A W201 Mercedes Benz 190 RHD of 1990 four speed manual

anjan_c2007 · 28th June 2010, 22:45

This 1990 Merc has a 4 cylinder 2.3-liter, 8-valve, 136 hp, petrol engine (W201) and has been bought a few days ago at New Delhi by my friend.It was brought by road to Nagpur. The car is in awesome shape even 18 years since it was made.The exterior look is a bit forlorn for a Merc but the interiors are well cared for and decent. The engine is in ship shape and the car can touch 125 kmph plus with no effort. It has a four speed manual gearbox and the OE sunroof.
The wheel caps are intact and the left ORVM is missing.The right ORVM is quite OK.The three pointed star over the bonnet is not fixed but flexible and can be bent as may be observed in the pictures.
The instrument console is neatly laid out with meters in an aesthetic array and the clock showing the proper time. The warning lights are at the base in a horizontal layout one beside the other.The car has ABS braking and the fusebox is fantastically designed.After all it is a Merc. I could not get a good picture of the fusebox, (hope to do so soon) but it can be sighted at the extreme right end of the engine bay towards the driver side.

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aniguchisan · 28th June 2010, 23:27

I'm sorry to say, but the car looks miserable. However, I'm sure your friend will give it some much needed TLC to bring it back to its glorious form.

ajmat · 29th June 2010, 09:50

The 2.3 engine was never available in the RHD w201 except for the cosworth versions. It was avaiable for the US market if I am correct. I also think that it never came with a 4speed manual

I note the badge says 190 only. All fuel injected w201 were 190E's or 190D's.
The bonnet underlay has disappeared
Wheel trims are from the later w124

It could be a 190 carb with a 2.3 engine slotted in

.anshuman · 29th June 2010, 09:59

The car has Hisar, Haryana registration and the series (G) indicates the car was registered around year 1998-2000.

akshay4587 · 29th June 2010, 10:01

From the pics,it looks like,it needs a lot work.
best of luck to your friend for the restoration.
@anjan,i am surprised that you are calling these interiors as well kept.

Mpower · 30th June 2010, 21:09

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Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

This 1990 Merc has a 4 cylinder 2.3-liter, 8-valve, 136 hp, petrol engine (W201) and has been bought a few days ago at New Delhi by my friend.It was brought by road to Nagpur. The car is in awesome shape even 18 years since it was made.The exterior look is a bit forlorn for a Merc but the interiors are well cared for and decent. The engine is in ship shape and the car can touch 125 kmph plus with no effort. It has a four speed manual gearbox and the OE sunroof.

Hey congrats Anjan. Whats the mileage on the odo? also $$?
If its a 2.3 liter engine then, there would have been a 2.3 badge on the RHS bootlid like 190E 2.6. From what Ajit says the E probably stands for EFI which this one does not have judging from the large saucepan airfilter on top of the engine.

This one should be a straightforward restoration. I'd say first order of things

clean up the interior throughly
degrease the engine bay,
attend to all the rust spots
get the missing trim pieces (Opera house?)
Through tune up ie., change all fluids, filters etc (looking at the car, I'm assuming it didnt come with service records)

anjan_c2007 · 30th June 2010, 23:06

Thanks friends for the feedback. The car is really in not a good shape as of now.
akshay4587 true the interiors are not at all that good. But seeing the exterior I was expecting the interiors to be more shabby but the seats looked much better and so also most things were in their places.As many have said the car needs a massive dose of TLC.MPower thanks for all the details.Will inform him about it sure.
Its the smallest Merc of its time (the A Class had'nt come)but is still larger than a Toyota Corolla. The build is very solid.This was the forerunner for the C Class that came in in 1993 after the 190 series was discontinued.
All said and done the guy that my friend is, he is'nt really bothered about any restoration of any kind.He says that the car came from Delhi to Nagpur like a very fit and energetic Merc and so as long as its mechanically perfect and the three pointed star stays on the bonnet and boot he does'nt care as to how the car looks.

GTO · 1st July 2010, 21:47

A true classic, congratulations to your friend.

Just out of curiosity, why would anyone buy a 190 over a W124 E220 / E250? The W124 is also a classic Merc, you can get 10 year newer examples with clean paperwork & service history (the Indian ones), is more spacious, will be in far better condition and go really cheap these days. So why a 190? Why not a '96 / '97 E220 with 141 BHP on tap?

adilkhan5 · 1st July 2010, 23:13

How much did you pay for it? I have a 93 190D 2.5 Five cylinder auto with alloys and electric sun roof which I am presently restoring.

anjan_c2007 · 2nd July 2010, 22:19

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Originally Posted by GTO

A true classic, congratulations to your friend.

Just out of curiosity, why would anyone buy a 190 over a W124 E220 / E250? The W124 is also a classic Merc, you can get 10 year newer examples with clean paperwork & service history (the Indian ones), is more spacious, will be in far better condition and go really cheap these days. So why a 190? Why not a '96 / '97 E220 with 141 BHP on tap?

GTO I too could not get any convincing reply to this query.Moreover I feel Merc A.S.S. do not stock the spares for the 190 as it was imported.As you say the E220 of 96-97 should have Indian connections so spares are easier to come by.
By the way I suddenly remembered about test driving the Rover Montego. Will do so soon.

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Originally Posted by adilkhan5

How much did you pay for it? I have a 93 190D 2.5 Five cylinder auto with alloys and electric sun roof which I am presently restoring.

Adil I believe prices cannot be discussed here on the forum so sorry.
Nice to know that you too own a 190 diesel. Do post pictures and also if you can start a thread it will be beautiful.Do you get the spares from the Merc A.S.S. or through other stockists?

diecast · 2nd July 2010, 23:32

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Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

GTO I too could not get any convincing reply to this query.Moreover I feel Merc A.S.S. do not stock the spares for the 190 as it was imported.As you say the E220 of 96-97 should have Indian connections so spares are easier to come by.
By the way I suddenly remembered about test driving the Rover Montego. Will do so soon.

Adil I believe prices cannot be discussed here on the forum so sorry.
Nice to know that you too own a 190 diesel. Do post pictures and also if you can start a thread it will be beautiful.Do you get the spares from the Merc A.S.S. or through other stockists?

I guess if you are around Delhi side you can for parts in Delhi karol Bagh or some other old imported parts shop and most of the parts by Merecdes are comman around the series and vechicles.

But the Car have potential and i seen couple of garage in punjan where they give life to old mercdes cars and make good money selling them to NRI's

adilkhan5 · 3rd July 2010, 17:38

Citimotors in Mumbai, and also some second hand stuffed sourced from Chor Bazaar

anjan_c2007 · 5th July 2010, 19:21

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Originally Posted by diecast

I guess if you are around Delhi side you can for parts in Delhi karol Bagh or some other old imported parts shop and most of the parts by Merecdes are comman around the series and vechicles.

But the Car have potential and i seen couple of garage in punjan where they give life to old mercdes cars and make good money selling them to NRI's

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Originally Posted by adilkhan5

Citimotors in Mumbai, and also some second hand stuffed sourced from Chor Bazaar

Thanks diecast and adilkhan for the information. diecast the owner visits Delhi often so I will tell him about the location. I will pass the information to the owner.Adil He has contacts in Chorbazar Mumbai.

agspins · 5th July 2010, 19:43

I would suggest to try at Kashmere Gate rather than Karol Bagh and even at Mayapuri to a extent..Kb's mostly good for accessories ( though a good no of parts shop are there).

Prasanna.N · 8th January 2012, 16:00

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Originally Posted by adilkhan5

How much did you pay for it? I have a 93 190D 2.5 Five cylinder auto with alloys and electric sun roof which I am presently restoring.

Dear Sir,

Its a pleasure to here that u r restring the 190D 2.5, 1988 model. She is a gr8 car. I just bought is a month ago. A friend of mine was owning it for 5 yrs and before that it was with a family friend of his in kerala. They had her imported in 97. She is cool. She is returning me a oooping 14 to 15 Kmpl. I have a problem with her. the drive shaft center bearing is not right and she is giving me that characterstic mercedes rumbling noise. Can you tell me where can i get genuine spares for her. Tnx. Prasanna. Mysore.

28th June 2010, 22:45	#1
anjan_c2007 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 8,708 Thanked: 22,848 Times View My Garage	A W201 Mercedes Benz 190 RHD of 1990 four speed manual This 1990 Merc has a 4 cylinder 2.3-liter, 8-valve, 136 hp, petrol engine (W201) and has been bought a few days ago at New Delhi by my friend.It was brought by road to Nagpur. The car is in awesome shape even 18 years since it was made.The exterior look is a bit forlorn for a Merc but the interiors are well cared for and decent. The engine is in ship shape and the car can touch 125 kmph plus with no effort. It has a four speed manual gearbox and the OE sunroof. The wheel caps are intact and the left ORVM is missing.The right ORVM is quite OK.The three pointed star over the bonnet is not fixed but flexible and can be bent as may be observed in the pictures. The instrument console is neatly laid out with meters in an aesthetic array and the clock showing the proper time. The warning lights are at the base in a horizontal layout one beside the other.The car has ABS braking and the fusebox is fantastically designed.After all it is a Merc. I could not get a good picture of the fusebox, (hope to do so soon) but it can be sighted at the extreme right end of the engine bay towards the driver side.
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28th June 2010, 23:27	#2
aniguchisan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 2,022 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	I'm sorry to say, but the car looks miserable. However, I'm sure your friend will give it some much needed TLC to bring it back to its glorious form.
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29th June 2010, 09:50	#3
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,175 Thanked: 31,070 Times View My Garage	The 2.3 engine was never available in the RHD w201 except for the cosworth versions. It was avaiable for the US market if I am correct. I also think that it never came with a 4speed manual I note the badge says 190 only. All fuel injected w201 were 190E's or 190D's. The bonnet underlay has disappeared Wheel trims are from the later w124 It could be a 190 carb with a 2.3 engine slotted in
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29th June 2010, 09:59	#4
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,124 Times View My Garage	The car has Hisar, Haryana registration and the series (G) indicates the car was registered around year 1998-2000.
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29th June 2010, 10:01	#5
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,157 Thanked: 4,722 Times View My Garage	From the pics,it looks like,it needs a lot work. best of luck to your friend for the restoration. @anjan,i am surprised that you are calling these interiors as well kept. Last edited by akshay4587 : 29th June 2010 at 10:02.
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30th June 2010, 23:06	#7
anjan_c2007 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 8,708 Thanked: 22,848 Times View My Garage	Thanks friends for the feedback. The car is really in not a good shape as of now. akshay4587 true the interiors are not at all that good. But seeing the exterior I was expecting the interiors to be more shabby but the seats looked much better and so also most things were in their places.As many have said the car needs a massive dose of TLC.MPower thanks for all the details.Will inform him about it sure. Its the smallest Merc of its time (the A Class had'nt come)but is still larger than a Toyota Corolla. The build is very solid.This was the forerunner for the C Class that came in in 1993 after the 190 series was discontinued. All said and done the guy that my friend is, he is'nt really bothered about any restoration of any kind.He says that the car came from Delhi to Nagpur like a very fit and energetic Merc and so as long as its mechanically perfect and the three pointed star stays on the bonnet and boot he does'nt care as to how the car looks.
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1st July 2010, 21:47	#8
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,815 Thanked: 321,313 Times View My Garage	A true classic, congratulations to your friend. Just out of curiosity, why would anyone buy a 190 over a W124 E220 / E250? The W124 is also a classic Merc, you can get 10 year newer examples with clean paperwork & service history (the Indian ones), is more spacious, will be in far better condition and go really cheap these days. So why a 190? Why not a '96 / '97 E220 with 141 BHP on tap?
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1st July 2010, 23:13	#9
adilkhan5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 125 Thanked: 159 Times View My Garage	How much did you pay for it? I have a 93 190D 2.5 Five cylinder auto with alloys and electric sun roof which I am presently restoring.
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3rd July 2010, 17:38	#12
adilkhan5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 125 Thanked: 159 Times View My Garage	Citimotors in Mumbai, and also some second hand stuffed sourced from Chor Bazaar
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5th July 2010, 19:43	#14
agspins Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MH-31 Posts: 1,660 Thanked: 532 Times View My Garage	I would suggest to try at Kashmere Gate rather than Karol Bagh and even at Mayapuri to a extent..Kb's mostly good for accessories ( though a good no of parts shop are there).
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