[condor]

Flyover/Elevated road on Tumkur Road Shakes !! Has any one experienced this ?

Was returning towards city yesterday evening, and traffic had backed up from the start of the down ramp all the way to Goruguntepalya signal. Sometime back, restrictions on heavy vehicles had been removed and we have trucks also taking this elevated road. While waiting on that down-ramp, Each time a truck/bus climbed the up-ramp to go towards Nelamangala, the flyover was shaking. I thought it was just the heavy vehicles causing it, but then during a brief lull in the traffic on the opposite side, a single car passes by. And still there is a shake.

Wonder how long before something gives ? I hope it's just the ramp stretch. Else it's going to be a crazy situation if they have to go back to mentioned possibility of having to take it all down and rebuild it.

[whitewing]

Originally Posted by condor

Flyover/Elevated road on Tumkur Road Shakes !! Has any one experienced this ? ...

I have experienced the "shake" on the E-City flyover as well. Could it be attributed to the buffeting wind from oncoming traffic?

[sachinpk]

Had to reach office early, so left from home near Chandapura (Bangalore Urban Dt.) to office at Bannerghatta Road. Noticed an unusual traffic jam on the elevated highway. I was aware of the traffic jam getting built up on Silk Board fly over, but this was a surprise. It was a broken down Tata 407. The BETL workshop team and two "Cobras" from the Traffic Police were already at the scene, and clearing the traffic.

I thought about the same scenario happening in the newly proposed 8km-9km underground tunnel roads. On elevated highway, there is atleast a clear sky and some air to breathe. What about the tunnels, with perhaps lots of claustrophobic drivers getting stuck & no where to go? At times I feel that we have lots of Marie Antoniettes* in Bangalore's civic authorities and elected officials.

* Marie Antoniette: The French queen who is believed to have said "The poor peasents don't have bread to eat, then they can have cakes instead?". She was executed during the French Revolution.

[Oppanna]

Originally Posted by condor

Flyover/Elevated road on Tumkur Road Shakes !! Has any one experienced this ?

Originally Posted by whitewing

I have experienced the "shake" on the E-City flyover as well. Could it be attributed to the buffeting wind from oncoming traffic?

Yes I have faced this at both the fly overs. The shake is clearly felt in the Goreguntepalya downward ramp. Especially on a weekend when there is huge blocks leading almost till the mid of the fly over.

For the same reason I get scared to be getting stuck on the fly over. the same thoughts of this fly over collapsing haunts me

[nagarjun]

Originally Posted by Oppanna

Yes I have faced this at both the fly overs. The shake is clearly felt in the Goreguntepalya downward ramp. Especially on a weekend when there is huge blocks leading almost till the mid of the fly over.

For the same reason I get scared to be getting stuck on the fly over. the same thoughts of this fly over collapsing haunts me

I have experienced this almost all flyovers on the middle portions where the beams are resting on bearings. This happens when ever the traffic comes to a stand still on flyovers and its common in Bangalore. I can't explain the technicalities, but they are designed to be like this if I am not wrong.

[gtonsing]

I had to drop my daughter to Phoenix Market City yesterday afternoon to meet with her friends and we started by about 2:30 and on the ORR. onward journey took about 45 mins with delays in Banaswadi area. Return at 6 took surprisingly short. Less than an hour and KR Puram section was all blue on google maps! And we did pass through without a stop all the way till we reached Banaswadi area again - just before the Kalyan nagar flyover - two badly designed speed breakers didnt help. Pleasantly surprised about this experience on a weekday evening driver on ORR - such things are still possible

[arun_sharon]

Found a new hobby while stuck in traffic on the Panathur underpass road – documenting the 'elite' drivers who think lanes are optional. I’ve taken up the noble art of clicking pictures and uploading them to Bangalore’s Public Eye app. The geniuses who believe traffic laws are for ‘ordinary’ people while they zip ahead like they’ve discovered a shortcut to success. My Observation: Out of 10 violators, 5 are autos, 4 are cabs, and the remaining one is a white-collar hero who works in some tech firm – probably coding the next big thing while completely ignoring lane discipline. Not sure if they ever pay the fine, but hey, it’s a solid time pass

[Rainbay]

Hi i witness these behaviours in multiple forms almost daily in Mumbai traffic. It tests my patience to the extreme, but keep reminding myself to be on 'Monk Mode', with occasionally venting to myself (not heard outside due to raised windows due to AC). A typical scenario is if you legitimately (eg gap in traffic) get ahead of a vehicle on the main road from say a turn in side-road or you are exiting from a Building and are then inching in the dense traffic, the vehicle you may have got ahead off honks continously despite the heavy traffic in front, which prevents you from let him get ahead of you even though you would like to get 'rid' of it to keep your sanity. You have to bear it (and resist temptation to react) and it invariably ends with the 'friendly' vehicle going past in an aggressive manner (with or without gesticulating to you) once its able to. Typically & sadly it is owner driven cars that i see this pattern of behaviour. The profile is diverse and hence difficult to categorise them as say youngsters, well-off etc but most seem well educated owners. It is as if you have dared to get ahead of them despite correct road behaviour and you need to pay for it. I like driving and drive defensively but brace myself for these type of experiences when i get behind the wheel.

[nareshtrao]

Originally Posted by arun_sharon

Found a new hobby while stuck in traffic on the Panathur underpass road – documenting the 'elite' drivers who think lanes are optional. I’ve taken up the noble art of clicking pictures and uploading them to Bangalore’s Public Eye app.

I am curious hence asking as I too downloaded this app a couple of months back. However not used it yet as sceptical on "real action" from Cops on this. Even on Twitter (now X) they at times do not respond.

Did you get any acknowledgement or any update on progress? Is there any monitoring done or is it up to the mood and inclination of those "supposedly" managing the app back-end?

In fact even when I pinged the Joint CP who is supposedly very progressive and Tech savvy, on Ring Road and Bellandur issues, I never even got a response. So figured all the officialdom are the same and this city is "dying" as the folks on Reddit are saying lately.

On that point I have a side question: Do you not have any alternate route for Panathur underpass? This has been in the new for eons now but nothing seems to have moved the administration to do anything. How about a longer but a rather more "peaceful" route? Asking as I am not too familar with the roads in that area.

[arun_sharon]

Originally Posted by nareshtrao

Did you get any acknowledgement or any update on progress? Is there any monitoring done or is it up to the mood and inclination of those "supposedly" managing the app back-end?

On that point I have a side question: Do you not have any alternate route for Panathur underpass? This has been in the new for eons now but nothing seems to have moved the administration to do anything. How about a longer but a rather more "peaceful" route? Asking as I am not too familar with the roads in that area.

I used to get acknowledgments on the reported issues until last year. Recently, I have not seen any action.

There are few ways to reach Kadubesanahalli: 1) Panathur underpass, 2) via Vibgyor School Road towards HAL Road and back to ORR, 3) 100 feet Balanus Road and take Sarjapur Road, then straight via Manipal junction or Via AET junction.

But all are similar in nature and I feel staying in Panathur is less stressful since we can turn off the vehicle for 15 minutes x 3 times minimum before we cross the bridge

[SuhasSalavathsa]

I am not sure if everyone goes through this. Out of 10 vehicles irrespective whether it's a car or bike or heavy vehicle, at least 8 will be driving with their mobile phones in hand or talking with phone in one hand. It gets so frustrating that they don't even stop their vehicles to talk or at least give side for the person who properly honks and overtakes. I don't know why law and order doesn't take any strict action against these acts. It is really a bad habit because of which the person who doesn't make a mistake gets impacted.

[nma83]

I saw a funny thing yesterday evening at silk board signal. A bike and a car next to each other had youtube videos running on screens in front of them - the biker had the phone on a phone holder and the car seemed to be 'upgraded' to a full fledged tablet in the center console. People have resigned themselves to these distractions since they are anyway crawling and stopped most of the time on the ORR.

I changed my work place recently, moving from an office in MG road to one in Bellandur. And my home is in JP Nagar. Surprisingly, the ORR commute though painfully slow is relatively peaceful since I see most drivers maintaining lanes for the most part. While going through the city to MG road, everyone seemed to be in a mad rush and even a 30 min commute was stressful.

[suhaas307]

Originally Posted by suhaas307

https://Youtu.be/f1wuWEGXhik?si=hxUp8DqgOIoB6fms

Karnataka passes Greater Bengaluru Governance Bill, and it is pending the Governer’s assent, which is only a matter of time.

The Bill proposes to split up municipal duties (assigned to one corporation presently) and assign them to 7 different corporations constituted by the Government.

This Bill will be the death knell for the city’s planning committee. It’s unconstitutional and violates the Hon’ble Supreme Court’s mandate and the 74th Amendment of the Constitution.

Although it deserves to be challenged, and it will be challenged, when it gets stayed by the Hon’ble High Court, it’s going to play right into the hands of the Government since it will buy them more time to postpone the municipal elections that have been pending for more than 5 years now!

Originally Posted by binand

Personally, I think this is a good idea. BBMP is too large to be wieldy now. Remember that it was formed by merging the erstwhile BMP with several outlying municipalities and villages. This move, in my opinion, is the tacit acknowledgement that the merger has not worked as intended (which is obvious to all of us who live here).

Originally Posted by ShreyG

Completely agree to your point. Decentralization is mostly a good way to encourage localized development.

However, given the evidence and the way the machinery operates, it is highly unlikely that all the government bodies would work even 50% more seamlessly (even with an overarching body like GBA) for public convenience.

Originally Posted by suhaas307

I agree with the idea, and in theory it should work.

But, and this is a big BUT.. the object / intent / motive needs to be examined closely and I don’t mean a mere a surface level examination of the proposed Bill.

Few things to be aware of:

a) There already exists a mandate and provision to constitute a Metropolitan Planning Committee (MPC) under the Constitution (74th Amendment).

b) There already exists a municipality wherein elections are to be conducted mandatorily and an authorised representative is to be elected in order to oversee the municipal works and undertakings.

Now, this proposed Bill would have been worth exploring, if…

1) The MPC had already already constituted 5-6 years ago, and

2) The BBMP elections (pending for almost a decade) were conducted and an elected representative was appointed…

..and the constitution of the MPC and election of the municipal body’s representative did not meet the desired object during the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by am1m

Bang on! I met an employee of the BBMP, expressed my hope that the elections would happen finally, he started laughing and said that would never happen because it suited the ministers and MLAs just fine to have absolute control of where to spend (eat) funds.

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Another veritable sword of Damocles hanging over GoKA.

Rs 18,948 crore at stake: Poll delays put Karnataka's central funds in jeopardy
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../115548416.cms

Delaying local body polls cost Karnataka Rs 2.8k crore funds
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../114203097.cms

Good news!

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...le69376989.ece

The Governer TC Gehlot returns the Greater Bengaluru Governance Bill, citing legal and public interest concerns!

This saves us a lot of time in preparing a Writ Petition (PIL) to challenge the Bill.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by condor

Flyover/Elevated road on Tumkur Road Shakes !! Has any one experienced this ?

Every flyover/bridge shakes. It is termed as 'flex'. It is done by design to withstand stress and movements without damage. The amount of flex is incorporated in the design of the bridge so that the loading does not cause the structure to fail.

[AtheK]

Originally Posted by arun_sharon

Found a new hobby while stuck in traffic on the Panathur underpass road – documenting the 'elite' drivers who think lanes are optional. I’ve taken up the noble art of clicking pictures and uploading them to Bangalore’s Public Eye app.Not sure if they ever pay the fine, but hey, it’s a solid time pass

Originally Posted by nareshtrao

I am curious hence asking as I too downloaded this app a couple of months back. However not used it yet as sceptical on "real action" from Cops on this. Even on Twitter (now X) they at times do not respond.

Did you get any acknowledgement or any update on progress? Is there any monitoring done or is it up to the mood and inclination of those "supposedly" managing the app back-end?

In fact even when I pinged the Joint CP who is supposedly very progressive and Tech savvy, on Ring Road and Bellandur issues, I never even got a response. So figured all the officialdom are the same and this city is "dying" as the folks on Reddit are saying lately.

Originally Posted by arun_sharon

I used to get acknowledgments on the reported issues until last year. Recently, I have not seen any action.

The reason you might not be getting any traction to your noble cause is because the app is phased out and not monitored anymore, you can use the new app as per the advisory below.