Swift - Rhs Mirror Gone

Surprise · 8th August 2005, 10:17

This morning I was slowly pushing the vehicle (40 KMPH) towards my office with my wife as co passenger. I took a left turn to take on another empty stretch & kept my vehicle on the extreme left with sufficient passage for the pedestrians and motorists.

A bus was coming in the opposite direction a little faster than normal speed in that road. When the bus was about to cross me, a van which was closely following that bus moved towards right to check the possibilities of overtaking the bus.

In no time, the van hit my right hand side mirror. The mirror and other plastics went flying into pieces. I was shocked to see that van was very very close to my car at that speed. I was relaxed after the van crossed me. The van driver never stopped his vehicle and passed away from the sight.

Parked the vehicle, collected the plastic pieces (though it is not useful) & drove to the office.

I was happy that guy has not hit the front portion of the car, in which case, its painful in terms of both damage caused and time that needs to be spent

nishant_kingpin · 8th August 2005, 10:41

Even though the rear view mirrors of some cars are longer but my personal experience says that they provide first line of defense from other rash vehicles. In a bid to keep away from the mirror, a whole lot of people stay at a distance from the car.

Some rash 800's have still come really close to my Indica and eventually our rear view mirrors collided while moving in opposite directions. The Indica managed with a minor scratch but the 800 lost its mirror assembly. I was the one who stopped but the other vehicle owner probably did not bother. Also lot of guys on two wheels moving like serpents in traffic try to keep away from the longish mirror hence keeping away from the car.

"Blessing in disguise"

satan_crazy · 8th August 2005, 14:39

good advice

but am worried that some moron would bang into those side mirrors.

ajmat · 8th August 2005, 16:20

Well - better the mirror than the bodywork

Surprise · 9th August 2005, 11:38

I found it difficult while driving, without having the right hand side mirror, which was broken yesterday morning. I decided to replace immediately & checked with the dealer.

I was told that they do not have any stock & will let me know once the stock arrives. Checked with other vendors who deals with maruti products and got the same reply. Only one of the vendor was able to tell me that it will approximately costs Rs.2500/-. Is it true? Any one got idea what the exact price was?

One of my friend who owns an ALTO was telling me it costs less than Rs.500/- for adding up LHS mirror. Huge difference.

turbo_lover · 9th August 2005, 11:45

hey doesnt the swift come with those unbreakable type side mirrors ?
the ones which bend backwards or closes immediately (incase of frontal side impact)at times like these ?

2500 is huge man ! considering Side view mirrors are very vulnerable to damage...
the mirror glass in my corsa was replaced for 300 2 years back ..but despite the frontal impact only the glass broke by the mirror plastic and all was intact ..

alto the whole thing needs to be replaced ..plastic is rather brittle ..

sandeepmdas · 9th August 2005, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Surprise

Only one of the vendor was able to tell me that it will approximately costs Rs.2500/-. Is it true?

One of my friend who owns an ALTO was telling me it costs less than Rs.500/- for adding up LHS mirror. Huge difference.

Well, I don't know the price for the Swift's ORVM, but for an Indica, it will come around Rs.1300.

Indica non-OE (read "duplicate") mirror can be bought for Rs.600-700. No harm trying because it is not a mechanical part (only a mirror...) though I went for the OE version, because I bought the very next day after the salary day! The non-OE mirrors are usually without the on-mirror lettering ("The objects appear in the mirror..."). The internal adjustment mechanism is also a bit smoother in the OE version. Apart from that there's no difference at all.

Regarding the Alto. I am not sure whether it has internally adjustable OVRMs. If its not internally adjustable, that could be the reason for the difference, if it has internal adjustment, well, you can say that the Swift is still enjoying its honeymoon...

Never drive without your RH wing mirror, since you are used to rely on it heavily. I also faced the same dilemma.

Surprise · 9th August 2005, 11:59

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Originally Posted by turbo_lover

the ones which bend backwards or closes immediately (incase of frontal side impact)at times like these ?

It is not smooth enough for free movement.

The other problem is the way in which they have molded the two parts of the plastic into single piece. It doesn't stick well at all.

In my case, the plastic that covers the back portion of the mirror went into two pieces & the mirror has developed "n" number of cracks, but not broken into pieces.

The remaining system works fine, if adjusted from inside. But Iam sure they will insists on replacing the entire mirror. But if they charge Rs.2500/- for it,

I cannot do anything and need to get it replaced

Xsailor · 9th August 2005, 12:17

@Surprise

Go for the OEM, mate. The mirror maketh the difference - Duplicate mirrors have hardly much of a convex surface and are more like plain mirrors - defeats the whole purpose, pal. Dunno bout the Swift but for the Santro, a new RHS (for the old model, elephant ears type) costs about 750/-.

Cheers

navin · 9th August 2005, 12:45

as the swift becomes dated the price will fall. but this is price you pay for getting a car that is new. i know i had the same experince 9 years ago with my Opel Astra. Must have been the same van :-)

Surprise · 9th August 2005, 14:34

Just got a call from my dealer to confirm that they have spares in their Ambattur spares shop. The total cost for replacing the entire unit will be Rs.1380/-

He added that after sometime (once lot of Swifts on road), the mirror will be available for sale, in which case there is no need for replacing the entire unit until the damage is caused to it. The same thing seems to be happened for Esteem.

Is it not all the glass sizes are similar or it depends on models/makes

hrag · 9th August 2005, 16:12

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Originally Posted by sandeepmdas

Well, I don't know the price for the Swift's ORVM, but for an Indica, it will come around Rs.1300.

The Indica's LHS ORVM cost me Rs. 1110 in March 2003. The OE mirror glass alone costs Rs. 369.

The assembly is quite strong and flexible as well. It folds in quite readily on frontal impact and folds out on impact from the rear. The glass will however break more easily on heavy impacts.

Xsailor · 9th August 2005, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surprise

Just got a call from my dealer to confirm that they have spares in their Ambattur spares shop. The total cost for replacing the entire unit will be Rs.1380/-

Is it not all the glass sizes are similar or it depends on models/makes

Good for you, Surprise and thanks for the info to us Swift owners.

Mirror Sizes - They vary by virtue of the shell of the OVRM. or is it some other answer that you were seeking

Cheers

Surprise · 9th August 2005, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xsailor

Mirror Sizes - They vary by virtue of the shell of the OVRM. or is it some other answer that you were seeking

Cheers

You have answered my query. Just thought if the mirror is of common size why not pick one and fit it in the shell.

8th August 2005, 10:17	#1
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,526 Thanked: 457 Times	Swift - Rhs Mirror Gone This morning I was slowly pushing the vehicle (40 KMPH) towards my office with my wife as co passenger. I took a left turn to take on another empty stretch & kept my vehicle on the extreme left with sufficient passage for the pedestrians and motorists. A bus was coming in the opposite direction a little faster than normal speed in that road. When the bus was about to cross me, a van which was closely following that bus moved towards right to check the possibilities of overtaking the bus. In no time, the van hit my right hand side mirror. The mirror and other plastics went flying into pieces. I was shocked to see that van was very very close to my car at that speed. I was relaxed after the van crossed me. The van driver never stopped his vehicle and passed away from the sight. Parked the vehicle, collected the plastic pieces (though it is not useful) & drove to the office. I was happy that guy has not hit the front portion of the car, in which case, its painful in terms of both damage caused and time that needs to be spent
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8th August 2005, 10:41	#2
nishant_kingpin BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 335 Thanked: 4 Times	Even though the rear view mirrors of some cars are longer but my personal experience says that they provide first line of defense from other rash vehicles. In a bid to keep away from the mirror, a whole lot of people stay at a distance from the car. Some rash 800's have still come really close to my Indica and eventually our rear view mirrors collided while moving in opposite directions. The Indica managed with a minor scratch but the 800 lost its mirror assembly. I was the one who stopped but the other vehicle owner probably did not bother. Also lot of guys on two wheels moving like serpents in traffic try to keep away from the longish mirror hence keeping away from the car. "Blessing in disguise"
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8th August 2005, 14:39	#3
satan_crazy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 129 Thanked: 0 Times	good advice but am worried that some moron would bang into those side mirrors.
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8th August 2005, 16:20	#4
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,022 Thanked: 29,459 Times View My Garage	Well - better the mirror than the bodywork
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9th August 2005, 11:38	#5
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,526 Thanked: 457 Times	I found it difficult while driving, without having the right hand side mirror, which was broken yesterday morning. I decided to replace immediately & checked with the dealer. I was told that they do not have any stock & will let me know once the stock arrives. Checked with other vendors who deals with maruti products and got the same reply. Only one of the vendor was able to tell me that it will approximately costs Rs.2500/-. Is it true? Any one got idea what the exact price was? One of my friend who owns an ALTO was telling me it costs less than Rs.500/- for adding up LHS mirror. Huge difference.
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9th August 2005, 11:45	#6
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	hey doesnt the swift come with those unbreakable type side mirrors ? the ones which bend backwards or closes immediately (incase of frontal side impact)at times like these ? 2500 is huge man ! considering Side view mirrors are very vulnerable to damage... the mirror glass in my corsa was replaced for 300 2 years back ..but despite the frontal impact only the glass broke by the mirror plastic and all was intact .. alto the whole thing needs to be replaced ..plastic is rather brittle .. Last edited by turbo_lover : 9th August 2005 at 11:47.
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9th August 2005, 12:17	#9
Xsailor BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 128 Thanked: 0 Times	Go for OEM @Surprise Go for the OEM, mate. The mirror maketh the difference - Duplicate mirrors have hardly much of a convex surface and are more like plain mirrors - defeats the whole purpose, pal. Dunno bout the Swift but for the Santro, a new RHS (for the old model, elephant ears type) costs about 750/-. Cheers
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9th August 2005, 12:45	#10
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,290 Thanked: 9,457 Times	as the swift becomes dated the price will fall. but this is price you pay for getting a car that is new. i know i had the same experince 9 years ago with my Opel Astra. Must have been the same van :-)
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9th August 2005, 14:34	#11
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,526 Thanked: 457 Times	Just got a call from my dealer to confirm that they have spares in their Ambattur spares shop. The total cost for replacing the entire unit will be Rs.1380/- He added that after sometime (once lot of Swifts on road), the mirror will be available for sale, in which case there is no need for replacing the entire unit until the damage is caused to it. The same thing seems to be happened for Esteem. Is it not all the glass sizes are similar or it depends on models/makes
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