[Cyborg]

Triumph India has updated their site with the new 2022 colours, Silver Ice and Matt Jet Black. The new Silver Ice is silver with RS written in red on both sides of the tank near the seat and white design/stripes on the fairing and on the rear. The new Matt Jet Black has thin yellow stripes on the sides of the tank, front and rear.

1. Would the RS be available with the new colours immediately or would it take another month or so.

2. Are there any mechanical or other changes to the 2022 models besides the colour scheme.

3. How does this bike get sold here? As in, do they normally have stocks or place an order and it takes X amount of time.

4. How does one check the month/year of import and/or manufacture.

Appreciate if anyone has information on the above or could check with their contacts and share it.

Thank you!

Cheers

[abhi_tjet]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Triumph India has updated their site with the new 2022 colours,
1. Would the RS be available with the new colours immediately or would it take another month or so.

Hey, this is already available. Quite a lot of bikes with new colors have already been delivered to the customers.

2. Are there any mechanical or other changes to the 2022 models besides the colour scheme.

No, just cosmetic changes/color changes.

3. How does this bike get sold here? As in, do they normally have stocks or place an order and it takes X amount of time.

Generally, order is placed after booking. However, they sometimes brings couple of extra stocks. Delivery of those stock can be done earlier.

4. How does one check the month/year of import and/or manufacture.

Go to the Triumph website - owners section - tire selector guide. It has the VIN details identifier.

[Cyborg]

Folks,

What are the differences between a 2019 RS and the new/current 2022 RS? Detailed differences from you experts requested I believe a new one is around 13.5 lacs.

What would be a good/fair price for a 2019 RS in immaculate condition with 106xx kilometres. Owner is asking for 8.75 lacs. It’s a Matt Black direct owner bike with original engine covers, frame sliders, handle bar riser, spools, red bar end finishers and new Metzeler M5 tyres. Since it’s a 2019 model, would it be time for a battery change?

A quick reply would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Cheers

[abhi_tjet]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Folks,
What are the differences between a 2019 RS and the new/current 2022 RS? Since it’s a 2019 model, would it be time for a battery change?
A quick reply would be appreciated.

Thank you.
Cheers

Price looks ok. I hope the bike is in extended warranty. Try to negotiate otherwise.

No need for battery change. However, get the battery health checked. It generally last 3-4 years.
Below are the main differences-
- 2nm increase in Torque.
- Torque spread more even throughout the rev band.
- Full led head lights.
- Different instrument console. Earlier one was better, I suppose.
- Some sticker change.
- BS4 to BS6 transition.

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Folks,

What are the differences between a 2019 RS and the new/current 2022 RS? Detailed differences from you experts requested I believe a new one is around 13.5 lacs.

What would be a good/fair price for a 2019 RS in immaculate condition with 106xx kilometres. Owner is asking for 8.75 lacs. It’s a Matt Black direct owner bike with original engine covers, frame sliders, handle bar riser, spools, red bar end finishers and new Metzeler M5 tyres. Since it’s a 2019 model, would it be time for a battery change?

A quick reply would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Cheers

Is it a known bike within the riding circle? Do people you know/trust refer this bike? Was the bike ridden exclusively by the owner? Have YOU ridden this particular bike yourself, and are happy with it?

If the answer to all these questions is positive, close the deal. The price is okay. There’s no joy to be gained in negotiating for trivial reduction.

[RohanDheman]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

A quick reply would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Cheers

The price seems fair. I sold mine for a wee bit less than that. But i had a LOT of parts on and done a lot more km.

Its a pretty sorted bike and is the same gen as my ex RS (As you can see, I didn't face a single issue) However, I would look out for any flickering of the screen. That's how mine went kaput and without a warning. Get the extended warranty if possible. I had the screen replaced under warranty (90k- EW was for 24k). Also check the clutch - the stock clutch is absolutely brilliant on this. Just FYI- a friend is facing the screen issue with his RS.

My battery was replaced around the 3.5 year mark so keep that in mind. Replace with Yuasa only and do not get anything else. The RS is notorious for behaving erratically with a wrong spec of battery.

The brake pads would need to be changed if not already done and get a full service history. The coolant and the brake fluid should have been replaced once by now.

If you need help with any other issue with respect to the RS, just drop me a PM and I would be happy to chat

Cheers
Rohan

EDIT
as GoBlue says- if the bike feels tight and you connect well with it, you cannot go wrong with this purchase. Do not lose a good bike for a few thousands here and there. And for your peace of mind, just get a service done once you get her home

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by abhi_tjet

Price looks ok. I hope the bike is in extended warranty. Try to negotiate otherwise.

Thank you Abhi!

Originally Posted by GoBlue

Is it a known bike within the riding circle? Do people you know/trust refer this bike? Was the bike ridden exclusively by the owner? Have YOU ridden this particular bike yourself, and are happy with it?

Thank you GoBlue!
This bike came up for sale through a What’s App riding group of which I am a member. His son posted it there.

Spoke to the owner today, turns out he is a close friend of my late first cousin. I may have met him, but don’t know him at all. The bike has been exclusively ridden by him and sometimes by his son. He mentioned he has never ridden her during the rains and is kept in a covered parking. Checked with an unbiased person who knows about this bike, he said it’s a clean piece and well maintained by the owner.

I am seeing the bike tomorrow at 3pm so will share my observations post that. A week ago I rode a friends 2020 RS for 10 minutes but have no real experience on it, will have to see what my gut has to say also.

Originally Posted by RohanDheman

Its a pretty sorted bike and is the same gen as my ex RS (As you can see, I didn't face a single issue) However, I would look out for any flickering of the screen. That's how mine went kaput and without a warning. Get the extended warranty if possible. I had the screen replaced under warranty (90k- EW was for 24k). Also check the clutch - the stock clutch is absolutely brilliant on this. Just FYI- a friend is facing the screen issue with his RS.

My battery was replaced around the 3.5 year mark so keep that in mind. Replace with Yuasa only and do not get anything else. The RS is notorious for behaving erratically with a wrong spec of battery.

The brake pads would need to be changed if not already done and get a full service history. The coolant and the brake fluid should have been replaced once by now.

Thank you Rohan!
Will check when the bike was last serviced and regarding the brake pads, coolant and brake fluid when I see the bike tomorrow. Will ask about the battery health and check the clutch too. What is the standard warranty and the extended warranty period which you bought for 24 thousand.

Screen flickering issue - from what I understand, I need to turn the key and wait for the start sequence to complete, it seemed a little slow on the 2020 RS which I rode. If there is an issue would the screen flicker just in ignition mode or while riding it? Could you please elaborate on this point? Dropping you a PM as well, thank you.

Will report after checking/riding the bike tomorrow.

Cheers

[neil.jericho]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

What would be a good/fair price for a 2019 RS in immaculate condition with 106xx kilometres. Owner is asking for 8.75 lacs. It’s a Matt Black direct owner bike with original engine covers, frame sliders, handle bar riser, spools, red bar end finishers and new Metzeler M5 tyres. Since it’s a 2019 model, would it be time for a battery change?

Cyborg, preowned Street Triple RS bikes are going for around Rs 8.5L these days. That said, considering its got 10K kms and new tires on it (that saves you Rs 27K if you go for a new set of Vredsteins or ~ Rs 44K for anything else), the price quote on this bike is fair for both parties.

The screen of death issue is something that is known to plague the RS bikes in India. Get the extended warranty, if the bike doesnt come with it already. One case that I heard of, happened when the bike was dropped off to the Triumph showroom for an annual service and it came up when the technicians were working on the motorcycle. There were no prior warnings. So play it safe with the extended warranty.

The only thing that I suggest you keep an eye out for with the RS models is the stiff suspension. This only gets mentioned in passing in the media reviews but its a really big deal. Initially, I was very keen on the bike and I was the second person in Bangalore to test ride the bike when it was launched. The first to test ride was TBHPian Shah_ned, who booked the bike and has owned it for a while now. We test rode the bike in the stock suspension settings and it was just too hard for my back to accept. After getting back to the showroom, we asked the team to soften the suspension to the maximum possible setting and then test rode it again. The bikes suspension was perfect for Shah_ned but I couldnt live with it on a daily basis. Hence I dropped the Street Triple RS from my shopping list. Other than the stiff suspension, it is a brilliant bike in my books. The one finger braking is just heavenly.

All the connections with the current owner and validation that the bike is in mint condition, are very good signs for your potential purchase. I went through a similar experience while buying my Street Triple 675. We are all looking forward to seeing some good news in your next update here!

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

The screen of death issue is something that is known to plague the RS bikes in India. Get the extended warranty, if the bike doesnt come with it already. One case that I heard of, happened when the bike was dropped off to the Triumph showroom for an annual service and it came up when the technicians were working on the motorcycle. There were no prior warnings. So play it safe with the extended warranty.

The only thing that I suggest you keep an eye out for with the RS models is the stiff suspension. This only gets mentioned in passing in the media reviews but its a really big deal.

All the connections with the current owner and validation that the bike is in mint condition, are very good signs for your potential purchase. I went through a similar experience while buying my Street Triple 675. We are all looking forward to seeing some good news in your next update here!

Thank you Neil!

I will check on the warranty bit and do the needful if required. The screen of death issue, I like your naming, but am sure no one will like it happening to them Hope for the best with that.

Will test ride this particular bike properly and pay more attention to the suspension, thanks for remembering! I just rode a friends 2020 RS and the suspension seemed ok for me. This was for only ~10-15 minutes though and I was too thrilled to ride a proper bike again after awhile so did not register anything else besides floating on cloud nine. Maybe dropping the rear pressure to 40 rather than 42 will be better as you suggested on the GSX thread recently. So 34F and 40R as you suggested rather than 34F and 42R as per the manual. You mentioned some RS owners have gone lower at the rear, how low would that be with no negative effect on the ride or tyres.

I find the forward lean position with the feet relatively rear set very comfortable rather than the upright position. This bike also has handle bar risers so don’t know how much the forward lean will change though, but I guess it would be quite simple to revert back to stock settings by removing the risers.

Another thing playing on my mind are the changes to the 2021-2022 models versus the 2019 models with better midrange acceleration which may not make any difference to me while the bike is new versus say after six months or getting used to the power delivery. On Triumph forums people are saying the 2022 models are much better and make significantly/noticeably more power in the midrange. Two minds, since I could buy the new one but this one with a ~ 5.5 lacs difference is a wee bit tempting. Any thoughts on this?

Will report back tomorrow with my feelings and decision on this bike.

Cheers

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Another thing playing on my mind are the changes to the 2021-2022 models versus the 2019 models with better midrange acceleration which may not make any difference to me while the bike is new versus say after six months or getting used to the power delivery. On Triumph forums people are saying the 2022 models are much better and make significantly/noticeably more power in the midrange. Two minds, since I could buy the new one but this one with a ~ 5.5 lacs difference is a wee bit tempting. Any thoughts on this?

5.5L for a mere power delivery change is a bit too much. You could always rev your bike up to 7k RPM and then twist the throttle wide open to achieve the same result!

Sharing a big-picture perspective: the Street Triple RS is due for a generation change soon. This generation is (around) 4 years old. It has already been rendered obsolete (feature wise) by technologically advanced competition like the Yamaha MT-09 SP, Ducati Monster 950 and the KTM Duke 890R. All of these get IMU based electronics.

Triumph could very well unveil a new Street Triple line-up in 2022 with a MY23 launch.

Imagine how you’d feel if you spent that additional 5.5L on a new Street Triple RS in 2022, only to see it being replaced by the (anticipated) newer generation in 2023.

PS: this bit about a newer generation is a pure speculation, there’s no news about it yet. However, given that the competition already has advanced electronics and the new Speed Triple 1200 gets them, it’s safe to connect the dots while looking forward.

[neil.jericho]

Cyborg, after replying to you yesterday, I remembered that I had see the advertisement of this bike on the Street Triple WA group. From the pictures, the bike does look to be in mint condition!

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Will test ride this particular bike properly and pay more attention to the suspension, thanks for remembering! I just rode a friends 2020 RS and the suspension seemed ok for me. This was for only ~10-15 minutes though and I was too thrilled to ride a proper bike again after awhile so did not register anything else besides floating on cloud nine. Maybe dropping the rear pressure to 40 rather than 42 will be better as you suggested on the GSX thread recently. So 34F and 40R as you suggested rather than 34F and 42R as per the manual. You mentioned some RS owners have gone lower at the rear, how low would that be with no negative effect on the ride or tyres.

You can also adjust the suspension settings to make the ride quality easy to deal with. To be honest, if it was the first big bike that I had ridden, I would have missed the harsh suspension on the RS and thought that it was something that I could live with. But since I had test ridden quite a few large capacity motorcycles before jumping on the RS, the jarring suspension was a red flag for me. It may not be the same case for you, but just keep an eye out for it. If its no bother, then dont think twice about my posts.

Originally Posted by Cyborg

I find the forward lean position with the feet relatively rear set very comfortable rather than the upright position. This bike also has handle bar risers so don’t know how much the forward lean will change though, but I guess it would be quite simple to revert back to stock settings by removing the risers.

Recently, I installed handle bar risers on my Street Triple 675 and it has made the riding position a lot more comfortable for both everyday riding and highway riding. Comfort wise, it is not a night and day difference but it is a lot better now. However, there was a definite loss in flickability while doing some quick riding in the twisties. Considering the Street Triple is known for being an agile handler, not everyone would want to lose some of its razor sharp handling, at the altar of comfort. For me, my bike, and my riding, its a fair trade off. YMMV.

Originally Posted by Cyborg

Another thing playing on my mind are the changes to the 2021-2022 models versus the 2019 models with better midrange acceleration which may not make any difference to me while the bike is new versus say after six months or getting used to the power delivery. On Triumph forums people are saying the 2022 models are much better and make significantly/noticeably more power in the midrange. Two minds, since I could buy the new one but this one with a ~ 5.5 lacs difference is a wee bit tempting. Any thoughts on this?

Trust me, once you ride the current bike, you will ask yourself whether you really need any more midrange acceleration or if the power delivery on the 2019 bike is brutal enough!

If you have an extra Rs 5.5 L lying around, you can pick up a new KTM Adv 390 and be done with all your motorcycling needs for the next 10 years. Just saying ....

[no_fear]

+1 to what Neil says. I think there is no benefit to spending extra 5.5 lacs to get additional horsepower. If you think the 19 RS is good enough for you, stick with that decision.

The game of more horsepower vs sticker price is never ending and a bottomless money pit. I personally don't think that 2022 RS will be significantly better than 2019 RS. Maybe better electronics and suspension, but is it worth the price delta. I don't think so.

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by GoBlue

This generation is (around) 4 years old. It has already been rendered obsolete (feature wise) by technologically advanced competition like the Yamaha MT-09 SP, Ducati Monster 950 and the KTM Duke 890R. All of these get IMU based electronics.

Triumph could very well unveil a new Street Triple line-up in 2022 with a MY23 launch.

Imagine how you’d feel if you spent that additional 5.5L on a new Street Triple RS in 2022, only to see it being replaced by the (anticipated) newer generation in 2023.

Thank you GoBlue!

The current model was launched in Spain on 11th November, 2019 as MY2020 and launched in India in January, 2020. The earlier model was in 2017, so it seems to be a 3 to maybe 4 year model change timeline. When Triumph was asked about the IMU, they said it was not introduced to keep the pricing in check. However it seems to be the next upgrade progression considering the competition for sure.

Yes, a sure crappy feeling if a new one is bought now and the next generation is launched year end as a MY2023 edition.

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

For me, my bike, and my riding, If you have an extra Rs 5.5 L lying around, you can pick up a new KTM Adv 390 and be done with all your motorcycling needs for the next 10 years. Just saying.

Thank you Neil!

Just managed to convince my Wife for a bike with certain conditions, now if I talk about a second bike, I will have to transfer residence to my garage

Originally Posted by no_fear

+1 to what Neil says. I think there is no benefit to spending extra 5.5 lacs to get additional horsepower. If you think the 19 RS is good enough for you, stick with that decision.

Thank you no_fear, happy to see you jump into the discussion.
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I have made my decision this morning:

This bike surely appears to be in great condition and low run but somehow I just can’t quite connect with it in the pictures/video (matt black) as the one I WANT even though I really, really want to get one. Don’t want to get it and then feel I shouldn’t have in a few days, it’s better to firmly close the door on such things.

It’s not really to do with the power delivery as I mentioned earlier, maybe I am nitpicking or making reasons in my head for not buying this one. I am in no way a good enough rider to exploit the upper reaches of the power band or the bikes full capabilities in any manner or form.

Keeping the above in mind, I just spoke to the owner and informed him I won’t be coming to see the bike. Don’t want to waste his time or unnecessarily ride his bike under false pretexts knowing in my heart I am not buying it.

Even though I didn’t get this one, it’s been heartwarming to read everyone’s genuine help, guidance and way of thinking. I may not have bought this bike, but it’s been a learning experience for me. I hope to give you people good news in the near future with the baby who makes my heart sing.

Cheers

[no_fear]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

I hope to give you people good news in the near future with the baby who makes my heart sing.

Cheers

A bike is the biggest emotional purchase. You have to fall in love with it. There should be no regret, no guilt, no what if. Kudos to you to walk away and admit that this was not the one.

There is always the next one. Happy hunting.

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

I hope to give you people good news in the near future with the baby who makes my heart sing.

There’s a 2015 Suzuki GSX S1000 available with a Pune SBK dealer asking 7.5l.

This costed around 16-17 OTR in 2015 (12.25 ex-showroom), it’s a CBU imported from Japan.

If you’re interested, check out this Instagram page.

Do note that I’m in no way affiliated with this dealer.

Merely sharing a lead as the GSX S1000 is a rare gem of a motorcycle (it comes with a 3-level traction control, power modes and ABS).

If I had the green, would’ve definitely picked it up.