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Old 19th April 2025, 17:05   #22621
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Re: Rants on Bangalore's traffic situation

Our road-maintenance overlords have scraped off the layers of repairs on the city-bound carriageway of Mysore Rd between the NICE interchange - Kengeri Satellite Bus Stand stretch.

Speaks volumes to their 'competence' that the scraped surface of the original shoddy highway is still better than anything they put on top to repair it the last few years. or ? I can't decide.
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Old 20th April 2025, 20:14   #22622
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I hope you are trying to be sarcastic because this is the most illogical reason I have heard. Bangalore is probably the only city where we have speed breakers inside hospital complexes. It is a nightmare to ferry patients in and out, especially if they have and injury or had a surgery. Wonder what the doctors have to say about this.
No, I do speak fluent sarcasm, but not this fluent

I am not referring to speadbreakers within a hospital. That is illogical enough to expect in Bangalore.
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Old 22nd April 2025, 11:37   #22623
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... migrant populations in metros that they are doing some charity for the local people, and they take it for granted that to impose their culture, thoughts, and language upon the local population. ...
Disagree.. Aren't we all migrants on this earth?

To me, this looks more like a law-and-order issue and everything is then clubbed into language, migrants, outsider-insider issue to garner headlines and support.

Dashcam requirements have arisen precisely because of the law and order issue 'cos today anyone can claim anything and then create a ruckus 'cos "outsider-language imposition" etc.
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Old 22nd April 2025, 12:45   #22624
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For example, what happens every morning and every night near Veerasandra? The road in front of the tollbooth has become an unofficial bus terminal for TN- and Kerala-bound buses.
100% agree with you. The ad-hoc long distance bus stop at Veerasandra, and yet there is another one just at the bottom of the Silk Board flyover on the direction towards Hosur. These were all allowed to become normal, by the Traffic Police themselves (don't know of money payments, or directions from political higher ups). Same is the case at Chandapura (a village turned town in 12 years). The bus stop is exactly at the middle of the big road which joins in from Anekal. Imagine, an 80 feet road coming into a four lane highway, with the bus stop right there in the middle. These are all deliberately made traffic jams, which is just allowed to continue on.

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To me, this looks more like a law-and-order issue and everything is then clubbed into language, migrants, outsider-insider issue to garner headlines and support.
Yes. Laxity in law enforcement is the root cause. Bangalore police is not feared by any one; be it locals or non-locals. And I feel that fissures in society (language, religion or any thing which is a differentiator) is deliberately allowed to grow, as that would make people always at the edge. And there would not be time & energy for any other demands of better infrastructure, public transport or any thing which improves life. Keep the people fight with each other.
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Old 22nd April 2025, 12:56   #22625
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These days any incident can become a language and regional incident. Here we see a case where one party was trying to blame the other, saying its a discrimination for not being a kannadiga or for not knowing kannada. Hope the truth comes out. But what concerns me is the amount of physical abuse that one human being can lay on a fellow human being in just an instant. Very merciless kicks on the stomach, punches on the face. This has become quite common.

I have also seen cases where the other way happens. In a minor incident in our apartment complex, I saw one delivery person trying to zoom way too fast in his electric bike in the wrong direction. It was an evening and there were may kids playing in the pathway. I stopped him and said its a wrong way and asked him to slow down. But for some unknown reason, I said the same in my broken Hindi instead of Kannada(which I usually do, to both improve my language skills and to be safe). This immediately enraged him and said in Kannada that he is from Bangalore in an intimidating voice to assert that he is a localite and I am not. Been in Bangalore for 20years and from a nearby place bordering Karnataka, I know Kannada at least up to a conversation level, if not to an intellectual level. I replied to him that I am also a Bangalorean and all I had asked him was to slow down and go in the right direction. Then he left throwing a few cuss words.

So, due to this rising tensions of language/region debates, there are always these opportunists who just use the language/region debate to cover up their mistakes. They are neither concerned about the language nor on the region and just want to ride on the sentiment.
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Old 22nd April 2025, 13:25   #22626
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So, due to this rising tensions of language/region debates, there are always these opportunists who just use the language/region debate to cover up their mistakes.
Few years back me and friends were returning from a trek when a verna guy tried to violently sideswipe my bike on Penya flyover, we tried catching him but couldnt, he was driving too fast in a zig-zag manner on the flyover, finally he was forced to stop at a busy signal after the flyover ended i also stopped next to the driver side window and asked him what was he trying to do, the middle aged gentle man immediately started shouting and abusing me, probably because i was riding an MH number bike.

Little did he know my fried the pillion was a "Gymbro Nanje Gowda from Mandya ", few plesant words by my friend were enough for the co-driver to step out and apologize and accept their mistake, the person driving was apparently their driver.

Have had multiple observations where in many such cases it wasn't about who is right or who is wrong, if you are not a localite you are by default wrong.

And its not about language alone, a malayali team mate driving a KL car was roughed up by a cab driver for literally no-ones fault, inspite of my colleague speaking in Kannada, the KL car was a giveaway he was an "outsider".


Sad state of affairs.
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And its not about language alone, a malayali team mate driving a KL car was roughed up by a cab driver for literally no-ones fault, inspite of my colleague speaking in Kannada, the KL car was a giveaway he was an "outsider".
Sad state of affairs.
The concept of localite in Bangalore is like who speaks what language in which area of Bangalore city. It can be any language other than Kannada if you are stranded in one such area of Bangalore. We have lost patience to drive in crowded areas, but that ego within ourselves stops us from accepting reality, and we react harshly to all small problems.

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The road in front of the tollbooth has become an unofficial bus terminal for TN- and Kerala-bound buses.
The ORR stretch from near More Megastore till the Marathalli underpass and again post the underpass until ISRO junction has become a parking lot for buses every night. Atleast earlier this nuisance used to be only on Fridays, now it has become pretty much every day.

On Thursday I saw a ridiculous sight where one bus was trying to start from the left most lane, hence another bus was waiting on the middle lane blocking all traffic so that it can occupy that bus's space once it moves out. And a third bus had already started and hence was trying to over take the bus in the middle lane to move to the fast lane. Effectively the entire ORR was blocked for about 5 mins
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Old 22nd April 2025, 15:15   #22629
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I feel like the reason for Bangalore's traffic is that drivers simply are not aware of certain rules like lane discipline and right of way, and I think I might have a reason, even if it sounds far-fetched.

So my friend, who studies with me in college, has a brother who passed out before him. Let's call him Mr. X for now. Mr. X had recently acquired his driving license. But the funny part is, he didn't exactly give the driving test. He went to the driving school, drove a few times, and when test day came, he sat in the car and was about to ask the instructor what to do. All of a sudden, the instructor gripped the steering wheel.

That's right, the freaking instructor just decided to take matters into his own hands and he told him, "Hey boss, you leave the steering wheel and gearshift, I'll drive from the passenger seat using these pedals and make you pass." Mr. X was rather shocked when he heard this and had no choice but to yield. I'm not naming the person because it might be a far-fetched story, but if it is true, it might just explain why most people on Bangalore's streets behave like lunatics, trying to cut and weave across any gap they see in traffic.

I sure hope this is just one cock and bull story but if it is true, I can only hope such events are completely eliminated in the future, else it isn't going to look pretty at all.

Driving Schools should ensure that the student receives a proper education on how to drive, and not just a 30 page pamphlet on road signs and a card allowing them to drive legally on these roads.

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More promises for Hebbal interchange:

Hebbal flyover’s new ramp to open only by May, but might not provide expected relief https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le69478244.ece

Recurring delays: Hebbal loop project's April deadline falls by wayside
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/k...ayside-3503544
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More promises for Hebbal interchange:

Hebbal flyover’s new ramp to open only by May, but might not provide expected relief https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le69478244.ece

Recurring delays: Hebbal loop project's April deadline falls by wayside
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/k...ayside-3503544
Not sure why they are doing band-aid work to de-congest this intersection. There is so much space around the place that they could do something right and clean. The KR Puram to City ramp will still be of same width and doesn't help in moving more traffic.

People coming from Tumkur road towards airport have to wait for a long time. Then they have to contend with traffic moving towards left after the flyover. There is too much of cross traffic from right to left and vice versa everywhere. Demented authorities without common sense

I move from City side to Manyata through the flyover ramp and for some reason there is no traffic that uses this route. Nobody from that side goes towards KR Puram ORR

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People coming from Tumkur road towards airport have to wait for a long time.
You can thank the NGT for this including the two lane bridge across the culvert further on.
This is from 2017!
https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le17529676.ece
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You can thank the NGT for this including the two lane bridge across the culvert further on.
Fixed buffer zone near a lake ? The area east of the elevated road itself is an "encroached" section, the lake that was there having been filled up to "reclaim" land. Such a joke.
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You can thank the NGT for this including the two lane bridge across the culvert further on.
This is from 2017!
https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le17529676.ece
NGT is a joke. They dont care that storm drains are encroached by many private properties including tech parks.

Having columns erected shouldn't be a problem. Rivers have that everywhere. Has NGT looked into that ?
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Good news!

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le69376989.ece

The Governer TC Gehlot returns the Greater Bengaluru Governance Bill, citing legal and public interest concerns!

This saves us a lot of time in preparing a Writ Petition (PIL) to challenge the Bill.
Well.. it was great while it lasted.

Looks like the GBGC Bill is back, and has received the Governor’s assent:

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/in...www.google.com

https://www.indiatoday.in/cities/ben...662-2025-04-24

The present government has made sure that this bill receives assent. There is far too much money at stake for the politicians and bureaucrats to sit quietly and allow it to be rejected.

This will be the end of Bangalore’s 3rd tier governance as we know it.
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