Accident : Merc rams into horse cart

Dippy · 17th June 2005, 10:55

Another night another accident. A guy driving his Mercedes at midnight on his way home rammed into a horse cart on the Vakola flyover injuring the four occupants and the horses. One of the injured is critical and one horse is on the verge of death. The guy driving the car is a hoteliers son and my brother's classmate in the Hotel Management college. The car being driven was an E250D W124. The guy was also present with us on the first day of SpeedRun 2005.

Read about it here

Mid-day Linky

Dippy

Gordon · 17th June 2005, 11:13

Read this article in the paper. The number of accidents are increasing by the day. The horses suffered a lot, because they were unattended for a long period of time. The passengers in the horse cart seem to be seriously injured. I pray for their recovery as soon as possible.

Fast driving is illegal and rash. Most people would comment saying otherwise, but its the fact. The speed limit is made to avoid dangers of fast driving and the risks involved in it. When anyone crosses the speed limit no matter how good he is at it, it doesn't make a difference, its called rash and irresponsible behavior. The public roads are not meant for anyone's speed delights, they are meant for disciplined driving under the rules.

Team-BHP follows rules and thus encourages every member to step off the gas and be within speed limits.

navin · 17th June 2005, 12:08

mumbai is one dangerours place to drive; with no place for pedestrians, a mix of traffic that can range from ferraris to bullok carts and the poor condition of most taxis and rickshaws (seen one with working indicators or brake lights lately) and road repairs accidents of this sort are becoming all to common. add to this a healthy does of pothole and speedbreakers and indiscipline from motorists and pedestrians alike and incidents like this are the result.

There are a lot of rules we have documented but few of these are implemnted regularly.

Boom Shiva · 17th June 2005, 13:15

This may seem insensitive, but what was a horsecart doing on a flyover in the middle of the night? Speeding is a crime, but going too slow is equally dangerous, and is a heavily fined offence abroad.

This seems like a case where both parties are to blame...just unfortunate that people and animals have had to suffer so much.

Harrie · 17th June 2005, 13:31

It cant be blamed on the driver entirely. The same has happened to a friend once. He was travelling in his ambassdor on the NH 47. A bullock cart was going in front. He was momentarily blinded by the headlights of a bus coming in the opposite direction and failed to notice the cart in front. By the time he realised he had crashed.

The point being it is all but impossible to notice a cart going in front when there is a powerful headlight falling on you from the other side of the road.

Dippy · 17th June 2005, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Boom Shiva

This may seem insensitive, but what was a horsecart doing on a flyover in the middle of the night? Speeding is a crime, but going too slow is equally dangerous, and is a heavily fined offence abroad.

This seems like a case where both parties are to blame...just unfortunate that people and animals have had to suffer so much.

I agree . The cart was definately in the wrong place. And on top of that it definately must be in the fast lane too. I doubt the Merc would be speeding in the left most slow lane

Dippy

BuRnT RuBbEr · 17th June 2005, 14:49

if the driver can be blamed..so can the horse cart man be........what was he doing on a flyover at midnight???

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and maybe..that road might possibly be blocked for slow vehicles to enter and that horse cart should have been there in the first place...( i dont know anything about bombay roads..but here in delhi..some roads are prohibited to slow traffic...like carts, rikshaws etc.)....

contemplate on how a person behind the wheels feels when pedestrians/bycycle riders/other slow stuff suddenly pop out of nowhere..how does he feel..i guess way more terrified than the people outside .....

when somthing comes in...u cant save yourself even if u r driving at 40....

revtech · 17th June 2005, 15:12

i really feel sorry for the animal.its entirely not his fault at all he did what his master made him do without knowing the danger involved.and as gordon said the horses were not taken care of for a long time.and in this case i feel the horse cart guy is more at fault then the guy driving his mercedes.firstly the horse cart is not suppose to be on flyovers and im sure he was in the right most lane because as somebody mentioned before i dont think the mercedes would be going fast in the left lane.

accidents are taking place almsot every night indifferent parts of the city so guys becareful and be aware.it could happen to any one.always wear your seatbelts and always observe the speed limit.

drive safe !!

Rev

nitrous · 17th June 2005, 15:18

The Merc driver is not totally at blame.

GTO · 17th June 2005, 15:33

Why does everyone presume that a young guy driving a Mercedes involved in an accident had got to be speeding?

GTO

Rtech · 17th June 2005, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Why does everyone presume that a young guy driving a Mercedes involved in an accident had got to be speeding?

GTO

Guilty Conscience?

J/K

shravan316 · 17th June 2005, 15:42

Really sad to hear about the accident. Its not entirely the Merc driver's fault.

P.s:Isn't there a rule which says carts, tractors etc should stay away from highways etc at night??

Gordon · 17th June 2005, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Why does everyone presume that a young guy driving a Mercedes involved in an accident had got to be speeding?

GTO

Obviously the cart guy wasn't speeding

Judging from the pics taken of the extent of damage done, the Mercedes had to be speeding. The report also says that he was well above the speed limit.

GTO · 17th June 2005, 15:58

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The report also says that he was well above the speed limit.

Every report notes speeding as the cause. As me and you both know, not all accidents are speeding related.

Even if the Mercedes had to crash into him at 50 km/h, the poor cart would have been blown to pieces.

GTO

Rtech · 17th June 2005, 16:06

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The report also says that he was well above the speed limit.

The speed limit was probably an unrealistic 35kmph or something, just as it is on the JJ flyover. So ofcourse he would be going above that!

17th June 2005, 10:55	#1
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,738 Thanked: 4,105 Times	Accident : Merc rams into horse cart Another night another accident. A guy driving his Mercedes at midnight on his way home rammed into a horse cart on the Vakola flyover injuring the four occupants and the horses. One of the injured is critical and one horse is on the verge of death. The guy driving the car is a hoteliers son and my brother's classmate in the Hotel Management college. The car being driven was an E250D W124. The guy was also present with us on the first day of SpeedRun 2005. Read about it here Mid-day Linky Dippy
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17th June 2005, 11:13	#2
Gordon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,550 Thanked: 506 Times View My Garage	Read this article in the paper. The number of accidents are increasing by the day. The horses suffered a lot, because they were unattended for a long period of time. The passengers in the horse cart seem to be seriously injured. I pray for their recovery as soon as possible. Fast driving is illegal and rash. Most people would comment saying otherwise, but its the fact. The speed limit is made to avoid dangers of fast driving and the risks involved in it. When anyone crosses the speed limit no matter how good he is at it, it doesn't make a difference, its called rash and irresponsible behavior. The public roads are not meant for anyone's speed delights, they are meant for disciplined driving under the rules. Team-BHP follows rules and thus encourages every member to step off the gas and be within speed limits.
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17th June 2005, 12:08	#3
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,403 Thanked: 9,950 Times	mumbai is one dangerours place to drive; with no place for pedestrians, a mix of traffic that can range from ferraris to bullok carts and the poor condition of most taxis and rickshaws (seen one with working indicators or brake lights lately) and road repairs accidents of this sort are becoming all to common. add to this a healthy does of pothole and speedbreakers and indiscipline from motorists and pedestrians alike and incidents like this are the result. There are a lot of rules we have documented but few of these are implemnted regularly.
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17th June 2005, 13:15	#4
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 19 Times	This may seem insensitive, but what was a horsecart doing on a flyover in the middle of the night? Speeding is a crime, but going too slow is equally dangerous, and is a heavily fined offence abroad. This seems like a case where both parties are to blame...just unfortunate that people and animals have had to suffer so much.
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17th June 2005, 13:31	#5
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 701 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	It cant be blamed on the driver entirely. The same has happened to a friend once. He was travelling in his ambassdor on the NH 47. A bullock cart was going in front. He was momentarily blinded by the headlights of a bus coming in the opposite direction and failed to notice the cart in front. By the time he realised he had crashed. The point being it is all but impossible to notice a cart going in front when there is a powerful headlight falling on you from the other side of the road.
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17th June 2005, 14:49	#7
BuRnT RuBbEr BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: DL 1 Posts: 367 Thanked: 13 Times	if the driver can be blamed..so can the horse cart man be........what was he doing on a flyover at midnight??? ..... and maybe..that road might possibly be blocked for slow vehicles to enter and that horse cart should have been there in the first place...( i dont know anything about bombay roads..but here in delhi..some roads are prohibited to slow traffic...like carts, rikshaws etc.).... contemplate on how a person behind the wheels feels when pedestrians/bycycle riders/other slow stuff suddenly pop out of nowhere..how does he feel..i guess way more terrified than the people outside ..... when somthing comes in...u cant save yourself even if u r driving at 40.... Last edited by BuRnT RuBbEr : 17th June 2005 at 14:50.
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17th June 2005, 15:12	#8
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	i really feel sorry for the animal.its entirely not his fault at all he did what his master made him do without knowing the danger involved.and as gordon said the horses were not taken care of for a long time.and in this case i feel the horse cart guy is more at fault then the guy driving his mercedes.firstly the horse cart is not suppose to be on flyovers and im sure he was in the right most lane because as somebody mentioned before i dont think the mercedes would be going fast in the left lane. accidents are taking place almsot every night indifferent parts of the city so guys becareful and be aware.it could happen to any one.always wear your seatbelts and always observe the speed limit. drive safe !! Rev
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17th June 2005, 15:18	#9
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	The Merc driver is not totally at blame.
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17th June 2005, 15:33	#10
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,819 Thanked: 321,413 Times View My Garage	Why does everyone presume that a young guy driving a Mercedes involved in an accident had got to be speeding? GTO
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17th June 2005, 15:42	#12
shravan316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,029 Thanked: 10 Times	Really sad to hear about the accident. Its not entirely the Merc driver's fault. P.s:Isn't there a rule which says carts, tractors etc should stay away from highways etc at night??
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