[Shubz]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Cheaper bet is to use diesel to clean chain instead of cleaning solution.

Are the chain's of Bonnie with rubber O rings? I am not sure what would be the effect of diesel on rubber.

[dustom_99]

Originally Posted by Shubz

Are the chain's of Bonnie with rubber O rings? I am not sure what would be the effect of diesel on rubber.

You should have let him try It!

I have been On bullet all my life and diesel has worked for me! Newer O-ring / X-ring just tech crap, no one is intrested!

[ebonho]

Originally Posted by Shubz

Are the chain's of Bonnie with rubber O rings? I am not sure what would be the effect of diesel on rubber.

KTM/Pro-Biking guys use diesel on the KTM and Ninja O-ring chains all the time. Its petrol that is a no-no.

[Shubz]

Originally Posted by ebonho

KTM/Pro-Biking guys use diesel on the KTM and Ninja O-ring chains all the time. Its petrol that is a no-no.

Thanks Doc! I guess Petrol and Kerosene are a big NO NO for use on O-ring based chains, right?

[r_nairtvm]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Cheaper bet is to use diesel to clean chain instead of cleaning solution.

Rider60 (Yash) strongly recommends that over the cleaning solution and even offered to come home and give me a demo in person (planned for tomorrow)

Originally Posted by Shubz

Are the chain's of Bonnie with rubber O rings? I am not sure what would be the effect of diesel on rubber.

Avi,

Experts have advised me in the past, not to go the diesel route.

The Bonney Chain - DID 525 VM2 104 link - has either an 'O' Ring or and 'X' Ring (depending on the brand) and diesel is known to be "rubber unfriendly" (though to a lesser degree than petrol). Either O or X there is a rubber element in the chain and why contribute to a faster wear and tear.

With modern bikes one should go the modern way

In good old days few summers ago, with Yezdi and RD 350 etc, the common method was to remove the chain, wash it in diesel dry it and immerse it in "filtered used oil" which has been warmed in a shallow tray over a stove and then hang it out to drip dry - crued, but this way the chains did last at least 1/3rd more than what was recomended by the manufacturers. Only down side was that after this you had to ensure to ride the bike around in some "to be washed clothes" as you are sure to get some on your clothing and then clean up the bike as well.

Best Regards & Ride Safe

Ram

[ebonho]

Ram I thought diesel was rubber neutral and petrol was rubber hostile. This is getting confusing man. My info is from experts also. LOL

[r_nairtvm]

Doc, experts often agree to disagree isn't it. Its confusing. The general thought specially around ME is that both should be avoided as a cleaning agent. You get pleanty of "machinery"/"hand" cleaning solutions in bulk around - that even in busy work shops I have not seen them using diesel as a cleaning agent.

I should tell this to the KTM WS Manager here about this

Best Regards & Ride Safe

Ram

[mobike008]

That was an interesting piece of conversation mates, especially on the "experts"

I dont even know if chain on the Bonnie comes with O or X rings. Need to take a closer peek to know that.

Even I thought diesel is rubber friendly as i used to give that shiny sheen to my car tyres with a dab of diesel on sides and nothing ever happened from my age old practice

Anyways, I will stick to the modern method of keeping a modern bike under vintage clothes clean which is using off-the-shelf available products to keep the chain clean and wet

[harsha.muvva]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Yesterday I sourced the MOTUL products (Clean & Lube) from "Ratiwal Agencies" at Ramkote as they are the main stockist for AP and are stone throw away from my home.

Ah!Thats the same shop i used to buy lube and engine oil from.

Owner ( Naresh Ratiwal) is a friendly guy

That 10 mins conversation got me a 10% discount..LOL!

Now i know whom to consult before my next purchase of engine oil/lube

Not a bad deal to spend 900 bucks for every 4000kms. What say?

Now a days i feel like lubing the chain for every 400-500 kms or after water-wash even though its not totally necessary

I am planning to use WD40 as i have couple of cans lying with me and regarding the usage of diesel AFAIK there is no harm in cleaning with diesel.

regards,
harsha

[n_aditya]

Avi, your best bet is to use dedicated chain clean and chain lube solvents such as Motul, Tribocor, etc. as I had listed in my earlier posts.

See this for more information.

Edit - The bonny comes with an X-ring chain according to Triumph India website.

[r_nairtvm]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Anyways, I will stick to the modern method of keeping a modern bike under vintage clothes clean which is using off-the-shelf available products to keep the chain clean and wet

Avi,

According to me the most important "tool" you need to do a proper job of it



I don't know if its available in any Indian Brands, but its available in plenty from the likes of ebay et al.

Also the following video is a nice one showing clearly how its (cleaning and lubing) done properly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNSGEzbDxKY

Best Regards & Ride Safe

Ram

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by harsha.muvva

Ah!Thats the same shop i used to buy lube and engine oil from.

Originally Posted by n_aditya

Avi, your best bet is to use dedicated chain clean and chain lube solvents such as Motul, Tribocor, etc. as I had listed in my earlier posts. Edit - The bonny comes with an X-ring chain according to Triumph India website.

Below are some pics of the MOTUL products that I bought. I plan to get the chain cleaned and lubed before our saturday ride

Originally Posted by r_nairtvm

Avi,
According to me the most important "tool" you need to do a proper job of it

Thats a lovely tool Ram and looks like made specifically to clean chains as it has a "mouth" to grasp the chain from top and bottom for better cleaning

Will add that to list off stuff I plan to source from states

[r_nairtvm]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Thats a lovely tool Ram and looks like made specifically to clean chains as it has a "mouth" to grasp the chain from top and bottom for better cleaning

Will add that to list off stuff I plan to source from states

Ensure you get some spare "brush heads" as well. You would have noticed that they are replacable. It should be costing less than USD 5/- a peice with one set of spare heads.

Best Regards & Ride Safe

Ram

[Jaggu]

Bonnie has FINAL*DRIVE X*ring*chain

Bonneville+Brochure.pdf

[mobike008]

Last night fellow BHPian (Rider60) came home and did a wonderful DIY demo for chain clean and lubing

Now I realize this cleaning business is going to get expensive. The MOTUL C1 is almost half finished by the time we were done with this cleaning job

BEFORE



WORK-IN-PROGRESS



AFTER



Marked difference...eh?