scratches which can build up over time, while I don't mind a bit of cosmetic blemishes, doing it like this makes me a bit skeptical. Luckily this issue is not related to water ingress at least, because this specific pin burning is a common issue apparently in this gen R1 models.

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Brilliant one Krishna. If I may, and I observe the loom closely, seems like age and heat has taken quite a toll on the connectors and the wire loom. Most of the exposed wires/loom seem to be a bit dried out a lot and can crack just by pressing them hard, definitely age factor. Would strongly recommend a di-electric contact spray on the entire harnesses loop; i.e. cylinder and spade connectors, sockets, male/female connectors, every part of the wiring that has a connector clip to attach to another component, remove them out, and lubing them using di-electric grease would help extend the life and prevent corrosion.

Good luck!

Cheers!
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Hi Vijay, yup, the loom has hardened over time with innumerable heat cycles and just plain age too. The di-electric spray and every connector cleanup have been slated for a later date because that is something that needs to be done with utmost patience and focus. Being careless or unwantedly hurrying through the process will lead to much more headaches than what I'm ready to gamble for.

So do look out for a post on that one day. Hopefully, I can cover it in detail.

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Picking up from the previous update post. Since the wiring issue was temporarily solved, and having filled up the bike with fuel, we were ready for a short ride over the weekend.

Bhpian @wolfy joined in on his 10R while 2 other close riding buddies joined us, Ajay on his Daytona 675R and Anant on his newly acquired Ninja 4R.

More on the 4R later.

The meetup point was the Parle-G factory toll with no real destination in mind, just that we would ride for a while catch some breakfast hang around chill for a while, and return back early since a few of us had other commitments to take care of mid-day.

Here are some photos from the trip.

ODO meter post at the beginning of the ride
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First short stop to decided the destination of the day's ride
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@wolfy and me were the first to arrive at the breakfast stop
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The beautiful Ninja 4R with the Akra slip-on
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Post breakfast we headed to a nearby location that had a small lake and chilled there for an hour

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Here are a few shots of the 4r

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On the ride back I hopped onto the Daytona 675R. I had never ridden the Daytona before this so I was looking forward to the ride a lot

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ODO meter at the end of the 275 kms long ride
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Now we are all caught up with the updates on the bike.

So until the next update/ride
Cheers
Krishna
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