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Originally Posted by AC_genius My dear friend, you are surely smitten by the bonnie's love because otherwise I can't connect why you are so obsessed with HD engine vibrations. I think we have already had this discussion on the threads previously.
Now I am not implying Iron is smoother than the Bonnie here. Practically it is not meant to be V-Twins are supposed to be torque heavy and brash. That is their character and charm but this brashness falls quite a bit short of the painful level you are implying. |
I do not think any one has claimed from HD side that 883 is smoother than bonnie. Its not! there is a good reason for that!
883 is based on 1200cc evo , it shares same crank , connecting rods , big /small end bearings , oil pump , primary drive and entire clutch (with only clutch spring being different and costing 27$ for 1200 version)
883 uses a small bore , meaning cylinders and pistons are different.
all rotational masses have been made and balanced for 1200 running at 10:1 and MEP . 883 has same gearbox and same belt drive so you dont need to worry about swapping anything on the entire bike.
Downside is , engine is never truly balanced in 883 version as it is using different weight of pistons and different thrust is generated as compared to 1200.
But there is a massive advantage as well , when that power bug bites you , which usually does once you realize how much fun that low rev torque is , at least you have option to upgrade without changing the bike you have been spending time with and pampering .
Official Harley upgrades to 1200 start at around 1.1lc but since evo is an old timer lot of really reliable houses have developed bolt on kits!
you can get 1200cc & 1212cc & 1250cc & 1450cc bolt on kits that come with new cylinders and pistons from S&S , revtec, NHRS , Hammer performance , Axtell and Weisco.
some of these houses have multiple world records for sportsters and Hammer performance and NHRS hold of more than 30 LSR alone.
Not only these kits increase torque beyond what factory standard kits do but can be ordered with your choice of compression ratios and squish clearances.
Golden line is one of the most popular 1250 kit from Hammer starts at 599$ plus 105$ shipping , 1450kit starts at 900$ (plus 10% discount if you are in their good list).
you are looking at 50-60k in rupees and you have one truly maniac hotrod!
Its common to have 75-80rwhp with 110+nm , but if you go by the Guidelines set hammer dan , people have 111bhp from 1250kits , and that kind of bhp from a low rev motor is all torque.
Yes it certainly will increase expenses for rear tyre replacement.
Its soo much fun leaving twinkies wondering what did that 883 ate for breakfast when you open up alongside on a Highway.
I do not think Fun is in kmph , on a Busa / goldwing /intruders when you will look down onto the speed for the first time you are most likely past 200 already , and you or the machine are so comfortable! there is not ants in the pants feeling! No Vibes to remind you , undulations of road don't bother you at all and things like that.
When a rider gets down from a Harley you don't need to ask , smile says it all. Most likely he would not be able to speak for a while because of adrenaline and orgasms!
Its for people to decide they want a Number posted on FB from their speedo or they want fun for themselves.
Harleys are calm when you are calm , they are very angry bikes when you are in the mood!
I agree Superlow and Iron feel less Flick-able as compared to most other bikes, but trust me Its just a Feeling , they demand more input from rider and quite flick able if you are willing to commit.
Most people Ride only Sunday to sunday or in free time on this segment of bikes.
If even than your bike is running like its a driver less vehicle , doing everything too easy , not involving the rider , not asking for concentration , even the sunday rides become a chore after a few months.
I believe Harleys can do all the fun stuff , but they ask you to participate more . They are not like a Movie you are watching , they are the Playstation where the Hero fails if you do not react on the remote!